GGG Needs To Earn His Shot By Fighting Lara!

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Badhusker wrote:Lara is a much more recognizable name than 9 out of the lat 10 GGG opponents, if not all of them. He will fight at 160, no problem. What is the hold up in GGG's camp?
Oh so you are a part of the negotiating team? You have inside knowledge of the fight contract? Stop being such a biased dumb ass. Either post a link showing Lara's team has sent contract proposals to Triple G or just shut the fvck up already with this stupid Lara talk.
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Baby Face Finster wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Lara is a much more recognizable name than 9 out of the lat 10 GGG opponents, if not all of them. He will fight at 160, no problem. What is the hold up in GGG's camp?
Oh so you are a part of the negotiating team? You have inside knowledge of the fight contract? Stop being such a biased dumb ass. Either post a link showing Lara's team has sent contract proposals to Triple G or just shut the fvck up already with this stupid Lara talk.
Not only he didn't send anything on paper, but also none of his adviser/manager/promoter people ever called/texted/emailed Loefler.
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Why are we talking about Lara? Why? Because he's one of the most athletic and technical boxers in the sport today with that SNIPER right hand. He's

a ring master who let Canelo outwork him but not by much it was very close fight! We want to see how GGG does against someone the caliber of a

Lara and YES Lara has been calling GGG out multiple times only to be ignored! GGG needs to earn his shot at Canelo even Khan has had notable fights

GGG hasn't fought anyone with a name! But he deserves a Canelo Alvarez payday? WTF? Fight Lara!
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bnovelist wrote:Why are we talking about Lara? Why? Because he's one of the most athletic and technical boxers in the sport today with that SNIPER right hand. He's

a ring master who let Canelo outwork him but not by much it was very close fight! We want to see how GGG does against someone the caliber of a

Lara and YES Lara has been calling GGG out multiple times only to be ignored! GGG needs to earn his shot at Canelo even Khan has had notable fights

GGG hasn't fought anyone with a name! But he deserves a Canelo Alvarez payday? WTF? Fight Lara!
He is also a light punching super welter. With Golovkin's ability cutting off the ring, he will just walk through Lara. Golovkin can only be troubled by highly technical strong opponents with a good chin. I don't see such opponents at MW right now. Eubank and maybe a couple more young guts have potential, but at this time, there is nobody capable to trouble GGG at 160.
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Baby Face Finster wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Lara is a much more recognizable name than 9 out of the lat 10 GGG opponents, if not all of them. He will fight at 160, no problem. What is the hold up in GGG's camp?
Oh so you are a part of the negotiating team? You have inside knowledge of the fight contract? Stop being such a biased dumb ass. Either post a link showing Lara's team has sent contract proposals to Triple G or just shut the fvck up already with this stupid Lara talk.

First of all, don't confuse me with someone that gives a flying fornicate what you think. I made a simple statement in the thread based on Lara calling GGG out for 2 years now. Why not respond like an adult instead of name calling and personal attacks? Biased dumb ass? STFU with stupid Lara talk?
Man, you are a real fornicating asshole. Too bad no one has taught you any manners while growing up.

Why would Lara's team send contracts to team GGG when they publicly said they were not interested? Lara would be a good scalp, a recognizable name, and better talent-wise than most of GGG's recent opponents. Simple statement. Not saying GGG is ducking, just surprised he wouldn't pursue it to increase his legacy and have a common opponent to compare with Canelo.

Two years ago, Loeffler said Lara wasn't on their radar, unless he beat Quillen then he might be. Quillen said pubicly he would never step in the ring with Lara, so I'm sure Loeffler was safe in saying that.

Here you go fuckhead...here is a "link". http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/02/gol ... lara-bout/
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Badhusker wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Lara is a much more recognizable name than 9 out of the lat 10 GGG opponents, if not all of them. He will fight at 160, no problem. What is the hold up in GGG's camp?
Oh so you are a part of the negotiating team? You have inside knowledge of the fight contract? Stop being such a biased dumb ass. Either post a link showing Lara's team has sent contract proposals to Triple G or just shut the fvck up already with this stupid Lara talk.

First of all, don't confuse me with someone that gives a flying eff what you think. I made a simple statement in the thread based on Lara calling GGG out for 2 years now. Why not respond like an adult instead of name calling and personal attacks? Biased dumb ass? STFU with stupid Lara talk?
Man, you are a real effing asshole. Too bad no one has taught you any manners while growing up.

Why would Lara's team send contracts to team GGG when they publicly said they were not interested? Lara would be a good scalp, a recognizable name, and better talent-wise than most of GGG's recent opponents. Simple statement. Not saying GGG is ducking, just surprised he wouldn't pursue it to increase his legacy and have a common opponent to compare with Canelo.

Two years ago, Loeffler said Lara wasn't on their radar, unless he beat Quillen then he might be. Quillen said pubicly he would never step in the ring with Lara, so I'm sure Loeffler was safe in saying that.

Here you go fuckhead...here is a "link". http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/02/gol ... lara-bout/
Let Lara earn his shot. Move to 160 and become a mandatory. Until then Lara deserves absolutely nothing. Now shut the fvck up about Lara until he actually becomes relevant at 160.
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Ok I understand now.......you have to be relevant and established at the weight to earn a shot at a big fight. I wondered how someone like Khan and many others did it.
You aren't the brightest candle on the cake. :brick:
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Don't know what is so hard to understand, GGG earned his shot against alverez becoming mandatory, alverez talked big in the ring after the khan fight then showed his real colors, yellow, Lara's team has not made any contact with K2 or put anything forward, so the only thing this can be put down to is that Lara is after some free publicity, you guys husker and bnovlist are exceptionally naieve to think he really wants the fight, I bet you both thought GBP wanted canelo to fight him aswell, as for that link, it was written by Chris williams, the worst troll by far at that forum, ridiculous
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Badhusker wrote:Ok I understand now.......you have to be relevant and established at the weight to earn a shot at a big fight. I wondered how someone like Khan and many others did it.
You aren't the brightest candle on the cake. :brick:
Did Golovkin fight Khan ? Golovkin doesn't fight people smaller than him. Don't compare him to cherry-picking divas.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Ok I understand now.......you have to be relevant and established at the weight to earn a shot at a big fight. I wondered how someone like Khan and many others did it.
You aren't the brightest candle on the cake. :brick:
Did Golovkin fight Khan ? Golovkin doesn't fight people smaller than him. Don't compare him to cherry-picking divas.
Sorry, I didn't realize I have to spell things out so carefully for you and your brother Baby Face. I didn't say GGG fought Khan. I didn't say he fights people smaller than him. (although he wanted to fight Floyd, who is a lot smaller than him). We all know he won't fight anyone bigger than him. (if their name is Andre Ward)

Maybe you need a couple of examples to help you understand. Since we mentioned Khan, how established was he at middleweight to get the fight with Canelo? How established was Floyd at 154 when he fought DLH? How established was Pac at welter when he fought DLH? Want some more examples? Crawford fought for the 140 title in his first fight at the weight. Garcia for a title in his second fight at full 147. Roy Jones at heavy. JMM fight with Floyd, SRL several times when he moved up.

The list is big, but hopefully you understand you do not need to be established or relevant at a weight in order to get a shot at a big fight or a champ. That is just an excuse for not making the fight.

Lara is at least in the top 20 pfp boxers today, and holds a belt at 154. That, along with his style would make an interesting fight with GGG. Much better than the last guy that fought GGG, and several other opponents he had the last few years.
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Badhusker wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Ok I understand now.......you have to be relevant and established at the weight to earn a shot at a big fight. I wondered how someone like Khan and many others did it.
You aren't the brightest candle on the cake. :brick:
Did Golovkin fight Khan ? Golovkin doesn't fight people smaller than him. Don't compare him to cherry-picking divas.
Sorry, I didn't realize I have to spell things out so carefully for you and your brother Baby Face. I didn't say GGG fought Khan. I didn't say he fights people smaller than him. (although he wanted to fight Floyd, who is a lot smaller than him). We all know he won't fight anyone bigger than him. (if their name is Andre Ward)

Maybe you need a couple of examples to help you understand. Since we mentioned Khan, how established was he at middleweight to get the fight with Canelo? How established was Floyd at 154 when he fought DLH? How established was Pac at welter when he fought DLH? Want some more examples? Crawford fought for the 140 title in his first fight at the weight. Garcia for a title in his second fight at full 147. Roy Jones at heavy. JMM fight with Floyd, SRL several times when he moved up.

The list is big, but hopefully you understand you do not need to be established or relevant at a weight in order to get a shot at a big fight or a champ. That is just an excuse for not making the fight.

Lara is at least in the top 20 pfp boxers today, and holds a belt at 154. That, along with his style would make an interesting fight with GGG. Much better than the last guy that fought GGG, and several other opponents he had the last few years.
Good examples except Khan. Khan was cherry picked by Canelo which is the only reason Canelo fought him. The rest smaller men you mentioned are STARS. Stars can call out somebody from a higher weight and expect a positive response. Lara is not even close to being a star. He isn't even universally accepted as a best SWW. Also, Lara has never really been serious about fighting GGG. Nobody from his team ever contacted Loefler. I bet if they did before the Monroe fight was signed, they would be considered. Of course Lara wouldn't take precedence over Rubio (allowed Golovkin to become WBC mandatory), Murray (one of top middleweights), Lemieux (unification) or Wade (mandatory). For similar reasons, neither will he have preference over Saunders, Jacobs or even Eubank Jr. In order to get in front of guys like that, he needs to establish himself at MW.
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Canelo asked for a voluntary so he could get a fight in against a real MW, and then fights khan, that explains a lot in itself, they had no intention of fighting GGG
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boxing_rocks wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Did Golovkin fight Khan ? Golovkin doesn't fight people smaller than him. Don't compare him to cherry-picking divas.
Sorry, I didn't realize I have to spell things out so carefully for you and your brother Baby Face. I didn't say GGG fought Khan. I didn't say he fights people smaller than him. (although he wanted to fight Floyd, who is a lot smaller than him). We all know he won't fight anyone bigger than him. (if their name is Andre Ward)

Maybe you need a couple of examples to help you understand. Since we mentioned Khan, how established was he at middleweight to get the fight with Canelo? How established was Floyd at 154 when he fought DLH? How established was Pac at welter when he fought DLH? Want some more examples? Crawford fought for the 140 title in his first fight at the weight. Garcia for a title in his second fight at full 147. Roy Jones at heavy. JMM fight with Floyd, SRL several times when he moved up.

The list is big, but hopefully you understand you do not need to be established or relevant at a weight in order to get a shot at a big fight or a champ. That is just an excuse for not making the fight.

Lara is at least in the top 20 pfp boxers today, and holds a belt at 154. That, along with his style would make an interesting fight with GGG. Much better than the last guy that fought GGG, and several other opponents he had the last few years.
Good examples except Khan. Khan was cherry picked by Canelo which is the only reason Canelo fought him. The rest smaller men you mentioned are STARS. Stars can call out somebody from a higher weight and expect a positive response. Lara is not even close to being a star. He isn't even universally accepted as a best SWW. Also, Lara has never really been serious about fighting GGG. Nobody from his team ever contacted Loefler. I bet if they did before the Monroe fight was signed, they would be considered. Of course Lara wouldn't take precedence over Rubio (allowed Golovkin to become WBC mandatory), Murray (one of top middleweights), Lemieux (unification) or Wade (mandatory). For similar reasons, neither will he have preference over Saunders, Jacobs or even Eubank Jr. In order to get in front of guys like that, he needs to establish himself at MW.
Exactly. Stars can call the shots and move up and get a crack at a title in their first fight at the weight, but someone like Lara who doesn't bring in any money and has no name recognition among casual boxing fans doesn't deserve anything. Let him earn his shot at the weight. Beat someone good at 160 and then maybe you can start requesting a title shot, until then shut the hell up.
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Baby Face Finster wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
Sorry, I didn't realize I have to spell things out so carefully for you and your brother Baby Face. I didn't say GGG fought Khan. I didn't say he fights people smaller than him. (although he wanted to fight Floyd, who is a lot smaller than him). We all know he won't fight anyone bigger than him. (if their name is Andre Ward)

Maybe you need a couple of examples to help you understand. Since we mentioned Khan, how established was he at middleweight to get the fight with Canelo? How established was Floyd at 154 when he fought DLH? How established was Pac at welter when he fought DLH? Want some more examples? Crawford fought for the 140 title in his first fight at the weight. Garcia for a title in his second fight at full 147. Roy Jones at heavy. JMM fight with Floyd, SRL several times when he moved up.

The list is big, but hopefully you understand you do not need to be established or relevant at a weight in order to get a shot at a big fight or a champ. That is just an excuse for not making the fight.

Lara is at least in the top 20 pfp boxers today, and holds a belt at 154. That, along with his style would make an interesting fight with GGG. Much better than the last guy that fought GGG, and several other opponents he had the last few years.
Good examples except Khan. Khan was cherry picked by Canelo which is the only reason Canelo fought him. The rest smaller men you mentioned are STARS. Stars can call out somebody from a higher weight and expect a positive response. Lara is not even close to being a star. He isn't even universally accepted as a best SWW. Also, Lara has never really been serious about fighting GGG. Nobody from his team ever contacted Loefler. I bet if they did before the Monroe fight was signed, they would be considered. Of course Lara wouldn't take precedence over Rubio (allowed Golovkin to become WBC mandatory), Murray (one of top middleweights), Lemieux (unification) or Wade (mandatory). For similar reasons, neither will he have preference over Saunders, Jacobs or even Eubank Jr. In order to get in front of guys like that, he needs to establish himself at MW.
Exactly. Stars can call the shots and move up and get a crack at a title in their first fight at the weight, but someone like Lara who doesn't bring in any money and has no name recognition among casual boxing fans doesn't deserve anything. Let him earn his shot at the weight. Beat someone good at 160 and then maybe you can start requesting a title shot, until then shut the hell up.
Well, Lara earned a shot today, mate, a shot against Usain Bolt!
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bnovelist wrote:How arrogant of him and Abel...He hasn't fought ONE name opponent ... Fight Lara!
Did you see the Martirosyan fight??? ... GGG would destroy Martirosyan in 2 rounds if no a lot faster... GGG has never lost more than a round in any fight... Lara lost 4 rounds to this unskilled punching bag... To get a Golovkin Fight he'd have to move up like Canelo did and fight a Middleweight.
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Kalan wrote:
bnovelist wrote:How arrogant of him and Abel...He hasn't fought ONE name opponent ... Fight Lara!
Did you see the Martirosyan fight??? ... GGG would destroy Martirosyan in 2 rounds if no a lot faster... GGG has never lost more than a round in any fight... Lara lost 4 rounds to this unskilled punching bag... To get a Golovkin Fight he'd have to move up like Canelo did and fight a Middleweight.
Stfu, Marti fought very well tonight. He is a skilled professional with good heart. He deserves respect.
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Tanzio wrote:
Kalan wrote:
bnovelist wrote:How arrogant of him and Abel...He hasn't fought ONE name opponent ... Fight Lara!
Did you see the Martirosyan fight??? ... GGG would destroy Martirosyan in 2 rounds if no a lot faster... GGG has never lost more than a round in any fight... Lara lost 4 rounds to this unskilled punching bag... To get a Golovkin Fight he'd have to move up like Canelo did and fight a Middleweight.
Stfu, Marti fought very well tonight. He is a skilled professional with good heart. He deserves respect.
Tanzio coming in with truth bombs!
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Its all really simple children , just sit back and learn,, Theres a fella called GGG who is the champion of the world at 160,,, He has repetedly said he will not lose weight to defend or go for another 160 belt ,, Now at 160 the three big names are Chickenheart Canelo ,,, Jacobs , and BJS ,,, ...

Now Chickenheart after asking and being allowed to fight others FIRST, and give GGG a fight LATER. then gave his belt up rather than fight GGG . ,,,, so he's out of the picture now

Jacobs well he has activly ducked GGG ,, and definetly does'nt seem to have any interest in wanting to fight GGG and win some belts ,,,,,so he's out the picture

BJS ,,, Now he gives interviews where he says GGG would beat me and Eubanks on the same night ,,, he then gives another interview saying if he had to fight GGG he would , but up to now has not give any iclination he wants the fight ,and does'nt seem to want it,, so he's out the picture

Then you have Ward , he wants some publicity so calls out GGG , but wants GGG to pile weight on and fight him at a disadvantage.

Then you have Lara , he mutters about fighting him but realisticly is too small but he gets publicity and i suppose if he does want to put on some weight , GGG will be happy to ko him and grab a nice cheque for his trouble

Now you have the idiot Eubanks sprouting he wants to fight him , but first he has to ko some easybeat they found for him , but heh it got everyone taliking about him prior to his up coming mismatch

All in all poor old GGG has been dressed for the ball , for a long time and nobody wants to dance with him . Only people willing have been guys who done it for a biggish payday , and the hope that they land a lucky punch .
GGG will probably go down in history has the most ducked fighter ever seen ,
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bnovelist wrote:How arrogant of him and Abel...He hasn't fought ONE name opponent and he feels he deserves a Canelo payday? Fight Lara!
you are amazingly consistent in creating
threads like this one.
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crusader wrote:I think Lara would be far too gun-shy to make it an interesting fight.

thats true, but ggg needs to figure out the puzzle. he would be interresting to see how ggg handles a elite guy. not koing a c level guy in 2 rounds.
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dberry wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Good examples except Khan. Khan was cherry picked by Canelo which is the only reason Canelo fought him. The rest smaller men you mentioned are STARS. Stars can call out somebody from a higher weight and expect a positive response. Lara is not even close to being a star. He isn't even universally accepted as a best SWW. Also, Lara has never really been serious about fighting GGG. Nobody from his team ever contacted Loefler. I bet if they did before the Monroe fight was signed, they would be considered. Of course Lara wouldn't take precedence over Rubio (allowed Golovkin to become WBC mandatory), Murray (one of top middleweights), Lemieux (unification) or Wade (mandatory). For similar reasons, neither will he have preference over Saunders, Jacobs or even Eubank Jr. In order to get in front of guys like that, he needs to establish himself at MW.
Exactly. Stars can call the shots and move up and get a crack at a title in their first fight at the weight, but someone like Lara who doesn't bring in any money and has no name recognition among casual boxing fans doesn't deserve anything. Let him earn his shot at the weight. Beat someone good at 160 and then maybe you can start requesting a title shot, until then shut the hell up.
Well, Lara earned a shot today, mate, a shot against Usain Bolt!

when floyd was doing it, it was called master technician, defensve specialist

when lara does the same, its called what it is boring running

to me both are boring runners.
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Chepppaaa wrote:
dberry wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:
Exactly. Stars can call the shots and move up and get a crack at a title in their first fight at the weight, but someone like Lara who doesn't bring in any money and has no name recognition among casual boxing fans doesn't deserve anything. Let him earn his shot at the weight. Beat someone good at 160 and then maybe you can start requesting a title shot, until then shut the hell up.
Well, Lara earned a shot today, mate, a shot against Usain Bolt!

when floyd was doing it, it was called master technician, defensve specialist

when lara does the same, its called what it is boring running

to me both are boring runners.
Yeah, when Floyd started that crap I never called him a master technician, he lost me totally, I do agree with you here.
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Badhusker wrote:Ok I understand now.......you have to be relevant and established at the weight to earn a shot at a big fight. I wondered how someone like Khan and many others did it.
You aren't the brightest candle on the cake. :brick:

Khan did nothing to earn a shot against anyone north of 147

So most of us criticised that match heavily, and rightly so.
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Chepppaaa wrote:
crusader wrote:I think Lara would be far too gun-shy to make it an interesting fight.

thats true, but ggg needs to figure out the puzzle. he would be interresting to see how ggg handles a elite guy. not koing a c level guy in 2 rounds.
If GGG landed 1/4 of liver shots Vanes landed yesterday, Lara would be laying on canvas and not getting up.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
crusader wrote:I think Lara would be far too gun-shy to make it an interesting fight.

thats true, but ggg needs to figure out the puzzle. he would be interresting to see how ggg handles a elite guy. not koing a c level guy in 2 rounds.
If GGG landed 1/4 of liver shots Vanes landed yesterday, Lara would be laying on canvas and not getting up.
true. but at least the fight would last longer than 8 rds
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