Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

ILikeBeer
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Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by ILikeBeer »

Though, I'm sure most of us are under the impression that PPV shouldn't exist on a Sky Sports channel that you already pay a fortune for, being that it does, is Bellew a PPV fighter now he has a title?

I kind of think Hearn will have trouble selling Bellew somehow. Firstly, there was a lot of bad press around Bellew vs Cleverly 2 being PPV. If Uncle Eddie charges people a fee for another Bellew fight, it damn sure had better be against somebody world class. Secondly, how popular is Bellew to the masses? People are getting fed up of him thinking he's the hardest man in the world. Sell well in Liverpool perhaps, but is he popular enough to be a PPV fighter.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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He's not PPV worthy but then again who is nowadays? I'd only pay to watch him on box office if he was part of a bigger 'stacked' card blah blah.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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No
Crease
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by Crease »

No.

Mostly because Bellew has only beaten 1 recognized World Champion in his entire career - and he isn't exactly a young man. Bellew is a big puncher but he is being fed boxers who are below the World-Class level.

Have a quick look at it: (Bellew's opponents who have had World Title shots - excluding Cleverly)

Masternak - lost WBA shot to Kalenga June 2014
Brudov - lost 4 World Title shots over 6 years (2006-2012)
Miranda - lost IBF Super Middle shot to Bute April 2010

The likes of Makubu, Kulikauskis, Bacurin, Dos Santos & Bolonti have never even procedded as far up the rankings to receive a shot at a World Title.
:shame:

All in all, I'd say that Bellew has met a low standard of opponent (excluding Stevenson of course)
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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No, not unless it's a rubber match with Cleverly at the Millennium Stadium :yay:
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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No, although he carries power and is a Hollywood superstar, he's far from being PPV worthy IMO.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by jamesmcdonnell »

No.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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I'd pay to see Bellew in a unification with say a Callum Smith vs. George Groves co-main.
It would have to be a stacked card...
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by bripez »

Boomer + Powah + Stadium fighter = PPV all day long

I don't think his is PPV, however that wont stop him and Eddie trying it on - I don't know the numbers but they both still say that the Clev fight did "good numbers" on PPV
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by whiskey »

I think for the right fight then yes, but not many can carry PPV on their own shoulders against opponents with weird names like makubu or Droidz etc without a big undercard fight in chief support.

That's true of Bellew and anyone else in the UK apart from Watford's Oluwafemi Olaseni.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by broomy7s »

I see Bellew more as a ppv chief support. Although next summer at Goodison vs Lebedev should he keep his belt I could see as being ppv.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Simple question. Simple answer!
NO!

He would never be able to sell his own card. He would need to fight someone with a big name, the or domestically a big fight with Haye, even then it would be Haye who attracts the buys. The Cruiserweight division is filled with European boxers, who have no star power either in the UK or USA. Ask a casual Bellew fan if he knows Lebedev?

There is no one he could possibly fight that would make me pay to watch, might be an exciting fighter, but it would need to be a stacked card. Maybe the next AJ card, but then that wouldn't be his ppv.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by Rexob »

He stepped up to the plate produced the goods, now can reap the rewards, so YES!
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by CMDY »

Against Lebedev yes.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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Crease wrote:No.

Mostly because Bellew has only beaten 1 recognized World Champion in his entire career - and he isn't exactly a young man. Bellew is a big puncher but he is being fed boxers who are below the World-Class level.

Have a quick look at it: (Bellew's opponents who have had World Title shots - excluding Cleverly)

Masternak - lost WBA shot to Kalenga June 2014
Brudov - lost 4 World Title shots over 6 years (2006-2012)
Miranda - lost IBF Super Middle shot to Bute April 2010

The likes of Makubu, Kulikauskis, Bacurin, Dos Santos & Bolonti have never even procedded as far up the rankings to receive a shot at a World Title.
:shame:

All in all, I'd say that Bellew has met a low standard of opponent (excluding Stevenson of course)
By this do you mean ex world champion ( Cleverly)
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by ThereByTheGrace »

Never in a million years
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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There's no such thing as a PPV fighter. There are PPV fights but no fighter merits his each and every contest being PPV let alone this deluded European level fighter.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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Unfortunately at his weight, in the Uk there are no PPV worthy fights available.

Only one potentially is Clev-3 but it would be such a hard sell and would require Eddie Hearn spin of epic proportions.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by Wales »

We should only pay PPV prices for the odd fight that comes along once every few years. Tyson Lewis, Floyd Pacquiao, Tyson Holyfield, Floyd Canelo... or whatever.
Somehow we've been duped into paying for standard fighters. Joshua Whyte ppv? Talk of Bellew ppv?

Crazy thing is we pay for it!
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by ILikeBeer »

PredatorHayds wrote:Unfortunately at his weight, in the Uk there are no PPV worthy fights available.

Only one potentially is Clev-3 but it would be such a hard sell and would require Eddie Hearn spin of epic proportions.
I wonder if he'd do that, after the backlash of Bellew vs Clev 2.

Knowing Eddie, he'd try.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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Naandrew wrote:By this do you mean ex world champion ( Cleverly)
Yeah and Nathan was a World Champion at Light Heavy, he was never a ranked cruiserweight.

I've seen that Bellew has been getting on every media vehicle that he can (TalkSport radio, BBC breakfast show etc...) which is normal enough - the likes of AJ and DeGale done the same thing when they won their World Titles but I have noticed just how bitter Tony Bellew comes across in repeated interviews. And I say that, comparing him to the two others.

For example (some extracts from their interviews)

AJ: "It's a dream come true, ever since I turned professional , I dreamed of becoming World Heavyweight Champion"
JDG: "Ever since winning a Gold Medal for my country, becoming a World Champion has been my main goal"


Then you have Bellew coming off with:

"I told you all that I would be a World Champion. People have continually doubted me and criticized me throughout my career. But I have done it now, I'm World Champion. I told you so"

I give Bellew credit for winning a World title- even if it was vacant - but I'm nopt automatically going to start describing him as a "great fighter" - to do that he needs to be defeating better opponents that what he has been doing.

And I'm talking about the likes of: Glowacki, Lebedev, Drozd, Huck and Shumenov - then we can properly start measuring him as a fighter.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by Bodyshot3 »

I am genuinely pleased for Bellew but I'd be mightily miffed to have pay more on top of a Sky subscription to see him fight.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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The thread titles valid in this day and age but makes it no less disgusting. Boxings not worth paying for these days.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

Post by IRLangmaid25 »

Stuarty30 wrote:He's not PPV worthy but then again who is nowadays? I'd only pay to watch him on box office if he was part of a bigger 'stacked' card blah blah.
Same here. He is an attraction, but his division is often overlooked.
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Re: Do you consider Bellew a PPV fighter?

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Yes, but only in big fights. People will pay up, like it or not.
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