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[mike1989]

... Yes, what now obtained the rating of Vladimir Klitschko of all-time ??? )

This is the current situation:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... eavies.pdf

thank you. I just do not understand the last two files ???

[computerrank]

thank you. I just do not understand the last two files ???

They show:

- the all time ratings of all men - pound 4 pound - sorted by htr
-- hr = all time points in official ratings
-- htr = all time points in test ratings (our last test version)

- the all time ratings of all heavyweights men - sorted by htr
-- hr = all time points in official ratings
-- htr = all time points in test ratings (our last test version)

[mike1989]

thank you. I just do not understand the last two files ???

They show:

- the all time ratings of all men - pound 4 pound - sorted by htr
-- hr = all time points in official ratings
-- htr = all time points in test ratings (our last test version)

- the all time ratings of all heavyweights men - sorted by htr
-- hr = all time points in official ratings
-- htr = all time points in test ratings (our last test version)

thank you . and when will the new redakcija rating of all-time ???

[computerrank]

thank you . and when will the new redakcija rating of all-time ???

Did you find any other errors? I would like to wait, until you have finished ...

[mike1989]

thank you . and when will the new redakcija rating of all-time ???

Did you find any other errors? I would like to wait, until you have finished ...

even a little look. ) I am very pleased )

[mike1989]

thank you . and when will the new redakcija rating of all-time ???

why is the maximum value of the rating of boxers of the era of the past 20-60 years practically has not changed that is not true of the subsequent era in Boxing ???

[mike1989]

thank you . and when will the new redakcija rating of all-time ???

Did you find any other errors? I would like to wait, until you have finished ...

I don't see any bug...when will be the release of a new rating of all time ???

[mike1989]

Naoya Inoue :
2014 for Omar Andres Narvaez should not get 33 point and 66 point at the time of the fight Omar Andres Narvaez was in cluster No. 2 ( 2-1=1)= 66 point ???

[computerrank]

Naoya Inoue :
2014 for Omar Andres Narvaez should not get 33 point and 66 point at the time of the fight Omar Andres Narvaez was in cluster No. 2 ( 2-1=1)= 66 point ???

I will look into this in a week ... I am off from home ...

[mike1989]

Naoya Inoue :
2014 for Omar Andres Narvaez should not get 33 point and 66 point at the time of the fight Omar Andres Narvaez was in cluster No. 2 ( 2-1=1)= 66 point ???

I will look into this in a week ... I am off from home ...

okay .

[computerrank]

Naoya Inoue :
2014 for Omar Andres Narvaez should not get 33 point and 66 point at the time of the fight Omar Andres Narvaez was in cluster No. 2 ( 2-1=1)= 66 point ???

I will look into this in a week ... I am off from home ...

okay .

Narvaez was #3 in the bantam / super flyweight cluster:

Code: Select all

 432       Juan Francisco              Estrada
 414             Shinsuke             Yamanaka
 343          Omar Andres              Narvaez

[mike1989]

Narvaez was #3 in the bantam / super flyweight cluster:

Code: Select all

 432       Juan Francisco              Estrada
 414             Shinsuke             Yamanaka
 343          Omar Andres              Narvaez

the Juan Francisco Estrada belongs to the Flyweight division, and this cluster minimumweight+light Flyweight+ Flyweight, Omar Andreas narvales fighter cluster suer Flyweight + Bantamweight.???

[computerrank]

the Juan Francisco Estrada belongs to the Flyweight division, and this cluster minimumweight+light Flyweight+ Flyweight, Omar Andreas narvales fighter cluster suer Flyweight + Bantamweight.???

Estrada's bout on 2014-12-06 was assigned to super flyweight.

But I understand, Estrada should better be assigned to flyweight at this time.

To keep all this up to date, I would have to check all boxers in all top lists before every bout - that might be too much effort for the progam

[mike1989]

the Juan Francisco Estrada belongs to the Flyweight division, and this cluster minimumweight+light Flyweight+ Flyweight, Omar Andreas narvales fighter cluster suer Flyweight + Bantamweight.???

Estrada's bout on 2014-12-06 was assigned to super flyweight.

But I understand, Estrada should better be assigned to flyweight at this time.

To keep all this up to date, I would have to check all boxers in all top lists before every bout - that might be too much effort for the progam

the Estrada in any case, the Flyweight ????

[mike1989]

on a brush of clusters:
this system is extremely unfair to kruzerveyt , I would suggest to shield the average rate that goes between the cluster and apply them to weight categories then everything will be in equal conditions ???

[computerrank]

New situation based on single divisions ...

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_2.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_2.pdf

[mike1989]

New situation based on single divisions ...

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_2.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_2.pdf

write the formula by which you shield rating ???

[computerrank]

New situation based on single divisions ...

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_2.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_2.pdf

write the formula by which you shield rating ???

Each division is ranked by itself.

Boxers are ranked in their best division last year. Opponents are ranked in the division, where the bout happened.

The ratings conversion formula for division changes is the same as before.

[mike1989]

New situation based on single divisions ...

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_2.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_2.pdf

write the formula by which you shield rating ???

Each division is ranked by itself.

Boxers are ranked in their best division last year. Opponents are ranked in the division, where the bout happened.

The ratings conversion formula for division changes is the same as before.

this wording is taken as a basis or remains previous ???

[computerrank]

this wording is taken as a basis or remains previous ???

Did you look into it? It looks better for me.

I guess, I could give the annuals rank points only, if the boxer had a bout against a ranked opponent in the same year ...

Here it is:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_3.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_3.pdf

[mike1989]

this wording is taken as a basis or remains previous ???

Did you look into it? It looks better for me.

I guess, I could give the annuals rank points only, if the boxer had a bout against a ranked opponent in the same year ...

haven't delved into the rating. But pomory write.
I want to share with You their thoughts naschet rating:

1. your formula for the definition of clusters and determined the average value , it will give a single coefficient to be used for lowering or raising the rating if a fighter changes weight class (this will be true with respect to all weight categories) ;
2. leave the clusters on your wording but opredelyaem the dominant division in the cluster for ranking fighters, for example :
in 2015 , the cluster Super Featherweight+Lightweight, saddlebag top 20 Super Featherweight divided by sum of top 20 Lightweight get coefficient 0,849
in favor of the Super Featherweight to determine the annual rating point; this coefficient use for the determination of the best female defeated opozicii for all of 2016;

how about this ????

[mike1989]

this wording is taken as a basis or remains previous ???

Did you look into it? It looks better for me.

I guess, I could give the annuals rank points only, if the boxer had a bout against a ranked opponent in the same year ...

Here it is:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_3.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_3.pdf

unable to describe in more detail the new formulas ???

[computerrank]

haven't delved into the rating. But pomory write.
I want to share with You their thoughts naschet rating:

1. your formula for the definition of clusters and determined the average value , it will give a single coefficient to be used for lowering or raising the rating if a fighter changes weight class (this will be true with respect to all weight categories) ;
2. leave the clusters on your wording but opredelyaem the dominant division in the cluster for ranking fighters, for example :
in 2015 , the cluster Super Featherweight+Lightweight, saddlebag top 20 Super Featherweight divided by sum of top 20 Lightweight get coefficient 0,849
in favor of the Super Featherweight to determine the annual rating point; this coefficient use for the determination of the best female defeated opozicii for all of 2016;

how about this ????

The clusters prefer the highest division. So I will go with the rankings in each distinct division.

For opponent ranking the ratings of both opponents will be converted to the bout's division. This mostly depends on boxers weights and not on population of the divisions.

A cruiserweight boxing at heavyweight will be much less competitive than an original heavyweight, just due to the weight difference. The difference is much smaller at lower divisions as the weight difference is much smaller.

[mike1989]

this wording is taken as a basis or remains previous ???

Did you look into it? It looks better for me.

I guess, I could give the annuals rank points only, if the boxer had a bout against a ranked opponent in the same year ...

Here it is:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_3.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_3.pdf

unable to describe in more detail the new formulas ???

and on a brush ???

[computerrank]

Did you look into it? It looks better for me.

I guess, I could give the annuals rank points only, if the boxer had a bout against a ranked opponent in the same year ...

Here it is:

http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/ann_tops_years_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/bouts_ranks_3.txt
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_time_men_3.pdf
http://backup.boxrec.com/~martin/all_ti ... vies_3.pdf

unable to describe in more detail the new formulas ???

and on a brush ???

- annual year's end rank in division with best performance
-- 100 points / rank * weight
-- weight = number of division top 10 with rating higher than 150 points / 10
-- annual year's end rank points only if there was a ranked best opponent in the same year

- annual best opponent rank converted to bout division a time of bout
-- 100 points / (rank_opp-1) * weight_opp ; when rank_opp is 1 or 2 then use 2
-- weight_opp = number of bout division top 10 with rating higher than 150 points / 10 at time of bout

all time rating is the sum of these annual points over career