POVETKIN DID NOT FAIL HIS DRUG TEST

[G.McClellan]

I hate when the authorities chop and change which drugs are and aren't performance enhancing. It's like they're trying to create drug cheats out of honest athletes.

Hopefully Povetkin will challenge the findings and reschedule the Wilder bout.

[asdfjkl]

Again, only Ryanbinski provided the .70 mcg figure. We have yet to hear the true amount that VADA found. WBC found enough reason to postpone the fight though.

So as of now, Povetkin is a cheater

So because Wilder and the WBC work together you now act like you don't believe the 0.070 number?

Care to explain how WBC and Wilder are working together?

I'm not believing Ryanbinsk's mouth until we get a full report from WBC's investigation.

You have to remember Ryanbinski was so convinced that Durodola was on PEDs when he KOd Khudryashov but it got him nowhere because RUSADA is unreliable

You think Wilder gives, from all people he can chose out, exactly the president of the WBC nice little presents?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj5RScectU0

Yea, blame Qatar for giving money to a bunch of local footballpresidents who had a vote in where the world championships are getting played.

[armageto]

So the WBC and Wilder are working together to keep his belt and bring down Russian boxing? This is past the point of idiotic. The fight had the right to be cancelled for the moment until further investigating could be done. I'm not even a Wilder fan, but the man did nothing wrong and isn't the one to blame for the fight getting cancelled or rescheduled.

[flem1]

So because Wilder and the WBC work together you now act like you don't believe the 0.070 number?

Care to explain how WBC and Wilder are working together?

I'm not believing Ryanbinsk's mouth until we get a full report from WBC's investigation.

You have to remember Ryanbinski was so convinced that Durodola was on PEDs when he KOd Khudryashov but it got him nowhere because RUSADA is unreliable

You think Wilder gives, from all people he can chose out, exactly the president of the WBC nice little presents?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj5RScectU0

Yea, blame Qatar for giving money to a bunch of local footballpresidents who had a vote in where the world championships are getting played.

That's it?

This is just idiotic

[asdfjkl]

Care to explain how WBC and Wilder are working together?

I'm not believing Ryanbinsk's mouth until we get a full report from WBC's investigation.

You have to remember Ryanbinski was so convinced that Durodola was on PEDs when he KOd Khudryashov but it got him nowhere because RUSADA is unreliable

You think Wilder gives, from all people he can chose out, exactly the president of the WBC nice little presents?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj5RScectU0

Yea, blame Qatar for giving money to a bunch of local footballpresidents who had a vote in where the world championships are getting played.

That's it?

This is just idiotic

I don't have his creditcard details lol, what did you expect? Wilder can't even show Povetkin is positive and neither can any of his fans and now you demand me to explain how WBC and Wilder work together? Show me why he still has that belt? Oh yea, because they work together ofcourse.

[sucracristo]

Thanks for the link to the PDF. Very helpful.

Basically, it reads as follows (based on the test date of April):

< 1mg = Needs further investigation
>=1mg = Failed

The whole thing hinges on the concentration found in his test. Problem is neither WADA or the WBC have released the concentration levels. As far as I am aware, we have only heard about the concentration level from Povetkins' team. (Please link to another source if this is incorrect).

So really any speculation about whether he failed or didn't fail is premature. Let the WBC finish their investigation and let more facts come out.

wada's lab in cologne is supposedly going to have their excretion data in a few weeks and will
be able to set hard and fast rules on what to do with low level positive tests since jan 1/march 1.
russian ADA is supposedly not WADA compliant heading into olympics. russians should be
franticly trying to flush this crap from all their athletes right now or people will just start
calling that country meldoniumland (meldonistrana) by august. VADA uses WADA labs
and sample collection and regs so as soon as wada rules, vada will follow suit and the WBC
will rule accordingly.

[Kalan]

So the WBC and Wilder are working together to keep his belt and bring down Russian boxing? This is past the point of idiotic. The fight had the right to be cancelled for the moment until further investigating could be done. I'm not even a Wilder fan, but the man did nothing wrong and isn't the one to blame for the fight getting cancelled or rescheduled.

A fight doesn't have rights you idiot. The boxers have rights. If you past the PED tests, which Povetkin DID you have the right to compete to win the World Heavyweight Title... If they want to change the rules, they can't do so retroactively... If they want to conduct further tests and investigations to try to discredit and destroy Povetkin, they can do that after the fight... Since when is a fight held up when a boxer's concentration of a substance in his urine are 15 X below the allowable limit??? This was a very important fight for Russia and if Povetkin won the title American promoters are out not only millions from losing America's only Heavyweight Championship, They can't bid on mega-fights: Joshua-Wilder and Fury-Wilder. They were furious when a Russian promoter outbid them for Wilder-Povetkin.

Of course Wilder did nothing wrong you idiot...and neither did Povetkin... neither is at fault except Wilder for running his mouth about it. He could be sued for defamation - like Pacquiao sued Mayweather, De La Hoya, Richard Shaefer, and Golden Boy... and he won ... The party at fault here is mainly the WBC and it's officers who say Povetkin was positive for traces of Meldonium when that's PERFECTLY FINE if he's below the allowable limit. But the horrible things is implying that Povetkin is a cheat and the fight needed to be postponed. It's just sheer corruption, favoritism, and the deliberate disruption or a rival promotion - with the goal of killing the fight and keeping the title so they can do a Fury fight and maybe a Joshua fight, win those bids, and bring those fights to Las Vegas. I don't think it will work, but it might. What they've done is fraudulently besmirching Povetkin's reputation and that is despicable.

[foxdog1923]

So the WBC and Wilder are working together to keep his belt and bring down Russian boxing? This is past the point of idiotic. The fight had the right to be cancelled for the moment until further investigating could be done. I'm not even a Wilder fan, but the man did nothing wrong and isn't the one to blame for the fight getting cancelled or rescheduled.

A fight doesn't have rights you idiot. The boxers have rights. If you past the PED tests, which Povetkin DID you have the right to compete to win the World Heavyweight Title... If they want to change the rules, they can't do so retroactively... If they want to conduct further tests and investigations to try to discredit and destroy Povetkin, they can do that after the fight... Since when is a fight held up when a boxer's concentration of a substance in his urine are 15 X below the allowable limit??? This was a very important fight for Russia and if Povetkin won the title American promoters are out not only millions from losing America's only Heavyweight Championship, They can't bid on mega-fights: Joshua-Wilder and Fury-Wilder. They were furious when a Russian promoter outbid them for Wilder-Povetkin.

Of course Wilder did nothing wrong you idiot...and neither did Povetkin... neither is at fault except Wilder for running his mouth about it. He could be sued for defamation - like Pacquiao sued Mayweather, De La Hoya, Richard Shaefer, and Golden Boy... and he won ... The party at fault here is mainly the WBC and it's officers who say Povetkin was positive for traces of Meldonium when that's PERFECTLY FINE if he's below the allowable limit. But the horrible things is implying that Povetkin is a cheat and the fight needed to be postponed. It's just sheer corruption, favoritism, and the deliberate disruption or a rival promotion - with the goal of killing the fight and keeping the title so they can do a Fury fight and maybe a Joshua fight, win those bids, and bring those fights to Las Vegas. I don't think it will work, but it might. What they've done is fraudulently besmirching Povetkin's reputation and that is despicable.

Wrong as usual Kalan asdfjkl. Povetkin stuffed up the fight. Get over it Kalown.

[Badhusker]

Kalan has went off the deep end.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Kalan has went off the deep end.

Off? That nutcase only has the same depth.

[armageto]

So the WBC and Wilder are working together to keep his belt and bring down Russian boxing? This is past the point of idiotic. The fight had the right to be cancelled for the moment until further investigating could be done. I'm not even a Wilder fan, but the man did nothing wrong and isn't the one to blame for the fight getting cancelled or rescheduled.

A fight doesn't have rights you idiot. The boxers have rights. If you past the PED tests, which Povetkin DID you have the right to compete to win the World Heavyweight Title... If they want to change the rules, they can't do so retroactively... If they want to conduct further tests and investigations to try to discredit and destroy Povetkin, they can do that after the fight... Since when is a fight held up when a boxer's concentration of a substance in his urine are 15 X below the allowable limit??? This was a very important fight for Russia and if Povetkin won the title American promoters are out not only millions from losing America's only Heavyweight Championship, They can't bid on mega-fights: Joshua-Wilder and Fury-Wilder. They were furious when a Russian promoter outbid them for Wilder-Povetkin.

Of course Wilder did nothing wrong you idiot...and neither did Povetkin... neither is at fault except Wilder for running his mouth about it. He could be sued for defamation - like Pacquiao sued Mayweather, De La Hoya, Richard Shaefer, and Golden Boy... and he won ... The party at fault here is mainly the WBC and it's officers who say Povetkin was positive for traces of Meldonium when that's PERFECTLY FINE if he's below the allowable limit. But the horrible things is implying that Povetkin is a cheat and the fight needed to be postponed. It's just sheer corruption, favoritism, and the deliberate disruption or a rival promotion - with the goal of killing the fight and keeping the title so they can do a Fury fight and maybe a Joshua fight, win those bids, and bring those fights to Las Vegas. I don't think it will work, but it might. What they've done is fraudulently besmirching Povetkin's reputation and that is despicable.

The fight had every right to be canceled for the fact Povetkin had traces of an illegal substance in his system. It even states that in their ruling,
< 1mg = Needs further investigation, and that's IF he was under. There has been zero proof on his exact level of meldonium, aside what his promoter stated. Are they supposed to come out and say they cheated? Povetkin IS at fault for having some degree of meldonium in his system. This should be fairly and easy to follow and understand. No matter what you post, the fight is off for the time being. We should wait for the investigation to be done and all facts to come out, instead of ranting like Povetkin's lover....

[Kalan]

The fight had every right to be canceled for the fact Povetkin had traces of an illegal substance in his system. It even states that in their ruling,< 1mg = Needs further investigation, and that's IF he was under. There has been zero proof on his exact level of meldonium, aside what his promoter stated. Are they supposed to come out and say they cheated? Povetkin IS at fault for having some degree of meldonium in his system. This should be fairly and easy to follow and understand. No matter what you post, the fight is off for the time being. We should wait for the investigation to be done and all facts to come out, instead of ranting like Povetkin's lover

All I want is simple justice you jerk. Can you understand the concept of having 14 X LESS than the allowable trace amount of Meldonium in your sample??? Povetkin would have even passed the test EVEN if he had 14 X as much Meldonium in his system – because that amount would still be compatible with an amount present if he stopped using the recommended dosage of Meldonium on the day the public was informed that it was going on the PED list. He was using much less than the recommended dosage so he tested at the very negligible trace amount of 70 nanograms per milliliter and the allowable trace for his tests was anything under 1 microgram. There are 1000 nanogams in a microgram so he could have had 999 nanograms and still passed. I can't believe how incredibly stupid some haters are.

[foxdog1923]

The fight had every right to be canceled for the fact Povetkin had traces of an illegal substance in his system. It even states that in their ruling,< 1mg = Needs further investigation, and that's IF he was under. There has been zero proof on his exact level of meldonium, aside what his promoter stated. Are they supposed to come out and say they cheated? Povetkin IS at fault for having some degree of meldonium in his system. This should be fairly and easy to follow and understand. No matter what you post, the fight is off for the time being. We should wait for the investigation to be done and all facts to come out, instead of ranting like Povetkin's lover

All I want is simple justice you jerk. Can you understand the concept of having 14 X LESS than the allowable trace amount of Meldonium in your sample??? Povetkin would have even passed the test EVEN if he had 14 X as much Meldonium in his system – because that amount would still be compatible with an amount present if he stopped using the recommended dosage of Meldonium on the day the public was informed that it was going on the PED list. He was using much less than the recommended dosage so he tested at the very negligible trace amount of 70 nanograms per milliliter and the allowable trace for his tests was anything under 1 microgram. There are 1000 nanogams in a microgram so he could have had 999 nanograms and still passed. I can't believe how incredibly stupid some haters are.

Ok Kalown tell us why Povetkin was taking Meldonium in the first place. Explain boy..

[boxing_rocks]

WBC allowed Wilder to take a voluntary defense during the Povetkin investigation:

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/05/ ... estigation?

On May 13, 2016, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (“VADA”) reported that Mr. Povetkin’s “A” Test sample showed an adverse result for the banned substance Meldonium. That result arose in connection with an April 27, 2016, anti-doping test Mr. Povetkin underwent under the WBC Clean Boxing Program. On May 15, 2016, the WBC issued a ruling that the fight would not take place as scheduled.

In relation with Challenger’s Povetkin test result, the WBC is conducting an in-depth investigation and evaluation of the situation. Further WBC ruling(s) will be forthcoming.

In the meantime, the WBC hereby rules that in light of the fact that the bout with Challenger Povetkin did not take place as scheduled, WBC World Heavyweight Champion Deontay Wilder has the right to make a voluntary defense of his title as reasonably soon as possible.

[armageto]

The fight had every right to be canceled for the fact Povetkin had traces of an illegal substance in his system. It even states that in their ruling,< 1mg = Needs further investigation, and that's IF he was under. There has been zero proof on his exact level of meldonium, aside what his promoter stated. Are they supposed to come out and say they cheated? Povetkin IS at fault for having some degree of meldonium in his system. This should be fairly and easy to follow and understand. No matter what you post, the fight is off for the time being. We should wait for the investigation to be done and all facts to come out, instead of ranting like Povetkin's lover

All I want is simple justice you jerk. Can you understand the concept of having 14 X LESS than the allowable trace amount of Meldonium in your sample??? Povetkin would have even passed the test EVEN if he had 14 X as much Meldonium in his system – because that amount would still be compatible with an amount present if he stopped using the recommended dosage of Meldonium on the day the public was informed that it was going on the PED list. He was using much less than the recommended dosage so he tested at the very negligible trace amount of 70 nanograms per milliliter and the allowable trace for his tests was anything under 1 microgram. There are 1000 nanogams in a microgram so he could have had 999 nanograms and still passed. I can't believe how incredibly stupid some haters are.

Can you understand the concept of the only person giving the exact amount of Meldonium in his system is the promoter? Can you understand the concept of if there is no wrong doing, the match will go on as planned in a few months? Wait for the investigation to be complete. if he is found as a sued, he should face a suspension and lose his mandatory spot. If no wrong doing is found, he'll probably have his title shot before the year is out. Pretty simple really. He was found with a banned substance in his system. A substance that would have been out of his system had the last time it had entered was before it being banned, it wouldn't be there.

Again, let's see what happens at the end of the investigation. Your constant bitching about it is becoming annoying. If they fight or not, my life goes on. Nobody is "hating", just sick of all the posts with the same ramblings....

[Kalan]

Can you understand the concept of the only person giving the exact amount of Meldonium in his system is the promoter?

I can understand the concept of you being an idiot. His concentrations for his tests have been published and SHOULD be well known... They're 70 nanograms per milliliter ... He would have failed if any of his tests were 1 microgram or above - in other words 15 times his concentrations. Povetkin is a Russian so his story is being drowned out by smear, innuendo, defamation, and treachery. The American media haters are obviously going along for the ride. There's a lot of injustice in the world. After Judgment Day they'll be corrected for all eternity.

[armageto]

Kalan, or Bill, I see that you quoted my post on my alerts. However, you are now on my ignore list. So kindly go f.uck your mother. Thank you and have an awesome weekend, you retard....

[boxing_rocks]

His concentrations for his tests have been published and SHOULD be well known... They're 70 nanograms per milliliter ...

Published where? Is there any original source beside the Ryabinskiy's tweet ?

[Kalan]

Kalan, or Bill, I see that you quoted my post on my alerts. However, you are now on my ignore list. So kindly go f.uck your mother. Thank you and have an awesome weekend, you retard....

LMFAO!!! The dumbest asswipe in all creation calling somebody retarded

[Wolfgang]

So the B sample tested positive as well, according to ESPN.

Frankly, I don't get this big of a discussion. If all tests Povetkin took came back with a slight residue of the drug things would be fine. It would actually be believable that he finished taking the stuff last year - when it was still legal. I'm pretty sure we would've seen the fight last weekend like it was planned.

But the problem is: the first three tests came back clean while the fourth, almost a month after the first, did not. The level of the drug should've been higher at an earlier date, right? So I really can't believe that one of the respected labs VADA uses missed the drug thrice before finding it all of the sudden. Heck, if at least one of the earlier three would've showm traces of the stuff.. fine, Povetkin might have a case. But like this? No. And guess what? Using this stuff after January 1 is illegal, no matter how much you have im your system.

So, again, what is all the fuss about? At this point, Povetkin sure looks guilty of breaking the rules. Therefore, it was a) correct to cancel the fight and b) correct to allow Wilder a voluntary defense next. Frankly, I only see one chance for Povetkin to prove his innocence: re-test the first three samples (or open their B samples) specifically for Meldonium. If they can't find any traces, if they can be sure that there is nothing in those tests, I'm pretty convinced that Povetkin took the drug after January 1 and therefore brook Anti-Doping rules. If they do find traces, Povetkin definitely has a case and it would become much more believeable that he last took Meldonium last year.

[armageto]

Kalan, again I see your retarded self quoted me in my alerts, probably to spew your pointless bs. Once again, I can't read your posts, you are on my ignore list. They are insignificant ramblings that I won't miss. If you have one of your "witty" comebacks, guess what, I still won't see it you dick juggler.

[asdfjkl]

I'm affraid the first three samples are a bullshitstory as well. The latest one is negative and the three before probably as well. Next to that, I wouldn't be surprised if they are bloodtests. Meldonum is out of his blood now for nearly 4 months probably.

Remarkebly, I understood Wilder is planning to fight someone who's actually tested positive in a drugstest recently. If that's true, then he proves himself that he was bullshitting around Povetkin from start off.

[Kalan]

But the problem is: the first three tests came back clean while the fourth, almost a month after the first, did not ... I'm pretty convinced that Povetkin took the drug after January 1

LOOK... WTF DIFFERENCE does it MAKE if he's well hydrated and they find NO TRACE -- and if he's NOT well hydrated and they find a SMALL FRACTION of the ALLOWABLE concentration... They found 1/15th of a millionth of a milliliter in Povetkin's sample... That level would have ZERO EFFECT on his performance and they KNOW it... That amount (70 nanograms) is also WAY BELOW the concentration that might still be in his sample if he STOPPED using the drug when ALL athletes were notified that Meldonium was going on the banned list.

Wilder has been giving the WBC and officers of WBC expensive gifts... Unfortunately there's no law against it right now... This ruling insures Wilder can continue fighting the tomato cans he's been fighting and eventually get MASSIVE (30-million dollar) Money fights with Joshua or Fury... This whole smear job of saying Povetkin tested positive for Meldonium when he had such a minute quantity as to be ridiculous was a way to stop Russia from bidding on fights and for American promoters to continue to control a Heavyweight Champion.

[tiny_acres]

But the problem is: the first three tests came back clean while the fourth, almost a month after the first, did not ... I'm pretty convinced that Povetkin took the drug after January 1

LOOK... WTF DIFFERENCE does it MAKE if he's well hydrated and they find NO TRACE -- and if he's NOT well hydrated and they find a SMALL FRACTION of the ALLOWABLE concentration... They found 1/15th of a millionth of a milliliter in Povetkin's sample... That level would have ZERO EFFECT on his performance and they KNOW it... That amount (70 nanograms) is also WAY BELOW the concentration that might still be in his sample if he STOPPED using the drug when ALL athletes were notified that Meldonium was going on the banned list.

Wilder has been giving the WBC and officers of WBC expensive gifts... Unfortunately there's no law against it right now... This ruling insures Wilder can continue fighting the tomato cans he's been fighting and eventually get MASSIVE (30-million dollar) Money fights with Joshua or Fury... This whole smear job of saying Povetkin tested positive for Meldonium when he had such a minute quantity as to be ridiculous was a way to stop Russia from bidding on fights and for American promoters to continue to control a Heavyweight Champion.

I honestly have not seen anyone on this forum quote as many unverified statistics as you have.
You are quoting the team of the man who tested positive.
Until the official results are posted you are appearing to be a real nuthugger

[Freedom2013]

Can you understand the concept of the only person giving the exact amount of Meldonium in his system is the promoter?

No. read this:

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... hs--105068