keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury on his game beats AJ. If he sticks his chin out he'll get knocked out. The fight could go either way.
Fury's chin will be as back as far as the cheapest seats in the arena! Joshua isn't hitting it whatever he try's.
keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury on his game beats AJ. If he sticks his chin out he'll get knocked out. The fight could go either way.
Horse wrote:No way Joshua deserves to be above Klitschko, Wilder or Povetkin.cmdenny wrote:Happy for AJ. Real shame the IBF was stripped off Fury as makes it a bit empty. I was bouncing round room when Fury won it. This was a little of an anti climax compared to Fury's win, but still great to see.
Worth pointing out that a few fights ago people were saying AJ was only fighting can's (yeah I know Martin was no World Beater) but now he's just won a share of the WChampionship (albeit in unsatisfactory circumstances with IBF).
I have Heavies as:
1) Fury
2) AJ
3) Povetkin (could take out AJ, but the reach difference is significant).
4) Wilder
5) WK (retire at top after Fury fight either way)
NB - am not sure how to rate Ortiz as 37 now and fringe of being in WC mix.
Eddie Hearn's speech just now made me want to be sick in my mouth.
Joshua can just about sneak into the top 10, but that is about it.
Martin is not a proven fighter. Beating him does not show that Joshua is world class.
Fury beat Klitschko. Joshua beat Martin.gilgamesh wrote:You guys severely overrate Fury. He ain't sh*t and his reign ain't gonna last.
Wlad didn't fight. Fury's win there means very little to me.expe wrote:He went to Germany and outboxed Klitschko in his own backyard, if he "ain't poo", then either there isn't a heavyweight on the planet that's close to decent and hasn't been for 10 years, or you know eff all about boxing.gilgamesh wrote:You guys severely overrate Fury. He ain't sh*t and his reign ain't gonna last.Rexob wrote:
Joshua won't get the chance not skillfull enough!
Not saying he can't punch at all but for a guy of his size and weight he doesnt punch that hard. I think he should have stopped Klitschko if he did.Horse wrote:Fury could knock Joshua out.lefty wrote:I'd back Joshua against Fury I have to say. I've felt that for awhile though. My reasoning being that whilst Fury is definietly better in some areas ie Speed of foot and maybe hand speed, I feel that Fury lacks the power to really keep Joshua at bay and AJ would be willing to take more risks than Klitschko was to land his power shots. Just my personal take on it though.
Fury not being able to punch is a nonsense.
Use basic English and interpret it.Boxerbeetle wrote:Did I misinterpret your post? What did you mean then?
Fury does punch that hard for a man his size.lefty wrote:Not saying he can't punch at all but for a guy of his size and weight he doesnt punch that hard. I think he should have stopped Klitschko if he did.
Joshua, Klitschko, Ortiz, Haye, etc.Horse wrote:Fury does punch that hard for a man his size.lefty wrote:Not saying he can't punch at all but for a guy of his size and weight he doesnt punch that hard. I think he should have stopped Klitschko if he did.
Who has hit harder at his size?
Definitely the latter of the two options in my post then.gilgamesh wrote:Wlad didn't fight. Fury's win there means very little to me.expe wrote:He went to Germany and outboxed Klitschko in his own backyard, if he "ain't poo", then either there isn't a heavyweight on the planet that's close to decent and hasn't been for 10 years, or you know eff all about boxing.gilgamesh wrote:
You guys severely overrate Fury. He ain't sh*t and his reign ain't gonna last.
If he wins the rematch against a Wladimir that actually throws punches I'll be more impressed with him. But basically he was just the guy in the ring the night that Wlad decided to hand his title to somebody.
He might get it. Wouldn't be too hard for Joshua I don't figure. I don't really know why anybody would bother scheduling a big fight with David "I get injured checking the mail" HayeNeil Gee wrote:Haye desperately wants this fight.
Martin was the weakest world champion in boxing.reggaereggae wrote:![]()
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according to Ed Robinson, Joshua is the most impressive and quickest heavyweight champ ever.... Forget the fact that he won his title against a novice who won a title off a guy that twisted his knee, and that he won the world's weakest paper title ever which got stripped without good reason from Tyson Fury...
They're not his size.lefty wrote:Joshua, Klitschko, Ortiz, Haye, etc.
Yes.Horse wrote:Fury beat Klitschko. Joshua beat Martin.gilgamesh wrote:You guys severely overrate Fury. He ain't sh*t and his reign ain't gonna last.
Joshua ain't s**t.
Horse. Come on, be reasonable. Joshua punches hard, he has a chance against Fury, can you not see that he has a chance?Horse wrote:Fury beat Klitschko. Joshua beat Martin.gilgamesh wrote:You guys severely overrate Fury. He ain't sh*t and his reign ain't gonna last.
Joshua ain't s**t.
Don't act like you saw something I didn't. I know Boxing. I'm a die hard fan and have watched it for a long time. Nothing Fury did in that ring should've kept Wlad from fighting. There were times when Fury was wide open, hands down, begging to be hit, and Wlad just stood there staring at him.expe wrote:Definitely the latter of the two options in my post then.gilgamesh wrote:Wlad didn't fight. Fury's win there means very little to me.expe wrote: He went to Germany and outboxed Klitschko in his own backyard, if he "ain't poo", then either there isn't a heavyweight on the planet that's close to decent and hasn't been for 10 years, or you know eff all about boxing.
If he wins the rematch against a Wladimir that actually throws punches I'll be more impressed with him. But basically he was just the guy in the ring the night that Wlad decided to hand his title to somebody.
If you can't see or understand why Wlad was so inactive in that fight then I don't know really know what to say.
Oddly enough, I have a degree in English Literature so that is usually one of my strengths. But I can't fathom what you mean in this instance, other than naming Chisora and Cunningham as fighters on Fury's resume who would beat Joshua, which I do not feel is correct.Horse wrote:Use basic English and interpret it.Boxerbeetle wrote:Did I misinterpret your post? What did you mean then?
No he weighs more than them and is taller aswell.Horse wrote:They're not his size.lefty wrote:Joshua, Klitschko, Ortiz, Haye, etc.
Didn't you say Joshua can't punch very hard? Now you're saying Fury can punch.Horse wrote:Fury could knock Joshua out.lefty wrote:I'd back Joshua against Fury I have to say. I've felt that for awhile though. My reasoning being that whilst Fury is definietly better in some areas ie Speed of foot and maybe hand speed, I feel that Fury lacks the power to really keep Joshua at bay and AJ would be willing to take more risks than Klitschko was to land his power shots. Just my personal take on it though.
Fury not being able to punch is a nonsense.