Haye accepts Bellew's challenge

[Controversial]

Wilder's team ruled Haye out as a replacement for Povetkin because they think he hasn't beaten anyone and needs to step up to get a chance, Haye isn't doing himself any favours with these type of fights.

...They also know Haye has a very solid chance of knocking him spark out, he gets a lot of stick and deservedly so but he's still a really dangerous fighter.

Yeah of course, Wilder was a sparring partner for Haye a few years back and Haye handled him well. Its all one big game.

[BigDoofus]

Yeah of course, Wilder was a sparring partner for Haye a few years back and Haye handled him well.

There were contrary rumours.

[bripez]

Oh dear, this post has made me realise ......

We could see Haye and Boomer fight for a Heavyweight World title ...... they might agree on a catch weight, but as long as both boxers weigh over the Cruserweight limit there would not be a problem.

The winner could face Joshua in a British unification fight - I am sure that Eddie has tee'd up the PPV dates already.

[Finn]

Wilder's team ruled Haye out as a replacement for Povetkin because they think he hasn't beaten anyone and needs to step up to get a chance, Haye isn't doing himself any favours with these type of fights.

...They also know Haye has a very solid chance of knocking him spark out, he gets a lot of stick and deservedly so but he's still a really dangerous fighter.

Yeah of course, Wilder was a sparring partner for Haye a few years back and Haye handled him well. Its all one big game.

Think what they said was they think Haye is a fight they need to prep for due to the size of the promotion so he isn't a viable short notice opponent.

[palooka]

Could Haye make the cruiser limit or would it be a catch weight? I can't blame Bellew, that bout would make plenty of dough and that's the name of the game. Of course, Haye would demolish him.

[Controversial]

Could Haye make the cruiser limit or would it be a catch weight? I can't blame Bellew, that bout would make plenty of dough and that's the name of the game. Of course, Haye would demolish him.

I can't see Haye getting down to CW anymore, I think Bellew said he would move up to HW

[leejonesjnr]

Could Haye make the cruiser limit or would it be a catch weight? I can't blame Bellew, that bout would make plenty of dough and that's the name of the game. Of course, Haye would demolish him.

I can't see Haye getting down to CW anymore, I think Bellew said he would move up to HW

Bellew said 'come back to your natural weight', he wouldn't want to give up his title, although that isn't a given anyway were he to box at heavy, however the implication is that he'd want the fight to be a title defence. Presumably as defending champion he would also want the bigger split of the purse.
Haye has made it clear that he would expect Bellew to move up to heavy, is still the bigger draw and can make good money without trying to drop 25lbs.
I believe that all involved are taking the opportunity to grab a few headlines with no real interest in making the fight.

[Controversial]

Could Haye make the cruiser limit or would it be a catch weight? I can't blame Bellew, that bout would make plenty of dough and that's the name of the game. Of course, Haye would demolish him.

I can't see Haye getting down to CW anymore, I think Bellew said he would move up to HW

Bellew said 'come back to your natural weight', he wouldn't want to give up his title, although that isn't a given anyway were he to box at heavy, however the implication is that he'd want the fight to be a title defence. Presumably as defending champion he would also want the bigger split of the purse.
Haye has made it clear that he would expect Bellew to move up to heavy, is still the bigger draw and can make good money without trying to drop 25lbs.
I believe that all involved are taking the opportunity to grab a few headlines with no real interest in making the fight.

Bellew was interviewed and said he would want Haye to lose some of his weight but then said he wanted to dip his toes in with the HW's in a David vs. Goliath fight. So does that mean he wants Haye at CW and then fight at HW or fight Haye at HW but at a catch weight?

[leejonesjnr]

I can't see Haye getting down to CW anymore, I think Bellew said he would move up to HW

Bellew said 'come back to your natural weight', he wouldn't want to give up his title, although that isn't a given anyway were he to box at heavy, however the implication is that he'd want the fight to be a title defence. Presumably as defending champion he would also want the bigger split of the purse.
Haye has made it clear that he would expect Bellew to move up to heavy, is still the bigger draw and can make good money without trying to drop 25lbs.
I believe that all involved are taking the opportunity to grab a few headlines with no real interest in making the fight.

Bellew was interviewed and said he would want Haye to lose some of his weight but then said he wanted to dip his toes in with the HW's in a David vs. Goliath fight. So does that mean he wants Haye at CW and then fight at HW or fight Haye at HW but at a catch weight?

I haven't seen that but to me that sounds like he would accept a heavyweight fight but at a limit, say 210 or so?

[magwitch]

The things people talk about ......nice one lefty

[Controversial]

Bellew said 'come back to your natural weight', he wouldn't want to give up his title, although that isn't a given anyway were he to box at heavy, however the implication is that he'd want the fight to be a title defence. Presumably as defending champion he would also want the bigger split of the purse.
Haye has made it clear that he would expect Bellew to move up to heavy, is still the bigger draw and can make good money without trying to drop 25lbs.
I believe that all involved are taking the opportunity to grab a few headlines with no real interest in making the fight.

Bellew was interviewed and said he would want Haye to lose some of his weight but then said he wanted to dip his toes in with the HW's in a David vs. Goliath fight. So does that mean he wants Haye at CW and then fight at HW or fight Haye at HW but at a catch weight?

I haven't seen that but to me that sounds like he would accept a heavyweight fight but at a limit, say 210 or so?

Actually he says he wants to unify the CW division then maybe fight at HW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDuDCTMl-C0

[jamesmcdonnell]

Would it? Even if Bellew weighed under the heavyweight limit?

I didn't know that was how it worked.

There's no limit for heavyweight. You can fight for the heavyweight title weighing in at strawweight if you wished to.

Exactly. If the bout is over 200lb and one of the combatants weighs over that, it is a heavyweight fight and it makes no difference what Bellend weighs.

Take a look at the Pac v Margarito fight as a recent example of this. It was a Light Middleweight fight, but Pac weighed under the welter limit. Made no difference.

In fact, neither combatant needs to be over 200 lbs. Anybody can fight or own the heavyweight title no matter what they weigh. The only stipulation is that there is no upper weight limit really.

[magwitch]

Is that black Canadian chap not a cruiserweight? The one that beat him up? Or the one the same bloke’s meant to be scared of, from Russia with Gloves? I take it they must be a weight (or two) below....

[magwitch]

I blame Amir Khan. Everyone’s daring to be great these days.

[Crazyboy]

Lets not forget that it was Bellew that called him out live on Sky....of course Haye is going to respond.

if they fought I would take Haye all day to beat Bellew, at whatever weight.

So what if Bellew called him out, does that mean it's a worthy fight - of course it bloody well isn't.

Haye would smash Bellew inside a round, the first flush punch would KO him.

This is a joke of a fight if it happens.

I guess if people are thick enough to buy tickets to watch such tripe, they deserve what they get. It is not however providing any kind of long term boost for the sport, in fact, quite the contrary. People seem to believe that promoting mismatches and making a killing from it is good for the sport, but in truth it's about grabbing a payday from an ever diminishing pot of public interest. None of the people attending these shows, or at least very few will become long term fans. They are buying into brand Haye because they simply don't know any better, and believe what they are being told. However, when Haye retires again, another 10-20 million richer, they will be gone with him.

I'm gradually tiring of boxing, after having been a fan since I was 10, I now am reaching the conclusion that the sport is increasingly a joke. If Canelo v GGG and Ward v Golovkin don't happen by the end of next year, I think I might actually be done with boxing.

I've been watching UFC ever since I got BT sport, and I have to say I find it far better a use of my time. The matchups are better, the fights are generally more exciting, and I'm not paying 20 pounds a time to watch pathetic cards.

The average UFC card seems to have 10-12 fights on it, at least half of which are very competitive, not to mention slick production values.

I agree mate, never said any different....joke fight.

All I meant was people kicking off about hayes response, when all he was doing was respond to Bellew calling him out live on Sky.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Lets not forget that it was Bellew that called him out live on Sky....of course Haye is going to respond.

if they fought I would take Haye all day to beat Bellew, at whatever weight.

So what if Bellew called him out, does that mean it's a worthy fight - of course it bloody well isn't.

Haye would smash Bellew inside a round, the first flush punch would KO him.

This is a joke of a fight if it happens.

I guess if people are thick enough to buy tickets to watch such tripe, they deserve what they get. It is not however providing any kind of long term boost for the sport, in fact, quite the contrary. People seem to believe that promoting mismatches and making a killing from it is good for the sport, but in truth it's about grabbing a payday from an ever diminishing pot of public interest. None of the people attending these shows, or at least very few will become long term fans. They are buying into brand Haye because they simply don't know any better, and believe what they are being told. However, when Haye retires again, another 10-20 million richer, they will be gone with him.

I'm gradually tiring of boxing, after having been a fan since I was 10, I now am reaching the conclusion that the sport is increasingly a joke. If Canelo v GGG and Ward v Golovkin don't happen by the end of next year, I think I might actually be done with boxing.

I've been watching UFC ever since I got BT sport, and I have to say I find it far better a use of my time. The matchups are better, the fights are generally more exciting, and I'm not paying 20 pounds a time to watch pathetic cards.

The average UFC card seems to have 10-12 fights on it, at least half of which are very competitive, not to mention slick production values.

I agree mate, never said any different....joke fight.

All I meant was people kicking off about hayes response, when all he was doing was respond to Bellew calling him out live on Sky.

The point I'm making, is Bellew is calling out Haye as he's hoping for a payday, Haye is the one who will make it happen, or allow it to happen depending on how you look at it. He has no need to fight Bellew other than to rinse money. Then again, the same could be said of Briggs, but at least Briggs is a career heavyweight.

No way Haye makes 200 or below, or would even attempt it, so Bellew would just probably come in a few pounds over 200.

[Boxerbeetle]

Is that black Canadian chap not a cruiserweight? The one that beat him up? Or the one the same bloke’s meant to be scared of, from Russia with Gloves? I take it they must be a weight (or two) below....

Presumably you're talking about Stephenson and Kovalev? They are light-heavyweights.

[leejonesjnr]

Bellew was interviewed and said he would want Haye to lose some of his weight but then said he wanted to dip his toes in with the HW's in a David vs. Goliath fight. So does that mean he wants Haye at CW and then fight at HW or fight Haye at HW but at a catch weight?

I haven't seen that but to me that sounds like he would accept a heavyweight fight but at a limit, say 210 or so?

Actually he says he wants to unify the CW division then maybe fight at HW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDuDCTMl-C0

Much more sensible and respectful when the post fight emotion has settled down.

[keithmoonhangover]

If Haye goes down to cruiser, how on earth is it fleecing the general public?

[jamesmcdonnell]

If Haye goes down to cruiser, how on earth is it fleecing the general public?

Yes, but there's virtually zero chance of that happening.

Why would haye go down to 200, if he plans on fighting Joshua Wilder, he'd have to lose all the muscle mass and put it back on again.

[keithmoonhangover]

If Haye goes down to cruiser, how on earth is it fleecing the general public?

Yes, but there's virtually zero chance of that happening.

Why would haye go down to 200, if he plans on fighting Joshua Wilder, he'd have to lose all the muscle mass and put it back on again.

I agree mate, but if they do fight, no matter what the weight, the public have a choice not to tune in. Even if Belew weighed 200 and Haye weighed 225, it's not a massive weight difference by heavyweight standards. Haye was outweighed by Chisora by 37lbs.

[nitro5912]

Sky are saying that bellew will go up to heavy to fight haye and that he and David price battered him in sparring in 05. And the same would happen again.

I think that hate would have too much speed for bomber at heavy

[tobyh5]

There's no limit for heavyweight. You can fight for the heavyweight title weighing in at strawweight if you wished to.

Exactly. If the bout is over 200lb and one of the combatants weighs over that, it is a heavyweight fight and it makes no difference what Bellend weighs.

Take a look at the Pac v Margarito fight as a recent example of this. It was a Light Middleweight fight, but Pac weighed under the welter limit. Made no difference.

In fact, neither combatant needs to be over 200 lbs. Anybody can fight or own the heavyweight title no matter what they weigh. The only stipulation is that there is no upper weight limit really.

That is a title fight, which no one was talking about. If no title on the line, it would not be a heavyweight fight if both were under 200lb.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Exactly. If the bout is over 200lb and one of the combatants weighs over that, it is a heavyweight fight and it makes no difference what Bellend weighs.

Take a look at the Pac v Margarito fight as a recent example of this. It was a Light Middleweight fight, but Pac weighed under the welter limit. Made no difference.

In fact, neither combatant needs to be over 200 lbs. Anybody can fight or own the heavyweight title no matter what they weigh. The only stipulation is that there is no upper weight limit really.

That is a title fight, which no one was talking about. If no title on the line, it would not be a heavyweight fight if both were under 200lb.

Yes, that's true. With no title, you'd bill it as a cruiserweight fight.

[Autobarn]

Well it looks like Bellew has calmed down. We all know he does get emotional. Winning the world title made him more emotional, it seems. The title will be everything for Bomber and he'll have a job on his hands keeping it.

Haye is kind of passive-aggressive the way he promotes himself. He gets called out by people who act insane, like Briggs and Bellew, then seems like the most reasonable guy in the world when he accepts their challenge so he can defend himself from being bad mouthed.

Hate to say is, but I am starting to find it all very, very funny. If it was Haye vs Bellew fighting at say 213-pounds or thereabouts, their personalities would really grab headlines and make it a huge event - but probably not much of a contest.

If it happened you'd think it is like a beefed up version of Haye v Maccarinelli.

"YOU MUST HAVE LOST YOUR GODDAMNED MIND!" - can't stop laughing at that video