http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=103423
Times might have been tough.. but who gets an 8 year old pro fights.. really.
90 pounds in his 9th fight.
Who managed this poor young lad? 9 year old PRO
Who managed this poor young lad? 9 year old PRO
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Rng Anncr
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vagabundo55
- Heavyweight
Rng Anncr wrote:THIS BUM WAS PROTECTED TO THE MAX...
HE DIDN'T FIGHT AN OPPONENT WITH A WINNING RECORD UNTIL HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD...
ALMOST 13!!!
TALK ABOUT HYPED...CODDLED AND PROTECTED...HE MAKES J.D. CHAPMAN'S PEOPLE LOOK LIKE DOWNRIGHT RISK-TAKERS...
It's possible that they don't have complete records of those fighters considering it was quite awhile back.
What a gripping story, Thanks John.
Sounds like the Nipper got busy with family life. Does Alex have memories of his grand dad? If it's something he would talk about send him to this thread.
Was the Nippers early management team Stacy Goodson's forefathers?
Ok that was a foul, one point from BoxBuzz.
Sounds like the Nipper got busy with family life. Does Alex have memories of his grand dad? If it's something he would talk about send him to this thread.
Was the Nippers early management team Stacy Goodson's forefathers?
Ok that was a foul, one point from BoxBuzz.
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Northerlander
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A lot of those 0-0 records could be simply caused by lack of historical evidence.Northerlander wrote:Nipper's opponent's record of choice: 0 - 0
Nipper's record: W 94 (25 ko's) | L 11 | D 6 | Total 112
Nipper's venue of choice: 'Paddington Baths, Paddington, London, England'
someone tell stacey and JD that it's time to relocate!
Jack Kearns and Mickey Walker didn't seem to think so, nor anyone of note from the boxing fraternity of the time... but I suppose looking back at names on an internet database at fighters you've never seen you'd know more about the fight game than them?Rng Anncr wrote:THIS BUM WAS PROTECTED TO THE MAX...
HE DIDN'T FIGHT AN OPPONENT WITH A WINNING RECORD UNTIL HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD...
ALMOST 13!!!
TALK ABOUT HYPED...CODDLED AND PROTECTED...HE MAKES J.D. CHAPMAN'S PEOPLE LOOK LIKE DOWNRIGHT RISK-TAKERS...
If you had even a vague knowledge of the records on boxrec from this era you'd know that the majority of them are vastly incomplete. In reality most of his opponents had more fights than a leading fighter today will have in his entire career. The only way they get to appear on boxrec is if someone painstakingly trawls through several years worth of newspapers recording the results.
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Rng Anncr
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BrocktonBlockbuster49
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http://www.boxrec.com/media/images/5/5d ... er.Pat.jpg
the kid was pretty well built. too bad he was washed up by the age of 17, hell at 17 mike tyson the earliest bloomer i can think of hadnt even reached his prime yet.
nipper pat daly is a great example of mis management and handling someone. they should have let the kid grow, hell most of his fights were BEFORE HE HIT PUBERTY!
the kid was pretty well built. too bad he was washed up by the age of 17, hell at 17 mike tyson the earliest bloomer i can think of hadnt even reached his prime yet.
nipper pat daly is a great example of mis management and handling someone. they should have let the kid grow, hell most of his fights were BEFORE HE HIT PUBERTY!
Re: Nipper Pat Daly
Nipper Pat Daly's story is incrediable! I also feel that
he shouldn't have turned pro at eight or nine years
of age, but notice that the poor kid was going through
hell to make weight towards the end of his career,
Think about it.....Daly was only 17 when he was
washed up. At that age, most boys are growing
rapidly in terms of both weight and height.
- Chuck Johnston
he shouldn't have turned pro at eight or nine years
of age, but notice that the poor kid was going through
hell to make weight towards the end of his career,
Think about it.....Daly was only 17 when he was
washed up. At that age, most boys are growing
rapidly in terms of both weight and height.
- Chuck Johnston
Spot on. He was forced to make ridiculous weights at an age when he should have been growing rapidly. As a full grown adult he was (certainly for his day) a big man: around 5'11" and over 13 stone.Chuck1052 wrote:Nipper Pat Daly's story is incrediable! I also feel that
he shouldn't have turned pro at eight or nine years
of age, but notice that the poor kid was going through
hell to make weight towards the end of his career,
Think about it.....Daly was only 17 when he was
washed up. At that age, most boys are growing
rapidly in terms of both weight and height.
- Chuck Johnston
Had he been brought on gradually and allowed to grow into a comfortable weight class, who knows how far he could have gone. In a way he was a victim of his own talent; had he not been so good, at such a young age (able to beat the best fighters in Europe), he no doubt would never have been pushed so far, so early.
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vagabundo55
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Wilfredo Benitez was a world champ by age 17. Anyway, usually boxers who start too early are finished early as well.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/media/images/5/5d ... er.Pat.jpg
the kid was pretty well built. too bad he was washed up by the age of 17, hell at 17 mike tyson the earliest bloomer i can think of hadnt even reached his prime yet.
nipper pat daly is a great example of mis management and handling someone. they should have let the kid grow, hell most of his fights were BEFORE HE HIT PUBERTY!
Yep Sean Ogrady turned pro at 16 retired at 24. Maybe he made some dough at least.vagabundo55 wrote:Wilfredo Benitez was a world champ by age 17. Anyway, usually boxers who start too early are finished early as well.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/media/images/5/5d ... er.Pat.jpg
the kid was pretty well built. too bad he was washed up by the age of 17, hell at 17 mike tyson the earliest bloomer i can think of hadnt even reached his prime yet.
nipper pat daly is a great example of mis management and handling someone. they should have let the kid grow, hell most of his fights were BEFORE HE HIT PUBERTY!
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vagabundo55
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That's another good example but as I said, it usually happens not always... there are a few such as Morales, Barrera, etc. that don't end so quickly. I wonder why.. (probably because they face lower class competition until they're bodies are more of like that of an adult's than that of a teenager..)expug wrote:Yep Sean Ogrady turned pro at 16 retired at 24. Maybe he made some dough at least.vagabundo55 wrote:Wilfredo Benitez was a world champ by age 17. Anyway, usually boxers who start too early are finished early as well.BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:http://www.boxrec.com/media/images/5/5d ... er.Pat.jpg
the kid was pretty well built. too bad he was washed up by the age of 17, hell at 17 mike tyson the earliest bloomer i can think of hadnt even reached his prime yet.
nipper pat daly is a great example of mis management and handling someone. they should have let the kid grow, hell most of his fights were BEFORE HE HIT PUBERTY!