Big Up - Amir Khan

[stevedoc]

he could beat garcia but i don't think he would garcia would get to him in the mid to late rounds and KO him again plus a KO like which khan got from canelo can take a lot out of a fighter and lets be honest khan never had a chin before now he could end up like david price going over the first time he's tagged ,khan just isn't a smart boxer garcia would figure him out after 3 or 4 rounds like canelo did

Maybe, but he'll get another nice payday even if he loses and if he wins then he can pretty much fight anyone in the division for another good payday, possibly even Mayweather or Pacquiao.

i get what you're saying but there's also his own pride look at hatton after manny KO'd him he got depressed and went on a downwards spiral sometime money can't cover up the embarresment of getting KO'd ,right now he's loaded and he got beat by a guy that was meant to beat him and he can say to himself canelo was to big but if garcia does him again it could affect him mentally afterwards and i doubt he'd get that big a purse vs garcia khan is coming off a lose and garcia has already beat him i don't see it being a massive fight myself .

[bbjc]

People giving him praise for the canelo fight. I just feel he made himself look stupid again. Bangs the drum about outboxing mayweather saying he was scared etc. And yet the boy mayweather dominated took him out in six rounds pretty much started finding him out after the third.

Too add to it all what people fail to realise is the weight and size advantage of canelo never actually played that much of a part in khans defeat. It was more to do with khans obvious flaws again a lot more than canelo using the weight advantage.

He should call it a day before he gets hurt. There is no one fighting at that level atm that looks more at risk of being seriously hurt than amir khan.

[Horse]

Too add to it all what people fail to realise is the weight and size advantage of canelo never actually played that much of a part in khans defeat. It was more to do with khans obvious flaws again a lot more than canelo using the weight advantage.

You don't have to be grappling and throwing your opponent about to be taking advantage of being the bigger man.

[jamesmcdonnell]

People giving him praise for the canelo fight. I just feel he made himself look stupid again. Bangs the drum about outboxing mayweather saying he was scared etc. And yet the boy mayweather dominated took him out in six rounds pretty much started finding him out after the third.

Too add to it all what people fail to realise is the weight and size advantage of canelo never actually played that much of a part in khans defeat. It was more to do with khans obvious flaws again a lot more than canelo using the weight advantage.

He should call it a day before he gets hurt. There is no one fighting at that level atm that looks more at risk of being seriously hurt than amir khan.

I'd say the weight played a part - in how bad the KO was, he was facing a much harder hitting opponent. Khan probably wouldn't have been knocked spark out had he been facing someone his own size. A guy weighing 15 lbs more than you, is a lot in a boxing ring.

[Anzi]

People giving him praise for the canelo fight. I just feel he made himself look stupid again. Bangs the drum about outboxing mayweather saying he was scared etc. And yet the boy mayweather dominated took him out in six rounds pretty much started finding him out after the third.

Too add to it all what people fail to realise is the weight and size advantage of canelo never actually played that much of a part in khans defeat. It was more to do with khans obvious flaws again a lot more than canelo using the weight advantage.

He should call it a day before he gets hurt. There is no one fighting at that level atm that looks more at risk of being seriously hurt than amir khan.

You do not have a clue mate !

[BigDoofus]

People giving him praise for the canelo fight. I just feel he made himself look stupid again. Bangs the drum about outboxing mayweather saying he was scared etc. And yet the boy mayweather dominated took him out in six rounds pretty much started finding him out after the third.

Too add to it all what people fail to realise is the weight and size advantage of canelo never actually played that much of a part in khans defeat. It was more to do with khans obvious flaws again a lot more than canelo using the weight advantage.

He should call it a day before he gets hurt. There is no one fighting at that level atm that looks more at risk of being seriously hurt than amir khan.

You do not have a clue mate !

You're wrong Anzi. Getting knocked out damages your health. Khan should get out now.

[BigDoofus]

I`m fully on the Matty hatton appreciation Train.

he was essentially a welterweight as well when he fought Alvarez. Canelo must of outweighed him by Close to 20 lbs on the night.

He beat Hatton like a red heided stepchild, from pillar to post for 12 hard rounds and Matty stuck it out to the end. He showed what a tough man he was.

I remember hoping the corner would pull him out . He knew he had no chance, it was Clear as day, yet he took his beating and hung in there to the end.

Can`t praise him highly enough for the balls he showed in that fight.

Exactly, took his lumps for a fraction of the cash and then went on to repeat it against Brook.

When pressed who hits harder out of Canelo vs Brook, he said they can both crack hard and similar power.

I read him quoted as saying that Brook was the more powerful.

[bbjc]

It played a part but it wasnt the most important part. People look at it like canelo used some kind of tremendous skill for the knockout. He basically walked up to him feighted a body shot then threw the overhand right. Pretty sure khan was about to throw a left hook at the time as well.

You can teach khan all day long he just doesnt have the brain for top level boxing. Thats why its dangerous. Canelo is there to be outboxed. Hell you can probably stick mallinaggi in there with canelo and he,d outbox him for two or three rounds.

Every fight khans been in against top level opposition or sometimes not even top level hes been chased round the ring.

We ve heard for 3 years how khan can outbox mayweather. And yet mayweather outboxed canelo with little difficulty. Canelo was probably the same size as he was for the khan fight.

For khan to become better he needs to stop being offensive slow down and box. What we get is the same khan like the energiser bunny coming out and going one pace all fight. People talk about his jab being one of the best in boxing but you actually need to use it for something other than setting up your offence. Hes still never learned how to control distance. What happens is he flurries then he backs off or clinches under hunter. Then flurries then same again. All the time the opponent keeps coming forward. At some point your not going to keep people off over a 12 round fight. Mayweather regarded as the best...mostly threw one punch at a time. Stop the flurries. Jab. Lead right hands. Lead jabs to the body. Point score. The flurrying is whats getting khan in trouble. As well as his many other flaws. Hes just a fast flashy fighter. The only way khan would have been elite is if he done what canelo does drain himself and comes in much bigger that everyone else. Only thing that makes canelo near elite himself.

Khans 29 now. His athletic ability is on the wane over the next few years. Hes still not able to box for himself. Constantly needs hunter to hold his hand. Add to that hes seriously deluded and the guys around him dont seem to genuinely care for him plus they all seem money motivated. Its a recipe for disaster. He should have one or two easy fights then get out the game imo.

Its dangerous going in there unable to think for yourself at that level. Even putting all the other flaws to one side. Most of the guys up there set traps...khan cant see them for himself.

[coneye]

It played a part but it wasnt the most important part. People look at it like canelo used some kind of tremendous skill for the knockout. He basically walked up to him feighted a body shot then threw the overhand right. Pretty sure khan was about to throw a left hook at the time as well.

You can teach khan all day long he just doesnt have the brain for top level boxing. Thats why its dangerous. Canelo is there to be outboxed. Hell you can probably stick mallinaggi in there with canelo and he,d outbox him for two or three rounds.

Every fight khans been in against top level opposition or sometimes not even top level hes been chased round the ring.

We ve heard for 3 years how khan can outbox mayweather. And yet mayweather outboxed canelo with little difficulty. Canelo was probably the same size as he was for the khan fight.

For khan to become better he needs to stop being offensive slow down and box. What we get is the same khan like the energiser bunny coming out and going one pace all fight. People talk about his jab being one of the best in boxing but you actually need to use it for something other than setting up your offence. Hes still never learned how to control distance. What happens is he flurries then he backs off or clinches under hunter. Then flurries then same again. All the time the opponent keeps coming forward. At some point your not going to keep people off over a 12 round fight. Mayweather regarded as the best...mostly threw one punch at a time. Stop the flurries. Jab. Lead right hands. Lead jabs to the body. Point score. The flurrying is whats getting khan in trouble. As well as his many other flaws. Hes just a fast flashy fighter. The only way khan would have been elite is if he done what canelo does drain himself and comes in much bigger that everyone else. Only thing that makes canelo near elite himself.

Khans 29 now. His athletic ability is on the wane over the next few years. Hes still not able to box for himself. Constantly needs hunter to hold his hand. Add to that hes seriously deluded and the guys around him dont seem to genuinely care for him plus they all seem money motivated. Its a recipe for disaster. He should have one or two easy fights then get out the game imo.

Its dangerous going in there unable to think for yourself at that level. Even putting all the other flaws to one side. Most of the guys up there set traps...khan cant see them for himself.

Correct ,, straight punches , arm straight back for defence , jab , straight right , move , spot punch move , pick up a point move ... What the fornicate was he setting himself up for hooks for , throwing hooks against a bigger stronger , harder hitting opponent, was always going to leave him open for a counter , ESPECIELLY has the fight wore on .

Khan keeps getting knocked out for the same reason , he gets timed , has fast has he is it does'nt matter he makes the same moves over and over again , fight after fight , , you can bank on the fact Khan will make the move and , after a couple of rounds when he slows , he will still do the same moves and allow you to time him , and thats why he gets ko'd so badly , he moves into the oncoming punches . Your dead right he cannot do whats probably the most important thing at that level , and thats think for himself and make adjustments .

[Deserter]

It played a part but it wasnt the most important part. People look at it like canelo used some kind of tremendous skill for the knockout. He basically walked up to him feighted a body shot then threw the overhand right. Pretty sure khan was about to throw a left hook at the time as well.

You can teach khan all day long he just doesnt have the brain for top level boxing. Thats why its dangerous. Canelo is there to be outboxed. Hell you can probably stick mallinaggi in there with canelo and he,d outbox him for two or three rounds.

Every fight khans been in against top level opposition or sometimes not even top level hes been chased round the ring.

We ve heard for 3 years how khan can outbox mayweather. And yet mayweather outboxed canelo with little difficulty. Canelo was probably the same size as he was for the khan fight.

For khan to become better he needs to stop being offensive slow down and box. What we get is the same khan like the energiser bunny coming out and going one pace all fight. People talk about his jab being one of the best in boxing but you actually need to use it for something other than setting up your offence. Hes still never learned how to control distance. What happens is he flurries then he backs off or clinches under hunter. Then flurries then same again. All the time the opponent keeps coming forward. At some point your not going to keep people off over a 12 round fight. Mayweather regarded as the best...mostly threw one punch at a time. Stop the flurries. Jab. Lead right hands. Lead jabs to the body. Point score. The flurrying is whats getting khan in trouble. As well as his many other flaws. Hes just a fast flashy fighter. The only way khan would have been elite is if he done what canelo does drain himself and comes in much bigger that everyone else. Only thing that makes canelo near elite himself.

Khans 29 now. His athletic ability is on the wane over the next few years. Hes still not able to box for himself. Constantly needs hunter to hold his hand. Add to that hes seriously deluded and the guys around him dont seem to genuinely care for him plus they all seem money motivated. Its a recipe for disaster. He should have one or two easy fights then get out the game imo.

Its dangerous going in there unable to think for yourself at that level. Even putting all the other flaws to one side. Most of the guys up there set traps...khan cant see them for himself.

Great post. Absolutely nailed it for me.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Has Khan ever been considered the best in the world at ANY weight?
He' s been a really good 'contender' but never 'the' best. He's kind of like Chris Finnegan, Dave Green, Colin Jones, all very good but unfortunately around at the time of Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Leonard etc. Just the same as Khan with Mayweather and Pacquaio.
The difference is the money available today and how through the media you can become very well known indeed.
Khan takes fights like everybody else for one thing only - money. He had no chance against Alvarez because he's not good enough to step up 2/3 weight divisions against a 'live' champion.
He's very good , but will soon be forgotten.

he was the best at light welter, when Bradley refused to unify against him and instead moved up in weight

Bradley moved up to get his "win" over Pacquiao 7 months after Khan lost his title to Peterson and a month before Khan got KO'd by Garcia. Bradley remained unbeaten defending his welter title for another 2 years whilst Khan fought Molina and Diaz.

Bradley never ever beat Pacman.

[Autobarn]

I'm not so sure Khan gets such a "big up".

He just chased the big payday in a fight he could not win. Something he kept asking for with Mayweather and Pacquiao.

Since the Garcia fight Khan hasn't seemed interested in building anything, just looking good (or sometimes not) versus guys who while world class were just right for him. As in underpowered, fast but not as fast as Khan. He's not held a world title for a couple of years now and I think he's just happy with the HBO licence fee and the one really big payday. Not participating in a big rivalry, not winning a world title in a weight he's a genuine force at. Not unifying any titles (he stayed away from the140 unification bouts involving peers Bradley and Alexander) ...His career best win came against Devon Alexander, much later than when it was a meaningful fight. I think we all hoped for a bit more than that from the 2004 Olympic Bronze Medallist touted for greatness.

It's not inconceivable that he'll finish his career with brutal KO defeats in every class from lightweight to "cinnamon weight".

[TheGman]

I can be brave and id fight any boxer in the world for £9mill,brave my arse he gets paid very well for what he does. If an average joe of the street laced up a pair of gloves and fought canelo then they would be brave. Its the same as footy players when they score a good goal or a keeper saves a good shot its not great they train every day and are professional but if an average joe off the street done it then that would be great cause they dont train for it. Khan and his family are set for life off that one fight,id fight any top ranked fighter for £250,000 ha

[Anzi]

This should be a who hates khan post, with all the haters. Never known a British fighter with 2 World titles, who has fought some of the best fighters, on their patch and who has won a silver medal at the Olympics, at only 17, for Britain, get so much hate, from such unqualified people in Britain. At least they are not following him blindly, like with some fighters.

[ShadrachSimmo]

This should be a who hates khan post, with all the haters. Never known a British fighter with 2 World titles, who has fought some of the best fighters, on their patch and who has won a silver medal at the Olympics, at only 17, for Britain, get so much hate, from such unqualified people in Britain. At least they are not following him blindly, like with some fighters.

What is it with you and the word "hate" ?

[Anzi]

Shadracksimmo, don't see much love, do you ? Can I ask you what your own personal achievements are, how long it took you, how hard you had to work for them and what obstacles you had to overcome ? I won't judge you if you have or have not, just would like you to be honest.

[TheGman]

This should be a who hates khan post, with all the haters. Never known a British fighter with 2 World titles, who has fought some of the best fighters, on their patch and who has won a silver medal at the Olympics, at only 17, for Britain, get so much hate, from such unqualified people in Britain. At least they are not following him blindly, like with some fighters.

Unqualified? Every sport is a matter of opinion,your not qualified either numb nuts so go and post a "i suck khans nads" post. I dont rate khan never have never will he believes his own hype,he has been sparked out 3 times after giving it the billy big balls to the media. He hasnt fought some of best fighters,garcia he was meant to win (if u listened to khan) prescott he was meant to win and canelo was a (ill fight canelo for 9mill then people might forget about me fighting brook). Why wont he fight brook??? Ur qualifies arnt u anzi? Tell boxrec why he wont fight brook

[Horse]

Unqualified? Every sport is a matter of opinion,your not qualified either numb nuts so go and post a "i suck khans nads" post. I dont rate khan never have never will he believes his own hype,he has been sparked out 3 times after giving it the billy big balls to the media.

What do you mean that you don't rate Khan?

He is/was clearly a world class fighter. Do you disagree with that?

He hasnt fought some of best fighters,

And Brook certainly hasn't.

garcia he was meant to win (if u listened to khan) prescott he was meant to win and canelo was a (ill fight canelo for 9mill then people might forget about me fighting brook). Why wont he fight brook??? Ur qualifies arnt u anzi? Tell boxrec why he wont fight brook

Because Brook doesn't deserve it.

Brook's been leeching off Khan's name for years.

It's time he built a proper legacy for himself. Khan owes him nothing.

[TheGman]

Unqualified? Every sport is a matter of opinion,your not qualified either numb nuts so go and post a "i suck khans nads" post. I dont rate khan never have never will he believes his own hype,he has been sparked out 3 times after giving it the billy big balls to the media.

What do you mean that you don't rate Khan?

He is/was clearly a world class fighter. Do you disagree with that?

He hasnt fought some of best fighters,

And Brook certainly hasn't.

garcia he was meant to win (if u listened to khan) prescott he was meant to win and canelo was a (ill fight canelo for 9mill then people might forget about me fighting brook). Why wont he fight brook??? Ur qualifies arnt u anzi? Tell boxrec why he wont fight brook

Because Brook doesn't deserve it.

Brook's been leeching off Khan's name for years.

It's time he built a proper legacy for himself. Khan owes him nothing.

I dont rate khan at all no.


Brook beat porter for the world title,khan beat kotelnik who do u rate better???

Brook has only recently calling khan out so dont know were u get brook leeching of his name from.

Legacy? Who khan? Like i say i dont rate him,he isnt as big a name as he thinks he is,just my opinion,i dont have the qualifications to say these things but hey ho

[jamesmcdonnell]

Let's cut the bollocks here - I don't think anyone here hates Khan, however one must be realistic about his achievements.

Has he achieved more than Brook - yes at this stage he has - does Brook 'deserve' the fight, well, that depends on your point of view. The two men should fight, it would be a huge domestic dust up between two world class fighters in the same weight division, but Khan seems dead set on not giving Brook what he sees as an opportunity.

However, if Khan takes the fight with Garcia and gets smashed again, then he's starting to look like he's damaged goods, and by then, the fight with Brook probably won't appeal so much (unless Brook himself has been beaten).

Brook should get on with trying to unify the division (in which case he must be rooting for Garcia) - and Khan should think carefully about the last few fights of his career, because he does seem far nearer the end than the beginning.

[Horse]

I dont rate khan at all no.

Then you are a fool.

Brook beat porter for the world title,khan beat kotelnik who do u rate better???

They are on a pretty similar level and that is only one win.

Brook has only recently calling khan out so dont know were u get brook leeching of his name from.

Legacy? Who khan? Like i say i dont rate him,he isnt as big a name as he thinks he is,just my opinion,i dont have the qualifications to say these things but hey ho

Khan has a far greater legacy than Brook.

[TheGman]

Unqualified? Every sport is a matter of opinion,your not qualified either numb nuts so go and post a "i suck khans nads" post. I dont rate khan never have never will he believes his own hype,he has been sparked out 3 times after giving it the billy big balls to the media.

What do you mean that you don't rate Khan?

He is/was clearly a world class fighter. Do you disagree with that?

He hasnt fought some of best fighters,

And Brook certainly hasn't.

garcia he was meant to win (if u listened to khan) prescott he was meant to win and canelo was a (ill fight canelo for 9mill then people might forget about me fighting brook). Why wont he fight brook??? Ur qualifies arnt u anzi? Tell boxrec why he wont fight brook

Because Brook doesn't deserve it.

Brook's been leeching off Khan's name for years.

It's time he built a proper legacy for himself. Khan owes him nothing.

Oh and just because someone fights on the world stage doesnt mean i have to rate them,i dont rate khan,ill give him credit for beating maidana cause he was his madatory and was a dangerous fighter the rest were hand picked to suut him and i think chris algeri gave him a harder fight than the scores read

[Horse]

Let's cut the bollocks here - I don't think anyone here hates Khan, however one must be realistic about his achievements.

I think that some people on here do hate Khan.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I dont rate khan at all no.

Then you are a fool.

Brook beat porter for the world title,khan beat kotelnik who do u rate better???

They are on a pretty similar level and that is only one win.

Brook has only recently calling khan out so dont know were u get brook leeching of his name from.

Legacy? Who khan? Like i say i dont rate him,he isnt as big a name as he thinks he is,just my opinion,i dont have the qualifications to say these things but hey ho

Khan has a far greater legacy than Brook.

He does, but to be fair, he got a fast start due to the Olympics and was fast tracked to being a main event fighter.

As it stands though, I agree. Brook really only has one significant name on his resume.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Let's cut the bollocks here - I don't think anyone here hates Khan, however one must be realistic about his achievements.

I think that some people on here do hate Khan.

Well maybe, but I'm not one of them. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate the guy; I've just reservations about raving about him more than his record deserves.