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Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 06 Apr 2016, 10:11

jujigatame wrote:Who is gonna want to fight Khabib on 10 days notice? Maybe Cerrone would have been crazy enough but he's at 170 now with a fight against Cote coming up.

And that's crazy in and of itself. Donald has been a career LW and Cote a career MW who was known as one of the most powerful strikers in that division.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 06 Apr 2016, 10:32

The best semi-realistic options for a replacement are:

Michael Johnson
Rustam Khabilov
Adriano Martins
James Krause
Gleison Tibau
Nik Lentz
Leandro Silva

These are the best guys who don't have a fight scheduled and don't have some obvious compelling reason not to take the fight, beyond the fact that it's 10 days notice.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 07 Apr 2016, 15:57

They've got a replacement to fight Khabib. Some prospect I've never heard of, Darrell Horcher:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Darrell-Horcher-47899

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 07 Apr 2016, 17:09

Good for Khabib. At least he gets to get in there and do something.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 09 Apr 2016, 01:09

Tate v Nunes now on UFC 200, hardly the mind blowing co-main Dana promised.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 10 Apr 2016, 19:32

That card is amazing.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 11 Apr 2016, 10:30

It was great seeing JDS back to his old self last night. After that performance against Overeem I thought he might be completely shot. I'd be interested in seeing JDS/Hunt II at some point. I'll also take Nelson/Lewis in a battle of hard-hitting fat guys.

danamba7 · Post by **danamba7** » 12 Apr 2016, 04:53

What do you lot think about if Jon Jones ever moved up to HW? Reckon he could win the belt?

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 12 Apr 2016, 09:35

Yea I think he could. Although these legal issues have been terrible for his career. Lost a whole year of his prime. I have serious doubts he can keep it together to achieve anything close to his full potential.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 12 Apr 2016, 14:27

danamba7 wrote:What do you lot think about if Jon Jones ever moved up to HW? Reckon he could win the belt?

Hell yeah, I think Cormier could win that belt.

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 12 Apr 2016, 23:26

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
danamba7 wrote:What do you lot think about if Jon Jones ever moved up to HW? Reckon he could win the belt?
Hell yeah, I think Cormier could win that belt.

Cormier won the Strikeforce heavyweight tournament. I would not be surprised if he won the UFC heavyweight title.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 13 Apr 2016, 09:56

danamba7 wrote:What do you lot think about if Jon Jones ever moved up to HW? Reckon he could win the belt?

I don't think he could, he loses a few of the advantages if he moves up that he has at LHW mainly height and reach which he uses to cover up the holes in his striking and it helps a huge amount with his leverage in wrestling. I don't see him getting past Werdum/JDS/Velazquez/Miocic/Overeem/Browne/Arlovski or Hunt just off the top of my head.

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 13 Apr 2016, 10:42

Honestly I think he beats most of those guys very decisively. Only Cain and Werdum would be 50/50 fights. And Werdum is pushing 40 and won't be able to maintain this level much longer.

People forget Cormier was an elite HW and Jones handled him.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 14 Apr 2016, 00:07

jujigatame wrote:Honestly I think he beats most of those guys very decisively. Only Cain and Werdum would be 50/50 fights. And Werdum is pushing 40 and won't be able to maintain this level much longer.

People forget Cormier was an elite HW and Jones handled him.

Sure but I feel that Cormiers skill set and size is what helped Jones beat a guy who was an elite heavyweight. Most of the guys I mentioned are much bigger than Cormier and I believe that without his reach/leverage Jones wouldn't be elite. He would get caught in the striking by guys who are almost as long as him and I don't think his wrestling would be as effective. That in my opinion is why Gus was so successful against him.

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 16 Apr 2016, 03:52

Askren won again

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 17 Apr 2016, 17:29

Askren's situation is sad. UFC didn't want him, Bellator didn't want him, so he has to go to Asia and fight obscure no-hopers. I hope he's at least making decent money.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 17 Apr 2016, 18:27

p4p1 wrote:
danamba7 wrote:What do you lot think about if Jon Jones ever moved up to HW? Reckon he could win the belt?
I don't think he could, he loses a few of the advantages if he moves up that he has at LHW mainly height and reach which he uses to cover up the holes in his striking and it helps a huge amount with his leverage in wrestling. I don't see him getting past Werdum/JDS/Velazquez/Miocic/Overeem/Browne/Arlovski or Hunt just off the top of my head.

He wouldn't be giving up reach to any of them.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 18 Apr 2016, 04:48

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
danamba7 wrote:What do you lot think about if Jon Jones ever moved up to HW? Reckon he could win the belt?
I don't think he could, he loses a few of the advantages if he moves up that he has at LHW mainly height and reach which he uses to cover up the holes in his striking and it helps a huge amount with his leverage in wrestling. I don't see him getting past Werdum/JDS/Velazquez/Miocic/Overeem/Browne/Arlovski or Hunt just off the top of my head.
He wouldn't be giving up reach to any of them.

He still wouldn't have the same advantages. The reach advantage that he has wouldn't be enough to cover the holes in his striking.

danamba7 · Post by **danamba7** » 18 Apr 2016, 06:24

Poor Fox card. Khabib did what was expected and Rashad got caught early. Hopefully they can reschedule the Ferguson fight for Khabib, was really looking forward to that.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 18 Apr 2016, 08:27

It was too quick, I can't say Glover looked good or Rashad looked bad it was just feeling out then over. Glover does have some ridiculous power though.

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 18 Apr 2016, 10:55

p4p1 wrote:It was too quick, I can't say Glover looked good or Rashad looked bad it was just feeling out then over. Glover does have some ridiculous power though.

I hear ya. I was hoping for a good scrap. Rashad definitely went out though.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 18 Apr 2016, 16:11

p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote: I don't think he could, he loses a few of the advantages if he moves up that he has at LHW mainly height and reach which he uses to cover up the holes in his striking and it helps a huge amount with his leverage in wrestling. I don't see him getting past Werdum/JDS/Velazquez/Miocic/Overeem/Browne/Arlovski or Hunt just off the top of my head.
He wouldn't be giving up reach to any of them.
He still wouldn't have the same advantages. The reach advantage that he has wouldn't be enough to cover the holes in his striking.

I believe you're severely overestimating the skills in that division.

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 18 Apr 2016, 17:45

Had I been asked how Bones would fare at HW before he faced DC, I would have said he would be stepping up too much and lose to the top guys. However, after seeing how Jones handled DC, he would have a good chance @ the HW title. DC has fought some top HWs and none were able to even come close to taking him down and beating him the way Jones did. I'd take him over Werdum right now.

cletomex · Post by **cletomex** » 19 Apr 2016, 17:57

So Conor is retired?

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 20 Apr 2016, 00:06

Nope. He has been taken off the 200 card though over contract or promotional disputes or something along those lines.

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