Green/Mundine Show down under.

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 06 Feb 2006, 10:37

Interesting no one has brought up Sean Sullivan

Last year Mundine KO'ed Sullivan (iron chinned I many add)

Months earlier, Green struggled big time again Sean and due to his dehydration (cutting weight, too long of a warm-up, Perth heat) has hospitalized for many days. I actually thought Green was going to retire because that fight was so dangerous for him. The reports from The West were pretty serious

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 06 Feb 2006, 10:57

Pow!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/fotos/green_beyer.jpg

Got the Beyer cut in a magazine but can;t find it on the net. Was a brutal one though like Vitali's cut!

Good day mate!

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pundit · Post by **pundit** » 06 Feb 2006, 11:26

Max Molyneux wrote:Mundine sounds overated to me his biggest wins are over guys with Journymen records and best win is Echols.

.... who stretched Hopkins, floored Brewer, and has been durckduckducked by Calzahge for being too dangerous (as has Mundine himself).

Gary_V · Post by **Gary_V** » 06 Feb 2006, 16:51

Collins2000 wrote:
Gary_V wrote:I'm interested by Green's less than agressive-minded comments, given his previous animosity.

How do you read into that? Is it a ploy or has he lost his pssion for the job?

I agree that Green may have lost something by his courageous heart on sleeve attitude to fighting, proper fight or in a gym, no matter a la Vargas.

I was intrigued by Mundine's "blue-collar man" etc points. I've heard he's extremely unpopular, PARTICULARLY with those of aboriginal descent.

Green may be worn and Mundine may have the footwork/running scared style but Green is a tough fighter and Mundine has a weak jaw - Ottke and Siaca.

Also I think Green overtrained for feather-fisted Beyer and if his training is good he could ctach up with Mundine...
Whoever told you that was pulling your plonker.

Perhaps.

Explain how a sliver spoon athlete (taking on a carpenter by profession) who prefers running footwork to warrior brawlfare connects with the man on the street, be the Aboriginal descent or any colour for that matter?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 06 Feb 2006, 18:11

Gary_V wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:
Gary_V wrote:I'm interested by Green's less than agressive-minded comments, given his previous animosity.

How do you read into that? Is it a ploy or has he lost his pssion for the job?

I agree that Green may have lost something by his courageous heart on sleeve attitude to fighting, proper fight or in a gym, no matter a la Vargas.

I was intrigued by Mundine's "blue-collar man" etc points. I've heard he's extremely unpopular, PARTICULARLY with those of aboriginal descent.

Green may be worn and Mundine may have the footwork/running scared style but Green is a tough fighter and Mundine has a weak jaw - Ottke and Siaca.

Also I think Green overtrained for feather-fisted Beyer and if his training is good he could ctach up with Mundine...
Whoever told you that was pulling your plonker.

Perhaps.

Explain how a sliver spoon athlete (taking on a carpenter by profession) who prefers running footwork to warrior brawlfare connects with the man on the street, be the Aboriginal descent or any colour for that matter?

His Aboriginal and hes made it, they love him. I dont think Mundine grew up silver spoon, yes he made it in rugby first all the same.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 06 Feb 2006, 20:25

pundit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Mundine sounds overated to me his biggest wins are over guys with Journymen records and best win is Echols.
.... who stretched Hopkins, floored Brewer, and has been durckduckducked by Calzahge for being too dangerous (as has Mundine himself).

Yeah and Hop pulled out knowing Joe would own him.

Calzaghe would ktfo Mundine easy.

Calzaghe Vs Green is what I'd rather see.

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 07 Feb 2006, 00:03

Ben Keilty wrote:All the talk here is about Mundine, This is good for Green as he seems to fight better when he is the underdog.
All the reports are saying how quick Mundine is but this didn't help him Vs Kessler Siaca or Ottke. He is quick but dosn't like being put under pressure and jabbed which are 2 things Green does well.
The more i think about it i think Green BY 8-9 round KO.
Hopfully it dosn't get called off as im booking tickets to fly over and see it :P .

yeah ive noticed no-one here is giving Green a chance, even the great KT is picking mundie.
so youre going to the fight? what are the ticket prices like? cause me and a mate are looking to go, if not i dont mind watching it at my local.
at least the drinks will be cheaper

tcwilliams · Post by **tcwilliams** » 07 Feb 2006, 01:13

I will be getting on PPV on foxtel

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 07 Feb 2006, 03:31

thunderfromdownunder wrote:
Ben Keilty wrote:All the talk here is about Mundine, This is good for Green as he seems to fight better when he is the underdog.
All the reports are saying how quick Mundine is but this didn't help him Vs Kessler Siaca or Ottke. He is quick but dosn't like being put under pressure and jabbed which are 2 things Green does well.
The more i think about it i think Green BY 8-9 round KO.
Hopfully it dosn't get called off as im booking tickets to fly over and see it :P .
yeah ive noticed no-one here is giving Green a chance, even the great KT is picking mundie.
so youre going to the fight? what are the ticket prices like? cause me and a mate are looking to go, if not i dont mind watching it at my local.
at least the drinks will be cheaper

It will cost me about 1400 for flights Accomodation and tickets. They should have had it in Perth and it would have been a hell of a lot cheaper.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 07 Feb 2006, 03:32

Max Molyneux wrote:
pundit wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Mundine sounds overated to me his biggest wins are over guys with Journymen records and best win is Echols.
.... who stretched Hopkins, floored Brewer, and has been durckduckducked by Calzahge for being too dangerous (as has Mundine himself).
Yeah and Hop pulled out knowing Joe would own him.

Calzaghe would ktfo Mundine easy.

Calzaghe Vs Green is what I'd rather see.

It would be a good fight between Calzaghe and Green, I would pick Joe by UD but he may have a hard fight on his hands.

coneye · Post by **coneye** » 07 Feb 2006, 07:43

Joe would beat Mundine he has the speed , and you don't need a terrific dig to get over Mundine , he's a bit punch shy anyway , the guy runs so much cos he panics when the pressure is on.

Green on the other hand once again if he could box Joe should win but if Green was to catch up and drag Joe into the trenches , gotta say i'd favor Green in the get down and get dirty department.

Hard thing with Green is he was a very good boxer in the ameteurs , but under Fenech he left all his skills behind and became a brawler, if his new trainer can bring back the skills well who knows , i've a feeling he will be a different fighter altogether , wether or not his skills are world class level remains to be seen, But at least Green can go back to being an out and out agresion fighter if he chooses.

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 07 Feb 2006, 08:52

Is it just me or would this fight be more attractice at 175? I just feel that Danny is cutting too much weight.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 08 Feb 2006, 02:50

zojo, wrote:Is it just me or would this fight be more attractice at 175? I just feel that Danny is cutting too much weight.

I think Green has been cutting to much weight for years, He is big for a supermiddle and could easily carry his power up a division.

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 08 Feb 2006, 19:01

I agree Ben....

Win or lose, I am sure Danny can beat the majority of the top 15 contenders at 175.

Off topic...when does the Force start their season? I moved back to the US from Perth a few months ago and I am bummed I can't catch a match.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 09 Feb 2006, 06:36

I'd put my money on Green in this one. He's the real fighter and Mundine seems a bit of a fake. Can't imagine Mundine turning up at James Toney's gym for some short notice sparring.

Green to pulverise Mundine in 7 rounds.

Those heroes at Sky better show this, and not one week later either.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 09 Feb 2006, 22:29

Gary_V wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:
Gary_V wrote:I'm interested by Green's less than agressive-minded comments, given his previous animosity.

How do you read into that? Is it a ploy or has he lost his pssion for the job?

I agree that Green may have lost something by his courageous heart on sleeve attitude to fighting, proper fight or in a gym, no matter a la Vargas.

I was intrigued by Mundine's "blue-collar man" etc points. I've heard he's extremely unpopular, PARTICULARLY with those of aboriginal descent.

Green may be worn and Mundine may have the footwork/running scared style but Green is a tough fighter and Mundine has a weak jaw - Ottke and Siaca.

Also I think Green overtrained for feather-fisted Beyer and if his training is good he could ctach up with Mundine...
Whoever told you that was pulling your plonker.

Perhaps.

Explain how a sliver spoon athlete (taking on a carpenter by profession) who prefers running footwork to warrior brawlfare connects with the man on the street, be the Aboriginal descent or any colour for that matter?

You said you 'heard' he was disliked by people of aboriginal descent.

I said whoever told you that was playing with your todger, mate.

Stick to the subject of you being man-handled.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 10 Feb 2006, 06:24

zojo, wrote:I agree Ben....

Win or lose, I am sure Danny can beat the majority of the top 15 contenders at 175.

Off topic...when does the Force start their season? I moved back to the US from Perth a few months ago and I am bummed I can't catch a match.

They start in an hour i will put on the results in a few hours.

Gary_V · Post by **Gary_V** » 10 Feb 2006, 15:23

Collins2000 wrote:
Gary_V wrote:
Collins2000 wrote: Whoever told you that was pulling your plonker.

Perhaps.

Explain how a sliver spoon athlete (taking on a carpenter by profession) who prefers running footwork to warrior brawlfare connects with the man on the street, be the Aboriginal descent or any colour for that matter?
You said you 'heard' he was disliked by people of aboriginal descent.

I said whoever told you that was playing with your todger, mate.

Stick to the subject of you being man-handled.

This is going off topic from boxing. Let's bring a bit of clarity to the mist.

Mundine is not popular with many Aborginal men on the steet. His arrogance, silver-spoon lifestyle and scared/running style have not endeared him to everyone.

Unquestionably he is a popular man with others for making it to the top-10 and speaking his mind.

Finito.