All the GGG knockers

[ikorolev]

It all means nothing, after May 7th Canelo has a time frame to make a fight with Golovkin. If it hits a purse bid he can't enforce a catchweight. I think canelo drops the belt and they fight next year.

Yes, and by that time, Golovkin will be an undisputed MW champion better known to casual fans, so his split will be better than it would be this fall. He could even sacrifice a couple of pounds to get 50/50 split.

[ikorolev]

He just to fight a challenge. GGG has never fought a 50/50 fight his whole career.

Nobody at Middleweight is on an even playing field. He's too much better than them. The same can't be said for every other Middleweight.

Then that means he needs to challenged himself and moved up or down. No point of wasting prime against guys he clearly better than.

Really ? So, an outstanding sprinter should wait a second or so at the start to make it more challenging, and a tennis player should use non-dominant hand to play for the same reason ? Why would he give advantage to his opponents in the sport where health and even life are at stake ?

[gilgamesh]

He just to fight a challenge. GGG has never fought a 50/50 fight his whole career.

Nobody at Middleweight is on an even playing field. He's too much better than them. The same can't be said for every other Middleweight.

Then that means he needs to challenged himself and moved up or down. No point of wasting prime against guys he clearly better than.

Dominating a division is not wasting your prime.

[world ranked]

Nobody at Middleweight is on an even playing field. He's too much better than them. The same can't be said for every other Middleweight.

Then that means he needs to challenged himself and moved up or down. No point of wasting prime against guys he clearly better than.

Dominating a division is not wasting your prime.

Yes it is if you beating opposition that he's clearly better than. He needs to challenge himself.

[gilgamesh]

Then that means he needs to challenged himself and moved up or down. No point of wasting prime against guys he clearly better than.

Dominating a division is not wasting your prime.

Yeah if you beating that clearly better than. Challenge yourself

Marvin Hagler was a Middleweight his entire career, he was clearly better than all of his challengers through a lengthy reign. He never moved up because he was content being a dominant Middleweight Champion. That's good enough.

Everybody doesn't have to go up and down in weight. Guys do it, but they choose to. It's not something that should be demanded of them. Boxing is difficult enough as is.

[world ranked]

Dominating a division is not wasting your prime.

Yeah if you beating that clearly better than. Challenge yourself

Marvin Hagler was a Middleweight his entire career, he was clearly better than all of his challengers through a lengthy reign. He never moved up because he was content being a dominant Middleweight Champion. That's good enough.

Everybody doesn't have to go up and down in weight. Guys do it, but they choose to. It's not something that should be demanded of them. Boxing is difficult enough as is.

Different era and Hagler had guys who challenged him. He had to prove himself every fight with some competive opposition and fought great fighters GGG has done none of the above. Where is his Hearns or Leonard?

[ikorolev]

Dominating a division is not wasting your prime.

Yeah if you beating that clearly better than. Challenge yourself

Marvin Hagler was a Middleweight his entire career, he was clearly better than all of his challengers through a lengthy reign. He never moved up because he was content being a dominant Middleweight Champion. That's good enough.

Everybody doesn't have to go up and down in weight. Guys do it, but they choose to. It's not something that should be demanded of them. Boxing is difficult enough as is.

So was Carlos Monzon. Gennady hasn't even gotten all belts yet and is not a lineal champ. Some Canelo's fans think that Canelo is the man. Eubank Jr may be a threat in a year or two.

[world ranked]

Yeah if you beating that clearly better than. Challenge yourself

Marvin Hagler was a Middleweight his entire career, he was clearly better than all of his challengers through a lengthy reign. He never moved up because he was content being a dominant Middleweight Champion. That's good enough.

Everybody doesn't have to go up and down in weight. Guys do it, but they choose to. It's not something that should be demanded of them. Boxing is difficult enough as is.

So was Carlos Monzon. Gennady hasn't even gotten all belts yet and is not a lineal champ. Some Canelo's fans think that Canelo is the man. Eubank Jr may be a threat in a year or two.

There's are ATG who again had legitmate challenges in there middleweight runs, why are comparing ATG to GGG. Golovkin has been a middleweight threat for five years if his only goal is to unify well don't mention him as an elite fighter because he sure hasn't challenge himself to be elite

[dberry]

No fighter has totally terrified his division as GGG has - ALL the top name challengers for him have run away and ducked the oppty - Canelo cotto sergio quillin jacobs saunders and even floyd ran away from a fight with GGG at 154 - even prime Tyson did not scare away his top challengers like GGG is presently doing - actually prime margarito made a lot of top welters look in other directions - but margarito wasn't an A side marquee star like GGG is now - he was still a bit of a mysterious guy in the shadows and holding the nominal WBO belt - it's historic what GGG is doing now in terrorizing and paralyzying his division with fear - but ever since Floyd and Roy established handpicking as a mainstream career tactic widescale ducking like what we are seeing being done to GGG is becoming more prevalent -

1) What you call a duck probably isn't- we know for example that Jacobs wants lil g right now, and Saunders later this year.
And no, declining a fight with a guy 2 weight classes above you is not running away, especially if bigger money fights are
plentiful with several other fighters.

2) Tyson and 'Cheato actually fought elite guys, so yeah, they probably did give some folks pause legitimately. Lil g? Not so much.

3) Lil g is not an A-side marquee star...unless you call a guy that cant break 100K PPV buys marquee. Let's put lil g's PPV
performance in perspective. He had 97,000 buys. Contrast that with the farce that was BHop vs RJJ II which got
150,000 PPV buys and was considered a fiasco. How does an upcoming alleged A-side do much, much worse than a
battle of has beens no one wanted to see?

To conclude, there is nothing historic in what lil g is doing and if he never boxed again, he'd never have even a
snowball's chance in Hades of making it to Canestota.

I thought you were banned, Brut

[Ricky_]

He will move down to 154 and fight Charlos/Andrade/Vanes.

No he won't. He can't make 154. Why do you think he faced Kirkland Angulo and Lara at 155? Negotiating catchweights for 1 extra pound shows you how much he is killing himself getting down to the LightMiddleweight limit.

This 155 catchweight is for Khan's benefit. The maximum weight Khan has fought at is 147. Canelo would have a huge advantage vs Khan at 160.

After this fight he'll compete at 160, and Golovkin is the only name he can face.

Are you even serious ??? He can make 155, but not 154 ??? He fought at 155 and 154.5 to not bother with paying sanctioning fees.

He could make 154 but it kills him to get so low. When you drain that hard 1lb is a massive difference.

He was hitting over 170lb in the ring as a LMW. He's a big guy that's clearly outgrown 154 and from after this Khan fight will compete as a fully fledged MW.

[ikorolev]

I thought you were banned, Brut

WTF did you quote the moron. People put him on foes list to not see his delirium.

[Baby Face Finster]

Canelo is Triple G's red headed step child. The beating is guaranteed, only the time and place is yet to be determined.

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[dberry]

I thought you were banned, Brut

WTF did you quote the moron. People put him on foes list to not see his delirium.

Ah fornicate, I never normally quote him, I'll do just that, don't feed the Cancer and it'll die.

[dberry]

Canelo is Triple G's red headed step child. The beating is guaranteed, only the time and place is yet to be determined.

Be funny if it was in the crowd at the fights, after Canelo got mouthy.

[caldo2025]

GGG just signed with Nike becoming just the third boxer to sign with the powerhouse marketing machine at Nike. In the last year, GGG has added Apple and Nike to his endorsement contracts and has multiple commercials coming out. The world will keep knowing this marvel of sports and he'll inspire a wave of talent in boxing that we will see the effects the world over. We've never seen a boxer like GGG and never will. Best ever? Yeah, we are getting into that discussion soon.

[world ranked]

GGG just signed with Nike becoming just the third boxer to sign with the powerhouse marketing machine at Nike. In the last year, GGG has added Apple and Nike to his endorsement contracts and has multiple commercials coming out. The world will keep knowing this marvel of sports and he'll inspire a wave of talent in boxing that we will see the effects the world over. We've never seen a boxer like GGG and never will. Best ever? Yeah, we are getting into that discussion soon.

Best ever discussion He hasn't even fought a 50/50 fight every fight he's fought he suppose to win. He's a one division champ at 34 wtf

[Cygnus475]

Sheeeeiit, if ggg is tbe, I may as well quit my job and follow his formula for success. I'll do a thousand Pushups a day and knockout cab drivers till I have a huge inflated record and accuse all my competition of ducking me. Then I'll claim I'm the A side and watch my p4p ranking and marketing skyrocket. Genius!

[ikorolev]

Sheeeeiit, if ggg is tbe, I may as well quit my job and follow his formula for success. I'll do a thousand Pushups a day and knockout cab drivers till I have a huge inflated record and accuse all my competition of ducking me. Then I'll claim I'm the A side and watch my p4p ranking and marketing skyrocket. Genius!

Feel free to try to knock out "cab drivers" like Lemieux, Murray, Rubio, Stevens. Let's see what they do to you. I promise to come to your funeral.

[world ranked]

Sheeeeiit, if ggg is tbe, I may as well quit my job and follow his formula for success. I'll do a thousand Pushups a day and knockout cab drivers till I have a huge inflated record and accuse all my competition of ducking me. Then I'll claim I'm the A side and watch my p4p ranking and marketing skyrocket. Genius!

Feel free to try to knock out "cab drivers" like Lemieux, Murray, Rubio, Stevens. Let's see what they do to you. I promise to come to your funeral.

The exaggeration of GGG, Here's the greatest middleweight since Hagler or on his way to TBE, or he's fighting all bums. Where the middle ground?

[jas80s]

Sheeeeiit, if ggg is tbe, I may as well quit my job and follow his formula for success. I'll do a thousand Pushups a day and knockout cab drivers till I have a huge inflated record and accuse all my competition of ducking me. Then I'll claim I'm the A side and watch my p4p ranking and marketing skyrocket. Genius!

Feel free to try to knock out "cab drivers" like Lemieux, Murray, Rubio, Stevens. Let's see what they do to you. I promise to come to your funeral.

The exaggeration of GGG, Here's the greatest middleweight since Hagler or on his way to TBE, or he's fighting all bums. Where the middle ground?

So true, very little middle ground on an internet forum...

And this is nothing, you should hear people argue about the Golden State Warriors this year and great teams from the past..

[$$Money$$]

With all the GGG knockers on the boards saying he has fought no names, can you please explain to me why he should fight canelo at 155, if he really isn't that good then canelo should be able to beat him at 160, so where is the problem

I believe the problem lies in the sense that GGG says it's ok to fight Floyd at 154 for a money fight but it isn't ok to fight for a little less money with less risks facing Canelo at 155.

Add the above to the fact that it appears to be too much of a risk with little reward facing Ward at a CW for a fight and it comes off as either GGG/his team believes he is a Shot Caller or they may not be as confident in him as his fans appear to be.

Either way, he cannot have it his way and should capitulate to one of them for a fight that can surely bring him bigger money than he's ever made and PPV fame.

[Pureist]

Brut, kbb, 49&0 your back, that was quick, this is why no one takes a bet with you to leave the forum

[ikorolev]

With all the GGG knockers on the boards saying he has fought no names, can you please explain to me why he should fight canelo at 155, if he really isn't that good then canelo should be able to beat him at 160, so where is the problem

I believe the problem lies in the sense that GGG says it's ok to fight Floyd at 154 for a money fight but it isn't ok to fight for a little less money with less risks facing Canelo at 155.

Add the above to the fact that it appears to be too much of a risk with little reward facing Ward at a CW for a fight and it comes off as either GGG/his team believes he is a Shot Caller or they may not be as confident in him as his fans appear to be.

Either way, he cannot have it his way and should capitulate to one of them for a fight that can surely bring him bigger money than he's ever made and PPV fame.

The problem is that some fans including you can't logically think. Golovkin is a MW and wants to get all MW belts. Moving up or down is totally VOLUNTARY. So, yes, he will move up or down for a significant financial reward, and he has a right to decide whether to take a fight in a different weight class or not. Canelo fight is not a move to JMW. It is a MW unification fight, so it should be at a legal MW limit of 160.

[koolkc107]

With all the GGG knockers on the boards saying he has fought no names, can you please explain to me why he should fight canelo at 155, if he really isn't that good then canelo should be able to beat him at 160, so where is the problem

I believe the problem lies in the sense that GGG says it's ok to fight Floyd at 154 for a money fight but it isn't ok to fight for a little less money with less risks facing Canelo at 155.

Add the above to the fact that it appears to be too much of a risk with little reward facing Ward at a CW for a fight and it comes off as either GGG/his team believes he is a Shot Caller or they may not be as confident in him as his fans appear to be.

Either way, he cannot have it his way and should capitulate to one of them for a fight that can surely bring him bigger money than he's ever made and PPV fame.

The problem is that some fans including you can't logically think. Golovkin is a MW and wants to get all MW belts. Moving up or down is totally VOLUNTARY. So, yes, he will move up or down for a significant financial reward, and he has a right to decide whether to take a fight in a different weight class or not. Canelo fight is not a move to JMW. It is a MW unification fight, so it should be at a legal MW limit of 160.

Why is it voluntary when lil g wants to do it, but not voluntary when lil g wants someone else to do it?

And isn't this the guy that used to brag about "anyone in 4 weight classes"? What happened to all THAT talk?

155 is within the middleweight weight class.

Catchweights have been done with the middleweight belt on the line before.

I think Canelo has very strong arguments.