Let's Hear Your Nominations For Greatest Wins Ever

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Strictly by the division it has to be Benitez winning the title at 17. Though Armstrong had a lot of fights under 140 fighting Welterweights.
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Honourable mention for cervantes-locche? And, ummm. Phillips over KT seems a decent call for an HM. And, ummm.
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:verysad: Taylor over Chavez should be the answer.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote::verysad: Taylor over Chavez should be the answer.
Yeah that'll always be a damn shame that Taylor didn't get his W in that fight. One would always wonder if he would've fought on too long and ended up as damaged as he is without losing that fight too.
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Tony Canzoneri KO3 over Jack Kid Berg. That is hard to top. It was for both the lightweight and jr welterweight title.
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Both guys weighed under 135 for that fight though. Great win for 135 :TU:
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The 3 best wins at 140lbs ever should be:
Aaron Pryor WTKO14 Alexis Arguello (I)
Wilfred Benitez W15 Antonio Cervantes
Julio Cesar Chavez WTKO12 Meldrick Taylor (I)

These are three monumental wins at this weight class.
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No Alfonso Frazer beating Locche by wide decision :OhYes:
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Within the limit, another outstanding performance was
Henry Armstrong TKO 9 Pedro Montanez (1940)
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Douglas KO of Tyson was the best upset... Douglas dominated - but two corrupt judges had Tyson ahead going into the 10th and final round.

Gene Tunney easily beating Jack Dempsey was the biggest EVENT because so many people attended and paid so much money; more than any fight ever before and for the next 44 years... Dempsey's charisma and popularity was amazing.

Leon Spinks was the most inexperienced Heavyweight Champ - record: 6-0-1. Ali cherry-picked Leon to avoid Larry Holmes who was a killer.

Michael Bentt was the most unlikely Heavyweight Camp. He had only 11 fights with a KO loss. Tommy Morrison cherry-picked him for God knows what reason and got knocked out... Bentt lost his first Title Defense to the less than dangerous Herbie Hide - who almost literally killed Bentt.

Jack Johnson beating Jim Jeffries in 1910 in front of a massive audience of white people was interesting.. Johnson was fearless.. In response to Johnson winning Congress passed legislation banning the interstate transport of fight films. It significantly affected the income of many pugilists because the law wasn't repealed until 1939 when it was declared unconstitutional. It took 29 years to figure that out, and you think politics is nuts today.
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For game plans... Ray Leonard vs Wilfredo Benitez was great... Leonard was 24-0 and Benitez 39-0... Leonard knew Benitez had a wide stance and fought a bit off his front foot - and tried to slip everything and counter.. His strategy was nailing Benitez straight down the pipe with mostly jabs and a few straight rights - and following up with combinations.. It worked to perfection.. He floored Benitez with a jab and stayed with it.. Benitez hit Leonard with a significant number of counter-punches but took more punishment in return.. Ray stopped him late in the 15th.

Mike Weaver wanted John Tate to expend himself completely throwing a ton of punches... Weaver planned to save his energy and attack late when Tate was exhausted... Weaver took a terrific pounding but wrecked Tate with a left hook with less than a minute to go in the 15th.

On a hot night the cagy Jack Kearns wanted Joey Maxim to goad Sugar Ray Robinson into throwing a ton of punches and running out his gas tank... Maxim kept telling Robinson "you're not breaking popcorn Ray - can't you punch?" Robinson tried to hurt the bigger man and exhausted himself.. He barely made it back to his corner after the 13th and quit in his corner.
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Seamus wrote:Both guys weighed under 135 for that fight though. Great win for 135 :TU:
I was counting it as both weight classes! :D

How about Meldrick Taylor TKO 12 over Buddy McGirt?
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Forgot this one at 140

Sammy Angott TKO 6 Ike Williams (1945)
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Lightweight

For starters

Henry Armstrong W15 Barney Ross (1938) Armstrong comes in at 133 and a half and diahes out a one sided beating to alltime great Barney Ross for the Welterweight title. I list on the basis of the winner's weight.
Tony Canzoneri KO 2 Kid Chocolate (1933)
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I forgot to mention Whitaker over Vasquez at 154.

Dejesus over Duran
Fernandez over Arguello

That's two from my era at 35.
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yancey wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:Foreman annihilating Frazier. What a warrior! He went out on his shield. :clap:
I'm not amazed when a guy lasts 2 rounds... If he went 15 like Bonavena vs Frazier that would be different... Frazier was bounced around like a basketball and looked like a punching bag with ears. People forget that Foreman was a 4/1 underdog. He fought like a 100/1 favorite.
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Kalan wrote:
yancey wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:Foreman annihilating Frazier. What a warrior! He went out on his shield. :clap:
I'm not amazed when a guy lasts 2 rounds... If he went 15 like Bonavena vs Frazier that would be different... Frazier was bounced around like a basketball and looked like a punching bag with ears. People forget that Foreman was a 4/1 underdog. He fought like a 100/1 favorite.

True.

In fact, all I said was "Foreman annihilating Frazier.".

The rest of 'my' quote was part of a quote by Yancey I think; not sure how it got merged together...
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Giancarlo wrote:Foreman annihilating Frazier.

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This was all I posted.
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Missed this one at 147.

Barbados Joe Walcott (147) TKO 7 Joe Choynski (163) 1900 A year later Choynski knocked out Jack Johnson.
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I've got to give a shout out for Holyfield over Tyson. Massive win, considering how bad he looked against Czyz, Moorer and Bowe 3 etc. He wasn't given a chance
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Junior Lightweight

Azumah Nelson TKO 8 Jeff Fenech (1992) Winner ?
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Pacquiao over Marquez (2)
Mayweather - Corrales

Ummmm
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What am I on about, ummm, duh:

Morales over Pacquiao trumps them all I would think.
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okay well a couple more, not the greatest but Arguello - Escalera is always worth a mention
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