Verdi wrote:Well there's a lot of stuff out there that can't be tested for, but that's a different story.Ricky_ wrote:Verdi wrote:They're both the same height, Bellew should move up to HW if he wants Haye, not expect Haye to comedown. Get eating, get into the gym Bellew and make it happen.
Haye's last fight was Chisora in 2012 until his comeback this year. Best part of 4 years. And he looks much bigger, weighing in about a stone heavier in lean muscle.
Haye's clearly used his extended holiday from the sport to buff up to relaunch his HW career with the kind of size he needs, and may well have done it using whatever substances he wanted to use, since he wouldn't have been subject to any testing.
Bellew is at a huge disadvantage weight wise and no amount of "eating" could have him ready within the next few months.
Nobody was expecting Bellew to fight Haye though, so if Bellew is going to call him out like a clown then he should fight him at HW.
I wouldn't expect the match to happen in the next few months, but sometime next year would be good. Bellew could gain 10 lbs in that time Haye may lose a few.
Anyhow in the HW division, there are far bigger weight discrepancies than Haye vs Bellew and they are the same height. So what if Bellew may give away 10+lbs by the time they fight? Haye gave away 37lbs against Chisora, 32lbs against Klitscho and 99lbs against Valuev.
I'd like to see the fight happen anyhow.
Yeah fair point regarding Haye giving up weight. Once you reach HW it seems to matter less though. Chisora was heavier than Haye but it's ineffective weight. Wlad however did have alot of size advantages he utilized.
Huck vs Povetkin is a good reference. Roughly the same height. Huck the superior boxer but looked like he just didn't have the bron at HW for his shots to hurt Povetkin, but Povetkin was hurting Huck. Difference is Bellew isn't even as good a boxer as Haye, he is inferior in every department from size to skill.