Great fighter? Not a chance, very good yes, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned as one of the greats, his career has fallen well short of greatness.
Well played for him taking on Canelo, turned out to be ill advised as Hunter thought. no questioning his bravery, but let's not get carried away with either the plaudits, or the brickbats.
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Great fighter? Not a chance, very good yes, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned as one of the greats, his career has fallen well short of greatness.
Well played for him taking on Canelo, turned out to be ill advised as Hunter thought. no questioning his bravery, but let's not get carried away with either the plaudits, or the brickbats.
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Great fighter? Not a chance, very good yes, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned as one of the greats, his career has fallen well short of greatness.
Well played for him taking on Canelo, turned out to be ill advised as Hunter thought. no questioning his bravery, but let's not get carried away with either the plaudits, or the brickbats.
Not even a British great?
Hmmm....borderline perhaps. He fell short of the achievements of the likes of Hatton, Honeyghan and the like. He doesn't have that career defining win over one of the elite of his era unfortunately. Like I said, a very good fighter, but not a great one.
Had he beaten Alvarez, he'd have been in that category, certainly a british great.
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Hmmm....borderline perhaps. He fell short of the achievements of the likes of Hatton, Honeyghan and the like. He doesn't have that career defining win over one of the elite of his era unfortunately. Like I said, a very good fighter, but not a great one.
Had he beaten Alvarez, he'd have been in that category, certainly a british great.
So how many British fighters qualify for greatness? Less than 50? Less than 30?
Would Khan be considered a consensus top 100 British fighter of all time based on what he's done so far?
To be fair I think the ending to Froch v Taylor is probably more exciting than anything Khan has done. Khan is arguably more exciting on a consistent basis. Bute fight was pretty exciting but that had a lot to do with the atmosphere as well.
Syntax Error wrote:Good on him for trying, but I just hope he doesn't spend the next 18 months lying idle before announcing he's secured a shot at Adonis Stevenson!
He needs to get back down to 147 as he does not belong in the 'Miguel Cotto/Saul Alvarez 155 Club', but the problem for him is what can he do next?
He's not established at 147 & has repeatedly claimed that Brook is not in his class, despite it being a ready made fight for him.
Unless he is prepared to eat humble pie & give Brook the chance to fight someone who isn't dead, he's going to have to knuckle down, fight regularly & actually prove that he belongs in the mix at the top of the 147lb class.
He could easily fight the thurman/porter winner or rematch garcia.
Naandrew wrote:Slate Khan all you want but at least he shows a desire to fight the best and follows through unlike certain fighters in this country.
I think that's the last we have seen of him to be honest.
Spot on. Khan will be sorely missed when he's gone, and history will be kind to him despite the losses because of his excellent resume and his entertainment factor.
Isnt Brook in the "who needs him club" though unlike Khan?
I think Brook and Hearn are genuinely keen as mustard for a big name fight. But unlike Khan, Brook is probably viewed as a tougher opponent. Least with Khan you have the chance and potential of switching his lights off at any time with one solid punch.
Hearn has been talking about brook fighting Berto next based on his devastating win over Victor ortiz ....
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Great fighter? Not a chance, very good yes, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned as one of the greats, his career has fallen well short of greatness.
Well played for him taking on Canelo, turned out to be ill advised as Hunter thought. no questioning his bravery, but let's not get carried away with either the plaudits, or the brickbats.
Not even a British great?
Hmmm....borderline perhaps. He fell short of the achievements of the likes of Hatton, Honeyghan and the like. He doesn't have that career defining win over one of the elite of his era unfortunately. Like I said, a very good fighter, but not a great one.
Had he beaten Alvarez, he'd have been in that category, certainly a british great.
dalcumly wrote:Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.
he was the best at light welter, when Bradley refused to unify against him and instead moved up in weight
Bradley moved up to get his "win" over Pacquiao 7 months after Khan lost his title to Peterson and a month before Khan got KO'd by Garcia. Bradley remained unbeaten defending his welter title for another 2 years whilst Khan fought Molina and Diaz.
dalcumly wrote:Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.
he was the best at light welter, when Bradley refused to unify against him and instead moved up in weight
Bradley moved up to get his "win" over Pacquiao 7 months after Khan lost his title to Peterson and a month before Khan got KO'd by Garcia. Bradley remained unbeaten defending his welter title for another 2 years whilst Khan fought Molina and Diaz.
So what, khan was the main man at the weight until he got beat.
