Who's next for Wilder?

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 16 May 2016, 02:23

According to WBC rules - not too many choices. It should be one of top15.

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) No
2 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada) No
3 .- Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) EBU No(just had fight)
4 .- Johann Duhaupas (France) SILVER No
5 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon) No(has fight this week)
6 .- Joseph Parker (New Zealand) OPBF No(has fiht this week)
7 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF No(just had fight)
8 .- David Haye (GB) No(has scheduled fight)
9 .- Bryant Jennings (US) Possible
10 .- Malik Scott (US) No
11 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland) No
12 .- Eric Molina (US) No
13 .- Dereck Chisora (GB) No
14 .- Ruslan Chagaev (Uzbekistan) Retired?
15 .- Gerald Washington (US) Possible

So, Jennings or Washington, in NY on very short notice?

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 16 May 2016, 02:34

If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 16 May 2016, 02:40

asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

Will WBC sanction it? Will somebody pay money to watch it? Is it nice to hit old guys???

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 16 May 2016, 02:48

bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.
Will WBC sanction it? Will somebody pay money to watch it? Is it nice to hit old guys???

No, a WBC fight is nearly impossible on such short notice, unless Wilder goes to Russia anyway to defend his title.

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 16 May 2016, 02:56

asdfjkl wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.
Will WBC sanction it? Will somebody pay money to watch it? Is it nice to hit old guys???
No, a WBC fight is nearly impossible on such short notice, unless Wilder goes to Russia anyway to defend his title.

The only one who will go to Moscow is Wilder's lawyer, to sue Riabinski's ass for 5M$

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 16 May 2016, 02:59

Make David Haye come fight him in North America.
Deontay has the strap.

foxdog1923 · Post by **foxdog1923** » 16 May 2016, 03:07

Evander wrote:Make David Haye come fight him in North America.
Deontay has the strap.

There we go and I think Haye could win it as well.

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 16 May 2016, 03:14

foxdog1923 wrote:
Evander wrote:Make David Haye come fight him in North America.
Deontay has the strap.
There we go and I think Haye could win it as well.

Haye wont he's satisfied he's building his name.
If a 1 off opportunity came up could he take it ?

foxdog1923 · Post by **foxdog1923** » 16 May 2016, 03:25

Evander wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
Evander wrote:Make David Haye come fight him in North America.
Deontay has the strap.
There we go and I think Haye could win it as well.
Haye wont he's satisfied he's building his name.
If a 1 off opportunity came up could he take it ?

I think Haye fancies himself beating Wilder and if the money's right he will jump at the chance.

marvelous marv · Post by **marvelous marv** » 16 May 2016, 03:29

The most likely scenario is Pulev in summer, while waiting for Fury/Wlad to fight. Pulev has to fight winner of Takam/Parker to become mandatory to Joshua. He could jump to the front of the line rather than waiting until late 2017 for a title shot assuming he beats Parker, which is a high risk fight.

WBC will not sanction Povetkin until he can pass the tests, and even then he may be suspended for six months or more pending testing of his B sample.

foxdog1923 · Post by **foxdog1923** » 16 May 2016, 03:33

marvelous marv wrote:The most likely scenario is Pulev in summer, while waiting for Fury/Wlad to fight. Pulev has to fight winner of Takam/Parker to become mandatory to Joshua. He could jump to the front of the line rather than waiting until late 2017 for a title shot assuming he beats Parker, which is a high risk fight.

WBC will not sanction Povetkin until he can pass the tests, and even then he may be suspended for six months or more pending testing of his B sample.

According to advertisements and promotions here in New Zealand, the winner of the Parker Takam fight fights Joshua. If that's false then these promotions and advertisements are liable.

claudevsq · Post by **claudevsq** » 16 May 2016, 03:44

Me too, I understand that the Takam-Parker winner is mandatory to Joshua, with Pulev to get next shot. Pulev ranked #2, Parker/Takam will be ranked number 1 (final eliminator). I do NOT think winner of Takam vs. Parker has to fight Pulev first...

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 16 May 2016, 04:04

foxdog1923 wrote:
Evander wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote: There we go and I think Haye could win it as well.
Haye wont he's satisfied he's building his name.
If a 1 off opportunity came up could he take it ?
I think Haye fancies himself beating Wilder and if the money's right he will jump at the chance.

They'll offer him 2 mill ... or thereabouts either way depending on the circumstances I reckon.

tigermoth87 · Post by **tigermoth87** » 16 May 2016, 07:36

As a short-notice fight, Jennings and Washington would be acceptable.

I have to wonder why Ortiz isn't ranked though? I don't think he's top 15 with the IBF either is he?

foxdog1923 · Post by **foxdog1923** » 16 May 2016, 07:39

tigermoth87 wrote:As a short-notice fight, Jennings and Washington would be acceptable.

I have to wonder why Ortiz isn't ranked though? I don't think he's top 15 with the IBF either is he?

Ortiz would be good but he's not an ordinary last minute replacement. It'll be more of a big fight cancelled now turned into a mega fight.

runner_phob · Post by **runner_phob** » 16 May 2016, 09:16

Maybe Khan ?

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 16 May 2016, 09:36

tigermoth87 wrote:As a short-notice fight, Jennings and Washington would be acceptable.

I have to wonder why Ortiz isn't ranked though? I don't think he's top 15 with the IBF either is he?

He's the WBA interim champion, so he's unlikely to get ranked by the other sanctioning bodies.

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 16 May 2016, 09:55

Wilder vs Jennings would be a good matchup, although Jennings is coming off two losses and probably needs a confidence-builder fight or two first.

Tony1244 · Post by **Tony1244** » 16 May 2016, 10:17

asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 16 May 2016, 10:22

Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.

Exactly and it wouldn't cost Wilder any time, like it seems to be now, he even was already in the UK.

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 16 May 2016, 10:28

Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.

Ye...sure...Wilder vs Briggs will sell a lot of tickets in Moscow

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 16 May 2016, 10:29

asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.
Exactly and it wouldn't cost Wilder any time, like it seems to be now, he even was already in the UK.

And who will pay money for it??? Riabinski???

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 16 May 2016, 10:29

bigman1968 wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.

Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.
Ye...sure...Wilder vs Briggs will sell a lot of tickets in Moscow

Haye's undercard isn't in Moscow

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 16 May 2016, 10:30

bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:[/b]

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.
Exactly and it wouldn't cost Wilder any time, like it seems to be now, he even was already in the UK.
And who will pay money for it??? Riabinski???

The crowd, come on kids, even you are expected to know at least something of boxing if you post on this forum.

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 16 May 2016, 10:33

asdfjkl wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:[/b]

I Love that idea! Wilder-Briggs! If a fighter gets injured or fails a test, bring in a replacement, thats how it should work.
Ye...sure...Wilder vs Briggs will sell a lot of tickets in Moscow
Haye's undercard isn't in Moscow

But the replacement is for the fight in Moscow...you said it yourself

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