Ovil McKenzie

[JimJim2009]

Next scheduled pull out will probably be the Liam smith wbo title defence show. No opponent for Liam and Eddie is running a rival show. These things can lead to injuries and pull outs.

Tete's opponent for this show - Zhanat Zhakiyanov - has pulled out. It was the co-feature - for an interim WBA title. Not looking too cracky for the show, given eddie is running a mega show in Liverpool a week earlier. Still no word on Liam's opponent ? I guess it won't be Cotto....

a mega show? Really? It might be outdoors but have your seen how its set up not much more than the echo capacity wise I'd imagine. While the Bellew fight is a good one I'd hardly call it a mega show.

W@rren announced Paul Butler in a WBO final eliminator yesterday as chief support to Liam Smith's defense.

I possibly got a touch of the eddies when I said 'mega' - but the point i was making is that in comparison, there is a country mile between the shows. Setting aside tickets sold by fighters on the bill, I doubt if a typical fwank show like this one will sell more than a few dozen tickets to casual fans. Fwank has had the date for a long time and there is still no opponent for Liam. I expect the show will be postponed. Hope I am wrong. It surely can't take more than an hour to check the wbo rankings and contact the available challengers to say do you want a crack, it's x amount of money, it's in Liverpool and it's 4th June. That honestly cannot take more than one hour to do. I know it would take longer for responses, and probably weeks of negotiations and bartering, but the date of the show was set a long time ago and it seems strange there is still no opponent. However many tickets have been sold so far, I doubt they will sell any more now that the Goodison outdoor event is up and running.

[ste1983]

Tete's opponent for this show - Zhanat Zhakiyanov - has pulled out. It was the co-feature - for an interim WBA title. Not looking too cracky for the show, given eddie is running a mega show in Liverpool a week earlier. Still no word on Liam's opponent ? I guess it won't be Cotto....

a mega show? Really? It might be outdoors but have your seen how its set up not much more than the echo capacity wise I'd imagine. While the Bellew fight is a good one I'd hardly call it a mega show.

W@rren announced Paul Butler in a WBO final eliminator yesterday as chief support to Liam Smith's defense.

I possibly got a touch of the eddies when I said 'mega' - but the point i was making is that in comparison, there is a country mile between the shows. Setting aside tickets sold by fighters on the bill, I doubt if a typical fwank show like this one will sell more than a few dozen tickets to casual fans. Fwank has had the date for a long time and there is still no opponent for Liam. I expect the show will be postponed. Hope I am wrong. It surely can't take more than an hour to check the wbo rankings and contact the available challengers to say do you want a crack, it's x amount of money, it's in Liverpool and it's 4th June. That honestly cannot take more than one hour to do. I know it would take longer for responses, and probably weeks of negotiations and bartering, but the date of the show was set a long time ago and it seems strange there is still no opponent. However many tickets have been sold so far, I doubt they will sell any more now that the Goodison outdoor event is up and running.

Well I'm thinking of going (and I'm not going Goodison) so they might sell a couple more.

Think you have a point fans wise (lot of casuals will jump at the goodison thing) but over the whole card wise its far from a country mile behind Eddies, in fact I'd probably say W@rrens edges it at quality fights at the minute. Matchrooms has got what the main event and a few people names in walkovers like Price and Stephen Smith.

[expe]

Next scheduled pull out will probably be the Liam smith wbo title defence show. No opponent for Liam and Eddie is running a rival show. These things can lead to injuries and pull outs.

Tete's opponent for this show - Zhanat Zhakiyanov - has pulled out. It was the co-feature - for an interim WBA title. Not looking too cracky for the show, given eddie is running a mega show in Liverpool a week earlier. Still no word on Liam's opponent ? I guess it won't be Cotto....

Dis Zhanat actually sign for that? I had heard rumours but nothing concrete.

Was reported with quotes from Tete's manager but nothing from Warren and was never announced, when the show was announced everything had him down as defending his IBF trinket with no mention of Zhakiyanov.

Smith's opponent is being announced at a press conference on Monday, Dennis Hogan has been rumoured and he entered the WBO rankings a few weeks ago so I'm expecting it to be him.

[Stuarty]

Tete's opponent for this show - Zhanat Zhakiyanov - has pulled out. It was the co-feature - for an interim WBA title. Not looking too cracky for the show, given eddie is running a mega show in Liverpool a week earlier. Still no word on Liam's opponent ? I guess it won't be Cotto....

Dis Zhanat actually sign for that? I had heard rumours but nothing concrete.

Was reported with quotes from Tete's manager but nothing from Warren and was never announced, when the show was announced everything had him down as defending his IBF trinket with no mention of Zhakiyanov.

Smith's opponent is being announced at a press conference on Monday, Dennis Hogan has been rumoured and he entered the WBO rankings a few weeks ago so I'm expecting it to be him.

Hopefully it's not. Another stinker of a defence.

[expe]

Next scheduled pull out will probably be the Liam smith wbo title defence show. No opponent for Liam and Eddie is running a rival show. These things can lead to injuries and pull outs.

Tete's opponent for this show - Zhanat Zhakiyanov - has pulled out. It was the co-feature - for an interim WBA title. Not looking too cracky for the show, given eddie is running a mega show in Liverpool a week earlier. Still no word on Liam's opponent ? I guess it won't be Cotto....

a mega show? Really? It might be outdoors but have your seen how its set up not much more than the echo capacity wise I'd imagine. While the Bellew fight is a good one I'd hardly call it a mega show.

W@rren announced Paul Butler in a WBO final eliminator yesterday as chief support to Liam Smith's defense.

So far all they've opened up at Goodison is the lower tier of the Gwladys Street End, looks like they're going to open up more depending on the demand, that isn't too far from selling out but the whole stand holds 10.5k so they've probably only set it up for 10k at best right now with the option to increase that if needed.

[crusader]

Dennis Hogan? Great! Assuming it's him it will be another Smith challenger I'd never heard of until they were mentioned as a Beefy opponent. Looks like Hogan really earned his shot with that wide loss to Culcay two fights ago and all those great wins of his.

Considering Smith's excellent title win over John 'ESPN' Thompson and his subsequent defense against Kelly, he should be close to cracking the P4P ranks if he gets through the Hogan test.

[JimJim2009]

Lol at hogan. Bursak for BJS and no-hoper after no-hoper for Liam but fwank gives Eddie grief for matching his fighters with soft touches.

[crusader]

Is there a current champ whose first three world title fights came against weaker opposition?

And I know some people have said 'oh I don't view Smith as a champion and so this fight is okay for where he's at', but guys like Kelly and Hogan aren't good opponents at all even if you separate Smith from his plastic belt. It's a shame the Soro fight fell through because that was an intriguing, 50/50ish match-up and the Frenchman would've clearly been Smith's best opponent.

[JimJim2009]

Is there a current champ whose first three world title fights came against weaker opposition?

And I know some people have said 'oh I don't view Smith as a champion and so this fight is okay for where he's at', but guys like Kelly and Hogan aren't good opponents at all even if you separate Smith from his plastic belt. It's a shame the Soro fight fell through because that was an intriguing, 50/50ish match-up and the Frenchman would've clearly been Smith's best opponent.

I can't think of one. The gap between inter-continental standards and 'world title' standards shortens with fights like this.

[ste1983]

McKenzie v Kucher fight now rescheduled for June 10th York Hall.

Undercard to feature Mitchell Smith, Tom Baker, Ahmet Patterson and Anthony Yarde.

[Stuarty]

McKenzie v Kucher fight now rescheduled for June 10th York Hall.

Undercard to feature Mitchell Smith, Tom Baker, Ahmet Patterson and Anthony Yarde.

Is Patterson not fighting Williams anymore?

[expe]

McKenzie v Kucher fight now rescheduled for June 10th York Hall.

Undercard to feature Mitchell Smith, Tom Baker, Ahmet Patterson and Anthony Yarde.

Is Patterson not fighting Williams anymore?

Warm up for that fight, Williams is out June 4th in Liverpool in an 8 rounder, think they might do it in Wales in July.

[Stuarty]

McKenzie v Kucher fight now rescheduled for June 10th York Hall.

Undercard to feature Mitchell Smith, Tom Baker, Ahmet Patterson and Anthony Yarde.

Is Patterson not fighting Williams anymore?

Warm up for that fight, Williams is out June 4th in Liverpool in an 8 rounder, think they might do it in Wales in July.

That's good then. Really hope that one happens. A real pick em fight. Williams for me in a back n forward tussle.

[PredatorHayds]

McKenzie v Kucher fight now rescheduled for June 10th York Hall.

Undercard to feature Mitchell Smith, Tom Baker, Ahmet Patterson and Anthony Yarde.

Is Patterson not fighting Williams anymore?

Warm up for that fight, Williams is out June 4th in Liverpool in an 8 rounder, think they might do it in Wales in July.

Any rumour on where about in Wales?

[expe]

Is Patterson not fighting Williams anymore?

Warm up for that fight, Williams is out June 4th in Liverpool in an 8 rounder, think they might do it in Wales in July.

That's good then. Really hope that one happens. A real pick em fight. Williams for me in a back n forward tussle.

Cardiff probably, seen Williams mentioning that new Ice Arena on twitter, there was talk of it or the Corcoran fight next in Wales before the Mansouri fight fell through. Both of them fighting early June in warm ups does suggest that it'll be in Wales, nothing stopping it from happening on either the Liverpool or York Hall shows otherwise.