POVETKIN DID NOT FAIL HIS DRUG TEST

[asdfjkl]

I know meldonium can take months in some cases to leave your system but Povetkin and his team knew last September that this substance was going on the banned list so why the hell would you continue to take it if he's clean? ... I find PED usage in our sport abhorrent and anyone proven beyond doubt to be cheating should be banned for life. This will go some way to putting an end to this kind of cheating

You're another idiot There is no "this kind of cheating" going on. Povetkin never failed ANY test. Why is he being portrayed as a drug cheat when he DIDN'T cheat? Nobody is coming out and saying Povetkin tested above the allowable concentrations. They're not talking about that. They're using innuendo. They're saying he has traces of Meldonium in his system and implying that's proof positive he's a cheat. They want to brand Povetkin as a steroid freak and destroy his career. Get rid of his mandatory status. Destroy Russia and Russian promoters so they can't outbid them for future World Heavyweight Championship Fights and deprive American promoters of 100's of millions of dollars. Do they want them to get the Joshua fight? The Fury fight? Povetkin has a negligible trace amount of Meldonium in his system that is 15 X LOWER than the allowable concentration. Maybe you have too. You just haven't taken a super sensitive drug test that finds you have .000005 ppm of Meldonium in your system. You drug cheat.

You're the one that comes across as an idiot I'm afraid. You're coming out with all these 'facts' but no source. I have read official statements from both WADA and the WBC saying that Povetkin HAS failed a drugs test. If you have an other source other than that of the word of Povetkins promoter (who stands to lose a few quid with the cancellation) then I'd be interested to read it. I can only go by what I have read and the fact it the fight is off. Do you have some other explanation as to why the fight is off? Maybe Wilder didn't want the 4.5 million he was being paid?

Now you're calling me a drug cheat? I'm just a man on a boxing forum that you don't know from Adam. You seem confused. Perhaps you should stick to black and white facts and try to avoid veering off course with fabricated, unfounded 'facts'. Until you give me a credible source then all I can do assume you're talking complete and utter guff. Good day to you.

Show me, then Povetkin can bring both Wada, as well as WBC to court, Povetkin would win that easely.

[Ilya Muromets]

"Show me, then Povetkin can bring both Wada, as well as WBC to court, Povetkin would win that easely."


Big question is what court? A court in the USSA? In Las Vegas?

[asdfjkl]

"Show me, then Povetkin can bring both Wada, as well as WBC to court, Povetkin would win that easely."


Big question is what court? A court in the USSA? In Las Vegas?

Even then, Povetkin has quite a chance.

[flem1]

"Show me, then Povetkin can bring both Wada, as well as WBC to court, Povetkin would win that easely."


Big question is what court? A court in the USSA? In Las Vegas?

Even then, Povetkin has quite a chance.

How on earth does Povetkin have a chance since he is the one who failed the VADA drug test?

[asdfjkl]

"Show me, then Povetkin can bring both Wada, as well as WBC to court, Povetkin would win that easely."


Big question is what court? A court in the USSA? In Las Vegas?

Even then, Povetkin has quite a chance.

How on earth does Povetkin have a chance since he is the one who failed the VADA drug test?

Since he didn't fail it?...

[Kalan]

I know meldonium can take months in some cases to leave your system but Povetkin and his team knew last September that this substance was going on the banned list so why the hell would you continue to take it if he's clean? ... I find PED usage in our sport abhorrent and anyone proven beyond doubt to be cheating should be banned for life. This will go some way to putting an end to this kind of cheating

You're another idiot There is no "this kind of cheating" going on. Povetkin never failed ANY test. Why is he being portrayed as a drug cheat when he DIDN'T cheat? Nobody is coming out and saying Povetkin tested above the allowable concentrations. They're not talking about that. They're using innuendo. They're saying he has traces of Meldonium in his system and implying that's proof positive he's a cheat. They want to brand Povetkin as a steroid freak and destroy his career. Get rid of his mandatory status. Destroy Russia and Russian promoters so they can't outbid them for future World Heavyweight Championship Fights and deprive American promoters of 100's of millions of dollars. Do they want them to get the Joshua fight? The Fury fight? Povetkin has a negligible trace amount of Meldonium in his system that is 15 X LOWER than the allowable concentration. Maybe you have too. You just haven't taken a super sensitive drug test that finds you have .000005 ppm of Meldonium in your system. You drug cheat.

You're the one that comes across as an idiot I'm afraid. You're coming out with all these 'facts' but no source. I have read official statements from both WADA and the WBC saying that Povetkin HAS failed a drugs test. If you have an other source other than that of the word of Povetkins promoter (who stands to lose a few quid with the cancellation) then I'd be interested to read it. I can only go by what I have read and the fact it the fight is off. Do you have some other explanation as to why the fight is off? Maybe Wilder didn't want the 4.5 million he was being paid?

Now you're calling me a drug cheat? I'm just a man on a boxing forum that you don't know from Adam. You seem confused. Perhaps you should stick to black and white facts and try to avoid veering off course with fabricated, unfounded 'facts'. Until you give me a credible source then all I can do assume you're talking complete and utter guff. Good day to you.

You BLITHERING IDIOT!!! I was being sarcastic. If Povetkin is a drug cheat so are you. You probably have a trace of some banned substance that's way below the allowable limit - just from drinking "vitamin water", eating beef or chicken in restaurants that were fed steroids, or eating processed foods that were somehow mildly contaminated. Something you consumed could easily give you a trace amount of something. But if it's BELOW the allowable concentration will anybody be concerned about it???? HELL NO!!!! Unless some corrupt bastards were trying to destroy your reputation by any means necessary and were spreading money around to VADA and the WBC. Then you'd be another innocent victim like Povetkin.

[Ilya Muromets]

Exactly. What Kalan said. Not to mention vitamins and minerals and CREATINE and other stuff sold over the counter here, and herbs and minerals and spices and prescription drugs and energy drinks - and then Doc Goodman can show up with her little Las Vegas NeVADA drug testing kit and find whatever she wants to find!

[Ilya Muromets]

Russia should make boxing real and pull out of all the western alphabet things - start something new with China - and let them keep their phony cartoon champions in the USSA and USSK, the Briggs and Hayes and Wilders, and Doctor Goodman and her Las Vegas NeVADA drug testing kit.

[flem1]

Even then, Povetkin has quite a chance.

How on earth does Povetkin have a chance since he is the one who failed the VADA drug test?

Since he didn't fail it?...

Ummm he did fail

[Kalan]

How on earth does Povetkin have a chance since he is the one who failed the VADA drug test?

Since he didn't fail it?...

Ummm he did fail

Always some stupid idiot saying "He did fail" "He did fail" ... Where's the proof??? Show me the actual test result that had him testing above the allowable concentrations for any banned substance or shut your yap.

[asdfjkl]

Since he didn't fail it?...

Ummm he did fail

Always some stupid idiot saying "He did fail" "He did fail" ... Where's the proof??? Show me the actual test result that had him testing above the allowable concentrations for any banned substance or shut your yap.

As far as I know he had 0.070ug/ml left in his pee, while till 1 march 15ug/ml was allowed, in other words, this is just the final traces left in his body, he will allways keep some of this in his body.

[Stuarty]

You're another idiot There is no "this kind of cheating" going on. Povetkin never failed ANY test. Why is he being portrayed as a drug cheat when he DIDN'T cheat? Nobody is coming out and saying Povetkin tested above the allowable concentrations. They're not talking about that. They're using innuendo. They're saying he has traces of Meldonium in his system and implying that's proof positive he's a cheat. They want to brand Povetkin as a steroid freak and destroy his career. Get rid of his mandatory status. Destroy Russia and Russian promoters so they can't outbid them for future World Heavyweight Championship Fights and deprive American promoters of 100's of millions of dollars. Do they want them to get the Joshua fight? The Fury fight? Povetkin has a negligible trace amount of Meldonium in his system that is 15 X LOWER than the allowable concentration. Maybe you have too. You just haven't taken a super sensitive drug test that finds you have .000005 ppm of Meldonium in your system. You drug cheat.

You're the one that comes across as an idiot I'm afraid. You're coming out with all these 'facts' but no source. I have read official statements from both WADA and the WBC saying that Povetkin HAS failed a drugs test. If you have an other source other than that of the word of Povetkins promoter (who stands to lose a few quid with the cancellation) then I'd be interested to read it. I can only go by what I have read and the fact it the fight is off. Do you have some other explanation as to why the fight is off? Maybe Wilder didn't want the 4.5 million he was being paid?

Now you're calling me a drug cheat? I'm just a man on a boxing forum that you don't know from Adam. You seem confused. Perhaps you should stick to black and white facts and try to avoid veering off course with fabricated, unfounded 'facts'. Until you give me a credible source then all I can do assume you're talking complete and utter guff. Good day to you.

You BLITHERING IDIOT!!! I was being sarcastic. If Povetkin is a drug cheat so are you. You probably have a trace of some banned substance that's way below the allowable limit - just from drinking "vitamin water", eating beef or chicken in restaurants that were fed steroids, or eating processed foods that were somehow mildly contaminated. Something you consumed could easily give you a trace amount of something. But if it's BELOW the allowable concentration will anybody be concerned about it???? HELL NO!!!! Unless some corrupt bastards were trying to destroy your reputation by any means necessary and were spreading money around to VADA and the WBC. Then you'd be another innocent victim like Povetkin.

Steroid chicken! You're a fuckin bell end mate

Stay away from the chicken Alexander what a fanny

[flem1]

Since he didn't fail it?...

Ummm he did fail

Always some stupid idiot saying "He did fail" "He did fail" ... Where's the proof??? Show me the actual test result that had him testing above the allowable concentrations for any banned substance or shut your yap.

I guess WBC and VADA are stupid idiots for announcing Povetkin failed

I'm not buying Ryabinski's words about the amount of meldonium Pov has in his system.

I'd rather hear it from VADA and WBC. As it stands, Povetkin failed and he is a cheat

[flem1]

Ummm he did fail

Always some stupid idiot saying "He did fail" "He did fail" ... Where's the proof??? Show me the actual test result that had him testing above the allowable concentrations for any banned substance or shut your yap.

As far as I know he had 0.070ug/ml left in his pee, while till 1 march 15ug/ml was allowed, in other words, this is just the final traces left in his body, he will allways keep some of this in his body.

Again, that figure came Ryabinski and not officially from WBC or VADA

Povetkin and his team need to explain the 3 previous negative tests while the 4th one came out positive.

So officially, Povetkin is a cheat

[asdfjkl]

Always some stupid idiot saying "He did fail" "He did fail" ... Where's the proof??? Show me the actual test result that had him testing above the allowable concentrations for any banned substance or shut your yap.

As far as I know he had 0.070ug/ml left in his pee, while till 1 march 15ug/ml was allowed, in other words, this is just the final traces left in his body, he will allways keep some of this in his body.

Again, that figure came Ryabinski and not officially from WBC or VADA

Povetkin and his team need to explain the 3 previous negative tests while the 4th one came out positive.

So officially, Povetkin is a cheat

Oh yea, officially from the WBC of VADA I haven't seen any negative test from Wilder in his entire life, I'm not even sure if he's tested at all, perhaps you should take a look at that as well :S.

[flem1]

As far as I know he had 0.070ug/ml left in his pee, while till 1 march 15ug/ml was allowed, in other words, this is just the final traces left in his body, he will allways keep some of this in his body.

Again, that figure came Ryabinski and not officially from WBC or VADA

Povetkin and his team need to explain the 3 previous negative tests while the 4th one came out positive.

So officially, Povetkin is a cheat

Oh yea, officially from the WBC of VADA I haven't seen any negative test from Wilder in his entire life, I'm not even sure if he's tested at all, perhaps you should take a look at that as well :S.

Both fighters were tested and had agreed to be tested by VADA. Only Povetkin is caught with PEDS

[asdfjkl]

Again, that figure came Ryabinski and not officially from WBC or VADA

Povetkin and his team need to explain the 3 previous negative tests while the 4th one came out positive.

So officially, Povetkin is a cheat

Oh yea, officially from the WBC of VADA I haven't seen any negative test from Wilder in his entire life, I'm not even sure if he's tested at all, perhaps you should take a look at that as well :S.

Both fighters were tested and had agreed to be tested by VADA. Only Povetkin is caught with PEDS

But as far as I know he wasn't caught at all, because we already knew this back in 2015 and stopped taking it once it wasn't allowed any more?
I still haven't seen any negative testresults from Wilder and he was clearly looking for an excuse to sneak out while Povetkin did and does everything he can to make this fight happen when he's fighting.

[armageto]

Browsing thru some of these posts is comical. Povetkin got caught with his hand in the cookie jaw. Of course his promoter and people in his camp are going to be spin doctors now. The man got caught, deal with it. There is no conspiracy against him. I doubted Wilder would take this fight, but he did, and went thru with it every step of the way. Povetkin has nobody but himself to blame.

[asdfjkl]

Browsing thru some of these posts is comical. Povetkin got caught with his hand in the cookie jaw. Of course his promoter and people in his camp are going to be spin doctors now. The man got caught, deal with it. There is no conspiracy against him. I doubted Wilder would take this fight, but he did, and went thru with it every step of the way. Povetkin has nobody but himself to blame.

It's not just his promotors, it's pretty much everybody who knows what they are talking about and at the same moment it's also clear how many people don't know what they are talking about.

[flem1]

Browsing thru some of these posts is comical. Povetkin got caught with his hand in the cookie jaw. Of course his promoter and people in his camp are going to be spin doctors now. The man got caught, deal with it. There is no conspiracy against him. I doubted Wilder would take this fight, but he did, and went thru with it every step of the way. Povetkin has nobody but himself to blame.

It's not just his promotors, it's pretty much everybody who knows what they are talking about and at the same moment it's also clear how many people don't know what they are talking about.

Yes. You clearly don't know what you are talking about

As it stands, Povetkin is a cheater.

[armageto]

Browsing thru some of these posts is comical. Povetkin got caught with his hand in the cookie jaw. Of course his promoter and people in his camp are going to be spin doctors now. The man got caught, deal with it. There is no conspiracy against him. I doubted Wilder would take this fight, but he did, and went thru with it every step of the way. Povetkin has nobody but himself to blame.

It's not just his promotors, it's pretty much everybody who knows what they are talking about and at the same moment it's also clear how many people don't know what they are talking about.

OK, so show me a link to someone that is an expert in these issues, that backs what Povetkin's team is stating. A doctor, an accredited drug tester, something, someone. All I've seen is Povetkin's team and people on here backing him up. We all know if Wilder failed his test and Povetkin didn't, you guys would be burying Wilder on this forum.

[asdfjkl]

Browsing thru some of these posts is comical. Povetkin got caught with his hand in the cookie jaw. Of course his promoter and people in his camp are going to be spin doctors now. The man got caught, deal with it. There is no conspiracy against him. I doubted Wilder would take this fight, but he did, and went thru with it every step of the way. Povetkin has nobody but himself to blame.

It's not just his promotors, it's pretty much everybody who knows what they are talking about and at the same moment it's also clear how many people don't know what they are talking about.

Yes. You clearly don't know what you are talking about

As it stands, Povetkin is a cheater.

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

[flem1]

It's not just his promotors, it's pretty much everybody who knows what they are talking about and at the same moment it's also clear how many people don't know what they are talking about.

Yes. You clearly don't know what you are talking about

As it stands, Povetkin is a cheater.

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

[asdfjkl]

Yes. You clearly don't know what you are talking about

As it stands, Povetkin is a cheater.

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Wada proved Povetkin right actually, just watch the papers, their own papers.

[flem1]

You're wrong, just watch the papers.

WBC and VADA proved you wrong.

Wada proved Povetkin right actually, just watch the papers, their own papers.

Gotta love these Povetkin apologists.