Parker vs Takam UK time?

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lefty wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:Duco Sport already publicly stating Joshua is next!
I'm sure he has to fight Pulev next.
That's what I hear too but if that's the case Duco Sport are liable for false advertising or something or rather. Here in NZ it's heavily advertised Joshua for the IBF. I don't know though. Look up stuff nz regarding Parkers win, they saying Joshua next!
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Fairly average fight. Bar the 8th it was rather dull.

Parker was good in bursts maybe his conditioning let him down. He gets the win I think Pulev will Fraustrate him too. He likes to hit and hold which is great to watch :D
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ShadrachSimmo wrote:Fairly average fight. Bar the 8th it was rather dull.

Parker was good in bursts maybe his conditioning let him down. He gets the win I think Pulev will Fraustrate him too. He likes to hit and hold which is great to watch :D
Some people are difficult to please. More interesting than most heavyweight fights.
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Post by TheLeprechaun »

For a 19th fight it was a pretty good fight for Parker to take.

Great learning fight for him too. He will know that his defence is very much lacking at top level. More head movement and getting the hands up to block shots as he is moving away is not really going to take that long learn at 24. He will improve defensively for this fight. I'm not saying he will be Pernell Whitaker or anything but simple adjustments can make him a better fighter.

I'd match him with Pulev now. Thats a very winnable fight for him. I have a feeling they might go after Chisora though. Both fights are winnable. I think he beats loudmouth Whyte too.

He has the heart I think, showed a solid chin too. He's not great, but in this division he has a live shot against any one of the top dogs. I would not be surprised if he beat Wilder/Fury or Klitschko. Are their chins as good as Takams? We only saw glimpses of it but I think Parker hits hard too.

I'd probably make all those 3 slight favourites over Parker at the moment. But if he comes in against Pulev next and shows some improved defence and other improvements, then I'll give him more of a chance. Needs to work on his jab too.
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lefty wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:Duco Sport already publicly stating Joshua is next!
I'm sure he has to fight Pulev next.
Such a lack of available contenders it's a shame one of them has to be eliminated, Joshua could meet Pulev after Breezy then face Parker early 2017.
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On the basis of the fight today, I think Takam smokes all of Joshua's opponents aside from Whyte, as he's an "unknown quantity" to quote Matchroom. I think it was a great learning fight, he got chinned a lot but showed that he had spirit and a good chin because Takam is one strong dude. Why can't we get fighters like Takam in with AJ who will pressure for the majority of the fight. Breazeale will get chinned within 2 rounds and doesn't have the power to stop Joshua, such a pointless fight. Parker would have learned more in his fight with Takam than Joshua has learnt in all of his fights IMO.
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JamesCollinson1 wrote:On the basis of the fight today, I think Takam smokes all of Joshua's opponents aside from Whyte, as he's an "unknown quantity" to quote Matchroom. I think it was a great learning fight, he got chinned a lot but showed that he had spirit and a good chin because Takam is one strong dude. Why can't we get fighters like Takam in with AJ who will pressure for the majority of the fight. Breazeale will get chinned within 2 rounds and doesn't have the power to stop Joshua, such a pointless fight. Parker would have learned more in his fight with Takam than Joshua has learnt in all of his fights IMO.
I still think Martin is a better fighter than the Joshua fight showed. Hopefully he'll prove me right down the line lol. I agree though with your overall statement.
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Seven Tapered Knives wrote:
lefty wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:Duco Sport already publicly stating Joshua is next!
I'm sure he has to fight Pulev next.
Such a lack of available contenders it's a shame one of them has to be eliminated, Joshua could meet Pulev after Breezy then face Parker early 2017.
True. I'd still look forward to watching Parker- Pulev lol. Intriguing sort of fight.
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Just caught up with this one. Enjoyable fight, Parker just about deserved the win, but I think Takam would actually give Joshua a tougher fight.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Just caught up with this one. Enjoyable fight, Parker just about deserved the win, but I think Takam would actually give Joshua a tougher fight.
Agree with that; Parker is all offence and I think Joshua would win that shoot out.

If Takem threw more he'd be a scary dude. He reminded me a bit of Chisora though, pressure but without enough punches (although I didn't see the whole fight).
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J-C wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Just caught up with this one. Enjoyable fight, Parker just about deserved the win, but I think Takam would actually give Joshua a tougher fight.
Agree with that; Parker is all offence and I think Joshua would win that shoot out.

If Takem threw more he'd be a scary dude. He reminded me a bit of Chisora though, pressure but without enough punches (although I didn't see the whole fight).
Bit more varied than chisora aswell I think. He can box on the front or back foot.
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Tuan_Jim wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
That's not how it works.
Then how does it work? Perez, Thompson, Povetkin, nobody has ever stopped him within 6 rounds, not even close in fact.
Bloody hell mate. Using your logic Lennox Lewis could never have bombed out Razor Ruddock in 2, among a million other examples through boxing history. Sharpen up your instrument, man!
Come on everybody understand Parker can't KO Takam within 6...
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foxdog1923 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Have you seen Takam's style? Parker will probably have more trouble with him because of his style alone already, even if he was a middleweight?!
Yeah I've seen him a few times. Parker has fast hands and hits hard so Takam has plenty to worry about himself. Parker is quicker than anyone Takam has faced. Maybe Parker will unravel because this is his first solid test but I think he'll find Takam easy enough to hit and I can't see Takam being able to stand up to his attacks beyond 6 rounds. I could be wrong but that's my prediction. Watched the weigh in earlier and Takam looked in fantastic shape so he's over there to win. I'm looking forward to an exciting fight.
Asdfjkl is a little kid. Some other poster that was debating an issue with him, mentioned that there should be age restrictions on our forum insinuating asdfjkl was a minor. Doesn't get the most simplest of things sometimes.

Anyway go Parker!!
Some people don't like it when they realise they are wrong and they they change the subject in bullshit like calling me a little kid. Most of the time, the avarage dog is already more intelligent as such creatures are. No matter how much incest the dog has in his blood.
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TBH I'm impressed by Parker, I expected and predicted just about this to happen.
I knew 4 times your money back if Takam wins was a very nice risk/reward.
I already said it was a 55/45 fight with Parker having the odds, I secretly hoped Takam to win, not because I have anything against Parker, but because I would have loved it to see the bookies losing.
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I had Parker winning 116-113

His defense was the most apparent flaw coming into the bout and it proved to be the most pronounced flaw he showed during it; he'll need to tighten that up as he moves further up the levels and as he faces bigger punchers. JP's still very young for a HW (7 years younger than Wilder/4 younger than Fury/about 2.5 younger than AJ) and with time I expect him to get better. Takam also represented a massive step up in class, having been level with Povetkin going into the 9th, giving unbeaten Perez hell, and dominating Thompson, and Parker will probably take far more from this bout than he did from any of his others.

For now I'd put him on in the same grouping as fighters like Pulev and Jennings, but below the likes of Fury, Ortiz, Wilder, and AJ.
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crusader wrote:I had Parker winning 116-113

His defense was the most apparent flaw coming into the bout and it proved to be the most pronounced flaw he showed during it; he'll need to tighten that up as he moves further up the levels and as he faces bigger punchers. JP's still very young for a HW (7 years younger than Wilder/4 younger than Fury/about 2.5 younger than AJ) and with time I expect him to get better. Takam also represented a massive step up in class, having been level with Povetkin going into the 9th, giving unbeaten Perez hell, and dominating Thompson, and Parker will probably take far more from this bout than he did from any of his others.

For now I'd put him on in the same grouping as fighters like Pulev and Jennings, but below the likes of Fury, Ortiz, Wilder, and AJ.
I think his stamina was a bit concerning aswell.
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I think Joshua gets hit with the shots Parker took and AJ crumbles .. Tarkin was a lot better than anything Joshua has fought .. and if Joshua does'nt stop Parker he gets beat ... Parker was gassed , on that we will all agree , but he dug deep and came home the stronger , and right up to the end he still had fast hands and a decent dig .. I was impressed in his step up .

and too be honest lets have it right , the heavyweight scene is'nt to great at the moment .
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coneye wrote:I think Joshua gets hit with the shots Parker took and AJ crumbles .. Tarkin was a lot better than anything Joshua has fought .. and if Joshua does'nt stop Parker he gets beat ... Parker was gassed , on that we will all agree , but he dug deep and came home the stronger , and right up to the end he still had fast hands and a decent dig .. I was impressed in his step up .

and too be honest lets have it right , the heavyweight scene is'nt to great at the moment .
Introducing:

Tarkin and the Misplaced Apostrophes

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coneye wrote:I think Joshua gets hit with the shots Parker took and AJ crumbles .. Tarkin was a lot better than anything Joshua has fought .. and if Joshua does'nt stop Parker he gets beat ... Parker was gassed , on that we will all agree , but he dug deep and came home the stronger , and right up to the end he still had fast hands and a decent dig .. I was impressed in his step up .

and too be honest lets have it right , the heavyweight scene is'nt to great at the moment .
For me Parker and Whyte are about equal, Takam is just a fraction less good as they are.

The styles somehow are completely differend Whyte is like a ² of Takam, even less good in winning rounds, hitting even harder, taking even more of a beat before finally going down.
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Seven Tapered Knives wrote:
coneye wrote:I think Joshua gets hit with the shots Parker took and AJ crumbles .. Tarkin was a lot better than anything Joshua has fought .. and if Joshua does'nt stop Parker he gets beat ... Parker was gassed , on that we will all agree , but he dug deep and came home the stronger , and right up to the end he still had fast hands and a decent dig .. I was impressed in his step up .

and too be honest lets have it right , the heavyweight scene is'nt to great at the moment .
Introducing:

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:clap:
Very good name for some kind of thrash metal/hardcore band...
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ShadrachSimmo wrote:Very good name for some kind of thrash metal/hardcore band...
:lol:
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asdfjkl wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Then how does it work? Perez, Thompson, Povetkin, nobody has ever stopped him within 6 rounds, not even close in fact.
Bloody hell mate. Using your logic Lennox Lewis could never have bombed out Razor Ruddock in 2, among a million other examples through boxing history. Sharpen up your instrument, man!
Come on everybody understand Parker can't KO Takam within 6...
I made a prediction and I got it wrong. So what? I don't want to know anything? You Re awful? I got it wroung? So what?
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Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:
Bloody hell mate. Using your logic Lennox Lewis could never have bombed out Razor Ruddock in 2, among a million other examples through boxing history. Sharpen up your instrument, man!
Come on everybody understand Parker can't KO Takam within 6...
I made a prediction and I got it wrong. So what? I don't want to know anything? You Re awful? I got it wroung? So what?
Well at least you said one thing right, he clearly made a statement, beating Takam isn't a task just anyone can do.
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asdfjkl wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Come on everybody understand Parker can't KO Takam within 6...
I made a prediction and I got it wrong. So what? I don't want to know anything? You Re awful? I got it wroung? So what?
Well at least you said one thing right, he clearly made a statement, beating Takam isn't a task just anyone can do.
Is what it is?
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asdfjkl wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Yeah I've seen him a few times. Parker has fast hands and hits hard so Takam has plenty to worry about himself. Parker is quicker than anyone Takam has faced. Maybe Parker will unravel because this is his first solid test but I think he'll find Takam easy enough to hit and I can't see Takam being able to stand up to his attacks beyond 6 rounds. I could be wrong but that's my prediction. Watched the weigh in earlier and Takam looked in fantastic shape so he's over there to win. I'm looking forward to an exciting fight.
Asdfjkl is a little kid. Some other poster that was debating an issue with him, mentioned that there should be age restrictions on our forum insinuating asdfjkl was a minor. Doesn't get the most simplest of things sometimes.

Anyway go Parker!!
Some people don't like it when they realise they are wrong and they they change the subject in bullshit like calling me a little kid. Most of the time, the avarage dog is already more intelligent as such creatures are. No matter how much incest the dog has in his blood.
Oh your posts are that of a 10yr old so that's not changing for me.

You were going for Takam. I was going for Parker, that's the truth. Who won?

I'll give you your credit about it going the distance so well called. That I'm gutted about.

How many fights has Whyte had compared to Takam? Who's the highest ranked EXPERIENCED fighter Whyte has BEATEN? Asking these questions of Whyte cos these ARE the questions that were asked of Parker.
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