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[computerrank]

and when will be the next to respond the the rating all time ???

... after YOU have found all the undetected errors ... - and told me ...

[mike1989]

and when will be the next to respond the the rating all time ???

... after YOU have found all the undetected errors ... - and told me ...

)))... OK

[mike1989]

so the standings of the top 10 or top 20 for a fighter ???

[computerrank]

so the standings of the top 10 or top 20 for a fighter ???

I updated with the top 20 now - same links:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt

[mike1989]

I have Floyd Mayweather came out with 1,759 points : 1808 ramaty boxrec - 44 point 2009 for Marquez +22 and not +he 66 in the cluster No. 3 after Mosley and Pacquiao ; 2014 -5 points Maidan No. 4 after Pacquiao, Mayweather and Marquez, ie not the +22 and +17 for the Maidan ???

[computerrank]

I have Floyd Mayweather came out with 1,759 points : 1808 ramaty boxrec - 44 point 2009 for Marquez +22 and not +he 66 in the cluster No. 3 after Mosley and Pacquiao ; 2014 -5 points Maidan No. 4 after Pacquiao, Mayweather and Marquez, ie not the +22 and +17 for the Maidan ???

2009: Mayweather was #3 at welterweight cluster, which gets him 22 points
2009: Marquez was #1 at lightweight cluster - which should better be converted to the welterweight cluster, I think ...

2014: Maidana was #4 at welterweight cluster, which gets Mayweather 22 points

[mike1989]

I have Floyd Mayweather came out with 1,759 points : 1808 ramaty boxrec - 44 point 2009 for Marquez +22 and not +he 66 in the cluster No. 3 after Mosley and Pacquiao ; 2014 -5 points Maidan No. 4 after Pacquiao, Mayweather and Marquez, ie not the +22 and +17 for the Maidan ???

2009: Mayweather was #3 at welterweight cluster, which gets him 22 points
2009: Marquez was #1 at lightweight cluster - which should better be converted to the welterweight cluster, I think ...

2014: Maidana was #4 at welterweight cluster, which gets Mayweather 22 points

2009 : the fight was at Welterweight way Welterweight light but not Lightweight but it is one cluster because Marquez # 3 and +22 to Mayweather and not 66. ??? http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1429058
2014 : Maidan № 4 it means according to the formula 200/4*0,33 = 17 points to Mayweather and not +22 point for the Maidan. ???

[computerrank]

2009 : the fight was at Welterweight way Welterweight light but not Lightweight but it is one cluster because Marquez # 3 and +22 to Mayweather and not 66. ??? http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1429058
2014 : Maidan № 4 it means according to the formula 200/4*0,33 = 17 points to Mayweather and not +22 point for the Maidan. ???

2009: I will change the program and test. Marquez #3 at welterweight would get Mayweather + 33 points = 200/(#3-1)*0.33 - it is for opponent rank ...
2014: Maidana #4 adds 22 point to Mayweather - 200/(#4-1)*0.33 - it is for opponent rank ...

[mike1989]

2009: I will change the program and test. Marquez #3 at welterweight would get Mayweather + 33 points = 200/(#3-1)*0.33 - it is for opponent rank ...
2014: Maidana #4 adds 22 point to Mayweather - 200/(#4-1)*0.33 - it is for opponent rank ...

okay )...

[crusader]

Khan #3 at 160

[mike1989]

2009: I will change the program and test. Marquez #3 at welterweight would get Mayweather + 33 points = 200/(#3-1)*0.33 - it is for opponent rank ...
2014: Maidana #4 adds 22 point to Mayweather - 200/(#4-1)*0.33 - it is for opponent rank ...

if given such a formulation then Wladimir Klitschko for another +30 points :
2000 Baird (4-1=3=22 point) +9 points;
2002 Jamil maclin (6-1=5=13) +point 5;
2007 Brewster (6-1=5=13) +6 point;
2008 Ibragimov (5-1=4=16) + point 5 ;
2010 Eddie chambers (6-1=5=13) +5 point,
for a total of 1191+30= 1221 point.????

[computerrank]

if given such a formulation then Wladimir Klitschko for another +30 points :
2000 Baird (4-1=3=22 point) +9 points;
2002 Jamil maclin (6-1=5=13) +point 5;
2007 Brewster (6-1=5=13) +6 point;
2008 Ibragimov (5-1=4=16) + point 5 ;
2010 Eddie chambers (6-1=5=13) +5 point,
for a total of 1191+30= 1221 point.????

2000 Baird (4-1=3=22 point) +9 points; - Byrd was #6
2002 Jamil maclin (6-1=5=13) +point 5; - McCline was #9
2007 Brewster (6-1=5=13) +6 point; - Brewster was #10
2008 Ibragimov (5-1=4=16) + point 5 ; Ibragimov was #7
2010 Eddie chambers (6-1=5=13) +5 point, - Chambers was #9

look here

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt

[crusader]

Khan #3 at 160

And Canelo jumps over 100 points for beating him....that doesn't seem right. Maybe a fighter should drop more points when they move up two divisions?

[computerrank]

Khan #3 at 160

And Canelo jumps over 100 points for beating him....that doesn't seem right. Maybe a fighter should drop more points when they move up two divisions?

Khan boxed just 8 lbs above his regular weight weight - his rating was reduced by 100 points before the bout. I don't see a problem here.

[crusader]

A two division jump from 147 is pretty big, especially for a guy who wasn't a particularly large WW and already came up a few divisions. Khan had absolutely no business being #3 at MW (though perhaps the issue is more about him having too many points to start with rather than not losing enough) and Canelo has no business gaining 100+ points for beating him.

But that's just me nit-picking.

[computerrank]

A two division jump from 147 is pretty big, especially for a guy who wasn't a particularly large WW. Khan had absolutely no business being #3 at MW (though perhaps the issue is more about him having too many points to start with rather than not losing enough) and Canelo has no business gaining 100+ points for beating him.

But that's just me nit-picking.

... I would prefer to see Alvarez - Golovkin ... but it is to the promoters - prize-boxing ...

[mike1989]

if given such a formulation then Wladimir Klitschko for another +30 points :

2000 Baird (4-1=3=22 point) +9 points; - Byrd was #6

look here

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt

Chris Byrd at the time of his fight with Klitschko in 2000 the cluster was the fourth . I bring :
Annual Ratings for 1999 :
Heavyweight 1999 648 Lennox Lewis
Heavyweight 1999 407 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight 1999 405 Michael Grant
Heavyweight 1999 381 Henry Akinwande
Heavyweight 1999 355 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight 1999 255 Ike Ibeabuchi
Heavyweight 1999 253 David Tua
Heavyweight 1999 253 Larry Donald
Heavyweight 1999 250 Orlin Norris
Heavyweight 1999 245 Oleg Maskaev
here Chris Byrd would be No. 6
Annual Ratings for 2000 :
Heavyweight 2000 786 Lennox Lewis
Heavyweight 2000 404 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight 2000 383 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight 2000 297 Michael Grant
Heavyweight 2000 265 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight 2000 264 Mike Tyson
Heavyweight 2000 242 Andrew Golota
Heavyweight 2000 240 David Izon
Heavyweight 2000 228 Brian Nielsen
Heavyweight 2000 225 Kirk Johnson
here Chris Byrd would be No. 4: dropped Michael Grand and Henry Akinwande ( for a brush of the lack of competitive opponent somewhere lowering points 07-08 months of 2000), Vitali Klitschko sootvetstvenno lost to Byrd in the cruisers best was Juan Carlos Gomez 431 point * 0,694= 299 points from the cluster.
because No. 4 (4-1=3=22 point) ???? )

[JCS]

A two division jump from 147 is pretty big, especially for a guy who wasn't a particularly large WW and already came up a few divisions. Khan had absolutely no business being #3 at MW (though perhaps the issue is more about him having too many points to start with rather than not losing enough) and Canelo has no business gaining 100+ points for beating him.

But that's just me nit-picking.

Not sure what the timing was, but it is possible he got placed at Middleweight before the outcome AND division change were both calculated.

If he got shifted now, I believe he'd be #5 MW. Still a bit high, but better.

[computerrank]

Chris Byrd at the time of his fight with Klitschko in 2000 the cluster was the fourth . I bring :
Annual Ratings for 1999 :
Heavyweight 1999 648 Lennox Lewis
Heavyweight 1999 407 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight 1999 405 Michael Grant
Heavyweight 1999 381 Henry Akinwande
Heavyweight 1999 355 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight 1999 255 Ike Ibeabuchi
Heavyweight 1999 253 David Tua
Heavyweight 1999 253 Larry Donald
Heavyweight 1999 250 Orlin Norris
Heavyweight 1999 245 Oleg Maskaev
here Chris Byrd would be No. 6
Annual Ratings for 2000 :
Heavyweight 2000 786 Lennox Lewis
Heavyweight 2000 404 Wladimir Klitschko
Heavyweight 2000 383 Evander Holyfield
Heavyweight 2000 297 Michael Grant
Heavyweight 2000 265 Vitali Klitschko
Heavyweight 2000 264 Mike Tyson
Heavyweight 2000 242 Andrew Golota
Heavyweight 2000 240 David Izon
Heavyweight 2000 228 Brian Nielsen
Heavyweight 2000 225 Kirk Johnson
here Chris Byrd would be No. 4: dropped Michael Grand and Henry Akinwande ( for a brush of the lack of competitive opponent somewhere lowering points 07-08 months of 2000), Vitali Klitschko sootvetstvenno lost to Byrd in the cruisers best was Juan Carlos Gomez 431 point * 0,694= 299 points from the cluster.
because No. 4 (4-1=3=22 point) ???? )

Yes, there is another problem with the weight conversion ...

[mike1989]

here Chris Byrd would be No. 4: dropped Michael Grand and Henry Akinwande ( for a brush of the lack of competitive opponent somewhere lowering points 07-08 months of 2000), Vitali Klitschko sootvetstvenno lost to Byrd in the cruisers best was Juan Carlos Gomez 431 point * 0,694= 299 points from the cluster.
because No. 4 (4-1=3=22 point) ???? )

Yes, there is another problem with the weight conversion ...

same with these :
2002 Jamil maclin (6-1=5=13) +point 5; - McCline was #9
2007 Brewster (6-1=5=13) +6 point; - Brewster was #10
2008 Ibragimov (5-1=4=16) + point 5 ; Ibragimov was #7
2010 Eddie chambers (6-1=5=13) +5 point, - Chambers was #9
??????????????????????? )

[mike1989]

Roy Jones Junior :
the actual figures in 1128 point
; 2001: +4 points for Julio Cesar Gonzalez he in cluster №16-17;
2003: -33 point over Antonio Tarver he at the time of fight No. 3 above Roy Jones Jr. and Calzaghe ????
the result : 1128 +4-33= 1099 point ???

[computerrank]

same with these :
2002 Jamil maclin (6-1=5=13) +point 5; - McCline was #9
2007 Brewster (6-1=5=13) +6 point; - Brewster was #10
2008 Ibragimov (5-1=4=16) + point 5 ; Ibragimov was #7
2010 Eddie chambers (6-1=5=13) +5 point, - Chambers was #9
??????????????????????? )

2002 McCline was #7 nearly ...

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 761               Lennox                Lewis
 380                David                  Tua
 371              Evander            Holyfield
 356             Wladimir            Klitschko
 341                 John                 Ruiz
 332                Chris                 Byrd
 311               Jameel              McCline

2007 Brewster was #7 nearly ...

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 572             Wladimir            Klitschko
 441               Samuel                Peter
 413               Ruslan              Chagaev
 394                 Oleg              Maskaev
 359              Nikolay               Valuev
 306               Sultan            Ibragimov
 286                Lamon             Brewster

2008 Ibragimov was #5

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 644             Wladimir            Klitschko
 499               Ruslan              Chagaev
 425              Nikolay               Valuev
 423               Samuel                Peter
 328               Sultan            Ibragimov

2010 Chambers was #7 nearly ...

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 869             Wladimir            Klitschko
 561               Vitali            Klitschko
 460                David                 Haye
 357               Ruslan              Chagaev
 343              Nikolay               Valuev
 340               Tomasz               Adamek
 315                Eddie             Chambers

[mike1989]

Juan Manuel Marquez : your figures in 1190 point. the oshybki not founded ) ...

[mike1989]

same with these :
2002 Jamil maclin (6-1=5=13) +point 5; - McCline was #9
2007 Brewster (6-1=5=13) +6 point; - Brewster was #10
2008 Ibragimov (5-1=4=16) + point 5 ; Ibragimov was #7
2010 Eddie chambers (6-1=5=13) +5 point, - Chambers was #9
??????????????????????? )

2002 McCline was #7 nearly ...

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 761               Lennox                Lewis
 380                David                  Tua
 371              Evander            Holyfield
 356             Wladimir            Klitschko
 341                 John                 Ruiz
 332                Chris                 Byrd
 311               Jameel              McCline

2007 Brewster was #7 nearly ...

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 572             Wladimir            Klitschko
 441               Samuel                Peter
 413               Ruslan              Chagaev
 394                 Oleg              Maskaev
 359              Nikolay               Valuev
 306               Sultan            Ibragimov
 286                Lamon             Brewster

2008 Ibragimov was #5

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 644             Wladimir            Klitschko
 499               Ruslan              Chagaev
 425              Nikolay               Valuev
 423               Samuel                Peter
 328               Sultan            Ibragimov

2010 Chambers was #7 nearly ...

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 869             Wladimir            Klitschko
 561               Vitali            Klitschko
 460                David                 Haye
 357               Ruslan              Chagaev
 343              Nikolay               Valuev
 340               Tomasz               Adamek
 315                Eddie             Chambers

... Yes, what now obtained the rating of Vladimir Klitschko of all-time ??? )

[computerrank]

... Yes, what now obtained the rating of Vladimir Klitschko of all-time ??? )

This is the current situation:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... eavies.pdf