Who's next for Wilder?

bigman1968
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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asdfjkl wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Exactly and it wouldn't cost Wilder any time, like it seems to be now, he even was already in the UK.
And who will pay money for it??? Riabinski??? :doh:
The crowd, come on kids, even you are expected to know at least something of boxing if you post on this forum.
WBC title HW fight will be an undercard??? And how much money Wilder will get???
You are funny guy :yay:
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
And who will pay money for it??? Riabinski??? :doh:
The crowd, come on kids, even you are expected to know at least something of boxing if you post on this forum.
WBC title HW fight will be an undercard??? And how much money Wilder will get???
You are funny guy :yay:
It's not a title fight since Briggs isn't in the top list of the WBC at all...

Sorry kid, it becomes harder and harder to answer all the odd things that flip around in your mind.
One idiot can ask more as ten scientists can answer.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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asdfjkl wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: The crowd, come on kids, even you are expected to know at least something of boxing if you post on this forum.
WBC title HW fight will be an undercard??? And how much money Wilder will get???
You are funny guy :yay:
It's not a title fight since Briggs isn't in the top list of the WBC at all...

Sorry kid, it becomes harder and harder to answer all the odd things that flip around in your mind.
One idiot can ask more as ten scientists can answer.

Fighters can magically and suddenly appear on a list. You don't have to beat a contender to appear on a top 15 list. This is Boxing. :bag:
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
WBC title HW fight will be an undercard??? And how much money Wilder will get???
You are funny guy :yay:
It's not a title fight since Briggs isn't in the top list of the WBC at all...

Sorry kid, it becomes harder and harder to answer all the odd things that flip around in your mind.
One idiot can ask more as ten scientists can answer.

Fighters can magically and suddenly appear on a list. You don't have to beat a contender to appear on a top 15 list. This is Boxing. :bag:
Then it has to happen within 5 days, it's possible, but I would be amazed if it happened.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: It's not a title fight since Briggs isn't in the top list of the WBC at all...

Sorry kid, it becomes harder and harder to answer all the odd things that flip around in your mind.
One idiot can ask more as ten scientists can answer.

Fighters can magically and suddenly appear on a list. You don't have to beat a contender to appear on a top 15 list. This is Boxing. :bag:
Then it has to happen within 5 days, it's possible, but I would be amazed if it happened.

I agree it won't happen. It makes way too much sense to find a replacement for Povetkin.

Boxing is the ONLY sport that would not come up with a replacement.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Chris Arreola, or someone else not in the Top 20.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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bigman1968 wrote:According to WBC rules - not too many choices. It should be one of top15.

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) No
2 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada) No
3 .- Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) EBU No(just had fight)
4 .- Johann Duhaupas (France) SILVER No
5 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon) No(has fight this week)
6 .- Joseph Parker (New Zealand) OPBF No(has fiht this week)
7 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF No(just had fight)
8 .- David Haye (GB) No(has scheduled fight)
9 .- Bryant Jennings (US) Possible
10 .- Malik Scott (US) No
11 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland) No
12 .- Eric Molina (US) No
13 .- Dereck Chisora (GB) No
14 .- Ruslan Chagaev (Uzbekistan) Retired?
15 .- Gerald Washington (US) Possible

So, Jennings or Washington, in NY on very short notice?
#16 is Kyotara from Japan. . . The WBC could allow an exemption due to the circumstances and allow a quickly arranged Interim fight for Wilder.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.


Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.
No way should Wilder be on the undercard of Haye-Gyiyg.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

Post by asdfjkl »

BitPlayer wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:If he likes to fight someone similar as Povetkin he can fight Tyrone Spong, exactly the same length, allmost exactly the same reach, same style and even lives quite nearby.


Another option is Briggs on the Haye undercard, he was planning to fight on that date anyway, Briggs would love it, big crowd, name it.
No way should Wilder be on the undercard of Haye-Gyiyg.
Then what does he want to do? Nothing? Oké, well go ahead, do nothing.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Wilder is in a tough spot.

I don't think the WBC will sanction anything until they have completed their investigation. Judging from what happened with Browne, that could take a while. Depending on the results of the investigation, I would expect the WBC to either A) Order Povetkin and Wilder to fight or B) Order Wilder to fight the next available contender (Stiverne).

If Wilder tried to fight an unsanctioned bout prior to the completion of the investigation, I suspect he would be sued by Povetkins team as breach of contract.

He probably just has to sit tight and wait it out.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:

Fighters can magically and suddenly appear on a list. You don't have to beat a contender to appear on a top 15 list. This is Boxing. :bag:
Then it has to happen within 5 days, it's possible, but I would be amazed if it happened.

I agree it won't happen. It makes way too much sense to find a replacement for Povetkin.

Boxing is the ONLY sport that would not come up with a replacement.
Not that simple, Wilder was getting over 4 million for that fight.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Serragon wrote:Wilder is in a tough spot.

I don't think the WBC will sanction anything until they have completed their investigation. Judging from what happened with Browne, that could take a while. Depending on the results of the investigation, I would expect the WBA to either A) Order Povetkin and Wilder to fight or B) Order Wilder to fight the next available contender (Stiverne).

If Wilder tried to fight an unsanctioned bout prior to the completion of the investigation, I suspect he would be sued by Povetkins team as breach of contract.

He probably just has to sit tight and wait it out.
The WBC are the only ones that could stop Wilder from taking another fight. He'll end up suing the promoter for his purse and winning.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Serragon wrote:Wilder is in a tough spot.

I don't think the WBC will sanction anything until they have completed their investigation. Judging from what happened with Browne, that could take a while. Depending on the results of the investigation, I would expect the WBA to either A) Order Povetkin and Wilder to fight or B) Order Wilder to fight the next available contender (Stiverne).

If Wilder tried to fight an unsanctioned bout prior to the completion of the investigation, I suspect he would be sued by Povetkins team as breach of contract.

He probably just has to sit tight and wait it out.
The WBC are the only ones that could stop Wilder from taking another fight. He'll end up suing the promoter for his purse and winning.
I mistakenly typed WBA instead of WBC. Fixed in original post.

I think we will end up with competing lawsuits instead of competing boxers. I was really looking forward to this fight.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Serragon wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Serragon wrote:Wilder is in a tough spot.

I don't think the WBC will sanction anything until they have completed their investigation. Judging from what happened with Browne, that could take a while. Depending on the results of the investigation, I would expect the WBA to either A) Order Povetkin and Wilder to fight or B) Order Wilder to fight the next available contender (Stiverne).

If Wilder tried to fight an unsanctioned bout prior to the completion of the investigation, I suspect he would be sued by Povetkins team as breach of contract.

He probably just has to sit tight and wait it out.
The WBC are the only ones that could stop Wilder from taking another fight. He'll end up suing the promoter for his purse and winning.
I mistakenly typed WBA instead of WBC. Fixed in original post.

I think we will end up with competing lawsuits instead of competing boxers. I was really looking forward to this fight.
Ryabinsky is just creating a smokescreen to try and prohibit the Wilder suit. Considering he sued King over Lebvedev/Jones, he's going to have a tough road here.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Briggs doesn't have an opponent. A perfect chance for Wilder to use his preparation and add another bum to his resume.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

Post by asdfjkl »

runner_phob wrote:Briggs doesn't have an opponent. A perfect chance for Wilder to use his preparation and add another bum to his resume.
Briggs is probably the biggest risk Wilder has ever faced actually
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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Donkey Wilder shouldn't have left England, but stayed and fought Briggs. However, it was too close to Russia, and he was scared.
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Re: Who's next for Wilder?

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runner_phob wrote:Donkey Wilder shouldn't have left England, but stayed and fought Briggs. However, it was to close to Russia, and he was scared.
I'm sure he was scared, I'm scared for the Japanese, so I don't go to America, this since America is a lot closer to Japan as the UK is to Russia.
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