Anthony Crolla vs Ismael Barroso and undercard. RBR.

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wesshaw1985 wrote:
Supremo wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:a lot of Sky Sports talk of Crolla being no.1 lightweight tonight.
Is he really ahead of Barthelemy, Linares and Flanagan?
Course he is! Eddie said so!!!
Hearn and Gallagher jumping about more than Crolla.
Embarrassing...
Can you post a video of your gutted reaction to tonight?
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brilo33 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
Supremo wrote:
Course he is! Eddie said so!!!
Hearn and Gallagher jumping about more than Crolla.
Embarrassing...
remember that boy was in a coma less then 2 years ago
how could I forget?
props to Crolla for the win but Hearns interview at the end and all the jumping about in the ring is just way over the top...
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jameswilson wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
Supremo wrote:
Course he is! Eddie said so!!!
Hearn and Gallagher jumping about more than Crolla.
Embarrassing...
Can you post a video of your gutted reaction to tonight?
hey up jimbo, long time my friend.
no wank material from me to you tonight however.
sorry about that pal :TU:
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wesshaw1985 wrote:
brilo33 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote: Hearn and Gallagher jumping about more than Crolla.
Embarrassing...
remember that boy was in a coma less then 2 years ago
how could I forget?
props to Crolla for the win but Hearns interview at the end and all the jumping about in the ring is just way over the top...
of course hearn was cringe always thats promoters
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Neil Gee wrote:
Supremo wrote:What's the chances of warren and Hearn getting it together for Flanagan vs crolla?
Pretty good.
Surely can make both men a lot of money..... Can imagine the pottential for trouble will be quite high with a city/Utd crowd
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wesshaw1985 wrote:a lot of Sky Sports talk of Crolla being no.1 lightweight tonight.
Is he really ahead of Barthelemy, Linares and Flanagan?
I'm not sure if he's ahead of them or Zlaticanin, but he's certainly in the mix. Hopefully we'll see some of the top guys at the weight square off and then perhaps we'll have a clearer idea of who the top fighter is.
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crusader wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:a lot of Sky Sports talk of Crolla being no.1 lightweight tonight.
Is he really ahead of Barthelemy, Linares and Flanagan?
I'm not sure if he's ahead of them or Zlaticanin, but he's certainly in the mix. Hopefully we'll see some of the top guys at the weight square off and then perhaps we'll have a clearer idea of who the top fighter is.
surely Hearn can tempt Linares over again for a unification fight.
Flanagan doesn't get made anytime soon I don't think. I wish Hearn would take W@rren up on the sealed bids offer and do it live on IFL...
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Damn good win for Crolla. I had Barroso winning in the first 5 rounds. I don't know if Barroso got injured or just hit the wall with his stamina but Crolla turned it around hard in the 6th and started kicking his ass. Beautiful bodyshot to score the knockout in the 7th
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gilgamesh wrote:Damn good win for Crolla. I had Barroso winning in the first 5 rounds. I don't know if Barroso got injured or just hit the wall with his stamina but Crolla turned it around hard in the 6th and started kicking his ass. Beautiful bodyshot to score the knockout in the 7th
hit the wall big time .crolla soaked up the punishment tactics spot on
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Not sure how good Barroso really is in the bigger picture, especially after gassing so bad tonight, still a good win for Crolla though, just not quite as much as they were hyping it. Probably flattered a bit by his beating of Mitchell who is at the end of his career.
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Joe gets a hard time sometimes but his tactics tonight were spot on. Not many were giving Crolla a chance tonight after what this kid did to mitchell. Glad i took a few quid off the bookies offering silly money for a crolla stoppage. Nice one Ant.
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Crolla looks bigger and stronger than ever it makes me wonder how he does it
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Cracking win for Crolla.

On paper he's got a piss poor KO record but he's deceptively got quite a decent pop on him. Tactics were spot on.
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I was there last night and my god was it bad probably the last match room show I am going to.
Unless it's a really special fight.

The undercard was absolutely abysmal for an arena show its 10pm and there is a massive gap with nothing happening ... Here should be a decent fight on !! Loads of fighting in the stands and coked up drunk idiots chanting United songs. I was at the Frampton Quigg fight and of course people were hammered but the Irish are always sound people and no trouble at all I think probably how bad the card was made me focus on the crowd

I don't really have to comment on the undercard because it was dreadful and enough has been said already on the thread.

In fact the four rounders before the main event I quite enjoyed as they were still much better than the standard previously ( bar the singleton anwar fight ) and at least it was some boxing rather than nothing.

As for the main even wow that Micthell win flatters Barroso. I rewatched it a few days ago and he barely threw anything until the KO so his stamina issues were never exposed.

Typical JG tactics paid off last night but God Barrosos fitness was abysmal I had him winning the first 4 rounds. I like Crolla a lot personally but there is no clear number 1 at the weight in the world or even in his City.

One a plus note Marcus Morrison seemed to get a decent reception be interesting how he develops crap opponent though learned zero from that.
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Naandrew wrote:I was there last night and my god was it bad probably the last match room show I am going to.
Unless it's a really special fight.
:lol:
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wesshaw1985 wrote:
crusader wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:a lot of Sky Sports talk of Crolla being no.1 lightweight tonight.
Is he really ahead of Barthelemy, Linares and Flanagan?
I'm not sure if he's ahead of them or Zlaticanin, but he's certainly in the mix. Hopefully we'll see some of the top guys at the weight square off and then perhaps we'll have a clearer idea of who the top fighter is.
surely Hearn can tempt Linares over again for a unification fight.
Flanagan doesn't get made anytime soon I don't think. I wish Hearn would take W@rren up on the sealed bids offer and do it live on IFL...
I don't really see how that could work. Whilst Flanagan may well be the better fighter, Crolla sells (I'm guessing) over double the amount of tickets and is more well known so will be looking for more than a 50% cut.
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maverick23 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
crusader wrote:
I'm not sure if he's ahead of them or Zlaticanin, but he's certainly in the mix. Hopefully we'll see some of the top guys at the weight square off and then perhaps we'll have a clearer idea of who the top fighter is.
surely Hearn can tempt Linares over again for a unification fight.
Flanagan doesn't get made anytime soon I don't think. I wish Hearn would take W@rren up on the sealed bids offer and do it live on IFL...
I don't really see how that could work. Whilst Flanagan may well be the better fighter, Crolla sells (I'm guessing) over double the amount of tickets and is more well known so will be looking for more than a 50% cut.
they are both champs and neither sells out the M.E.N alone.
50/50, sealed bids, W@rren vs. Hearn, who ever thinks they can generate the most cash wins.
W@rren has been calling for it for awhile, Hearn always shys away.
Steve Wood: "I work with Frank and Matchroom, they should put sealed bids to stage and the winner gets to put on the fight"
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There's different levels of not selling out the MEN wes, it's not like there were 3,000 people there last night.

I wouldn't sell out Wembley, neither did Carl Froch, will I get 50/50 for a fight against him if he came out of retirement?

Crolla's popularity in Manchester will have gone up a notch after last night as he was an underdog and put on an exciting disciplined performance. It wouldn't suprise me if in his next fight there's 9k-10k+ in the MEN.
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wesshaw1985 wrote:
maverick23 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote: surely Hearn can tempt Linares over again for a unification fight.
Flanagan doesn't get made anytime soon I don't think. I wish Hearn would take W@rren up on the sealed bids offer and do it live on IFL...
I don't really see how that could work. Whilst Flanagan may well be the better fighter, Crolla sells (I'm guessing) over double the amount of tickets and is more well known so will be looking for more than a 50% cut.
they are both champs and neither sells out the M.E.N alone.
50/50, sealed bids, W@rren vs. Hearn, who ever thinks they can generate the most cash wins.
W@rren has been calling for it for awhile, Hearn always shys away.
Steve Wood: "I work with Frank and Matchroom, they should put sealed bids to stage and the winner gets to put on the fight"
They sold 6k last night so it's not like there's a major difference between the two when it comes to who's the bigger draw, although it is Crolla so he should get a bigger cut, maybe 60/40 or something like that. Work out the general terms of the fight with regards to purse split, ring, gloves and all the other bullshit that goes on, then stick the bids in and see who gets the fight. Unfortunately it seems like Hearn doesn't want the fight so at the moment it looks unlikely.
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Was anybody else shocked at how bad Tommy Coyle looked last night?

Surgery and layoff or not he looked like a shot fighter.
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Sisyphus wrote:Was anybody else shocked at how bad Tommy Coyle looked last night?

Surgery and layoff or not he looked like a shot fighter.
didn't look good at all did he
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Oiky wrote:didn't look good at all did he
Dreadful, his balance was off (his already TOO wide stance widened even further to compensate) his timing was off, but most worrying was seeing stunned a couple of time when he was caught with (what looked to be) fairly innocuous punches.
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wesshaw1985 wrote:
maverick23 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote: surely Hearn can tempt Linares over again for a unification fight.
Flanagan doesn't get made anytime soon I don't think. I wish Hearn would take W@rren up on the sealed bids offer and do it live on IFL...
I don't really see how that could work. Whilst Flanagan may well be the better fighter, Crolla sells (I'm guessing) over double the amount of tickets and is more well known so will be looking for more than a 50% cut.
they are both champs and neither sells out the M.E.N alone.
50/50, sealed bids, W@rren vs. Hearn, who ever thinks they can generate the most cash wins.
W@rren has been calling for it for awhile, Hearn always shys away.
Steve Wood: "I work with Frank and Matchroom, they should put sealed bids to stage and the winner gets to put on the fight"
Whilst neither sells out the MEN, Crolla had c.7,000 there last night whilst Flanagan has (at a guess) 3-4,000. Crolla is more well known (the BBC website did a round by round last night which is unusual for them) and his fanbase is growing. There's no way Hearn will allow it for a 50:50 split.

If Steve Wood was Crolla's manager then I doubt he'd be backing a sealed bids idea. It works in Flanagan's favour.
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The Flanagan fight is a natural in that it sells itself - 2 world champions at the same weight , not just from the same area but I believe even went to the same school.
It's a promoters dream with the city v United angle also to be maximised.

In the build up Eddie continually banged the drum about Crolla's life changing money last night and feel that will be the angle used to avoid and swerve Flanagan .
I'm not convinced Gallagher or Hearn fancy that fight and will look to easier options.
One things for sure there won't be fitness issues with the opponent .

Last nights undercard was a truly shocking affair - so one sided at times it was embarrassing - mismatchroom at its worst .
Paul smith , Martin Murray , Hosea Burton , Tommy Coyle may well have just had a spar back at the gym behind closed doors . The main support Singleton v Anwar was scrappy but had its moments .
Crolla's win apart I was very disappointed with the show, inside the arena last night was painful waiting for the main event. Long delays between fights and drunken muppets galore spoils the evening.

Hearn & Gallagher were waxing lyrical about the best lightweight in the world.
I and many others would like to see who the best lightweight in Manchester is !!
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Fortynineandout wrote:The Flanagan fight is a natural in that it sells itself - 2 world champions at the same weight , not just from the same area but I believe even went to the same school.
It's a promoters dream with the city v United angle also to be maximised.

In the build up Eddie continually banged the drum about Crolla's life changing money last night and feel that will be the angle used to avoid and swerve Flanagan .
I'm not convinced Gallagher or Hearn fancy that fight and will look to easier options.
One things for sure there won't be fitness issues with the opponent .

Last nights undercard was a truly shocking affair - so one sided at times it was embarrassing - mismatchroom at its worst .
Paul smith , Martin Murray , Hosea Burton , Tommy Coyle may well have just had a spar back at the gym behind closed doors . The main support Singleton v Anwar was scrappy but had its moments .
Crolla's win apart I was very disappointed with the show, inside the arena last night was painful waiting for the main event. Long delays between poor fights and drunken muppets galore spoils the evening.

Hearn & Gallagher were waxing lyrical about the best lightweight in the world.
I and many others would like to see who the best lightweight in Manchester is !!
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