Taishan Dong.....is his ascendancy to the championship inevitable?

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Is Boxing the next industry to be dominated by the Chinese?

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1. Undefeated
2. Very very tall
3. Has some basketball experience
4. Current King of the 4 rounders
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Yes, noticed him. Trained by Buddy McGirt; there's an interesting you tube training session and interview available.

I'm not convinced, looks as slow as Valuev but in good shape.
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I wonder why they never went with the nickname Big?
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Controversial wrote:I wonder why they never went with the nickname Big?
LMAO or Giant. I seem to recall his real name isn't Taishan either - a bit like Fury, trying to replicate Iron Mike.
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No. Guys that tall almost always have medical conditions which hinder them.

Judging by the shape of his skull and jaw, he has acromegaly, the same as Valuev - he will be slow, lumbering and not very good.

Guys that size, usually have shite stamina, as the heart muscle can't adapt to carrying such a huge weight around and suffer with numerous joint and bone problems.
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Loki wrote:
Controversial wrote:I wonder why they never went with the nickname Big?
LMAO or Giant. I seem to recall his real name isn't Taishan either - a bit like Fury, trying to replicate Iron Mike.
Or King,

or Ding

Taishen 'Ding' Dong sounds great.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Loki wrote:
Controversial wrote:I wonder why they never went with the nickname Big?
LMAO or Giant. I seem to recall his real name isn't Taishan either - a bit like Fury, trying to replicate Iron Mike.
Or King,

or Ding

Taishen 'Ding' Dong sounds great.
LOL - that sounds shite.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Loki wrote:
Controversial wrote:I wonder why they never went with the nickname Big?
LMAO or Giant. I seem to recall his real name isn't Taishan either - a bit like Fury, trying to replicate Iron Mike.
Or King,

or Ding

Taishen 'Ding' Dong sounds great.
How about Big King Ping Pong Ding Dong
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Controversial wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Loki wrote:
LMAO or Giant. I seem to recall his real name isn't Taishan either - a bit like Fury, trying to replicate Iron Mike.
Or King,

or Ding

Taishen 'Ding' Dong sounds great.
How about Big King Ping Pong Ding Dong
Ridiculous :doh:
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He doesn't have many athletic gifts beyond size and strength. His reach is actually very short for a guy his height. He doesn't dispatch people with the precision and speed of Anthony Joshua. He seems faster and more athletic than Valuev who was very easy to hit but never dropped due to his massive size and strength. Valuev intelligently refused to fight either Klitschko. Valuev lost 2 close decisions to guys Waldimir easily beat, so my guess is the K Bros would have dispatched him. I think Joshua would dispatch Dong if he developed his game and became a contender - and Fury would probably outbox him. So the answer is no. Dong's ascendancy, which may have happened in the 50's will not happen today.
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Seen him a few times. Haven't been impressed yet.
Can't see China taking over yet. Hope Macau put on more top level shows. Enjoyed some of them.
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His brother Veiny is a specimen also. He's big, hard and penetrative :bag:
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TBH I'm not impressed about what I've seen yet, there is somehow some other Chinese who shows amazing numbers, somehow I can barely find any footage of him, so it's hard to judge over it.
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Stuarty30 wrote:His brother Veiny is a specimen also. He's big, hard and penetrative :bag:
:lol: :lol: :bow:
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Kalan wrote:He doesn't have many athletic gifts beyond size and strength. His reach is actually very short for a guy his height. He doesn't dispatch people with the precision and speed of Anthony Joshua. He seems faster and more athletic than Valuev who was very easy to hit but never dropped due to his massive size and strength. Valuev intelligently refused to fight either Klitschko. Valuev lost 2 close decisions to guys Waldimir easily beat, so my guess is the K Bros would have dispatched him. I think Joshua would dispatch Dong if he developed his game and became a contender - and Fury would probably outbox him. So the answer is no. Dong's ascendancy, which may have happened in the 50's will not happen today.
Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.
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gilgamesh wrote:Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.
It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER... Since Ali ate jabs.. got left hooked in the head a lot.. got knocked down.. jaw got his shattered.. got beaten up.. and got soundly trounced.. I don't think Ali, as great as he was, beat every boxer EVER ... did he???? ... A lot of people commented on Wilts' strength, speed, physical toughness and ruggedness, athleticism, massive 101" reach, and leading the NBA in scoring and rebounding year after year, that he seemed to have the athletic ability to make him a formidable boxer.. Especially when he flattened a bully 250lb forward.. However, Wilt found something out that Too Tall Jones found out years later.. If you're a great boxer and puncher you're not necessarily going to get appropriate fights with guys who will most likely get knocked colder than 7 barrels of penguin shit if they face you.
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Kalan wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.
It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER...
Some people just have no ambition.
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Kalan wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.
It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER... Since Ali ate jabs.. got left hooked in the head a lot.. got knocked down.. jaw got his shattered.. got beaten up.. and got soundly trounced.. I don't think Ali, as great as he was, beat every boxer EVER ... did he???? ... A lot of people commented on Wilts' strength, speed, physical toughness and ruggedness, athleticism, massive 101" reach, and leading the NBA in scoring and rebounding year after year, that he seemed to have the athletic ability to make him a formidable boxer.. Especially when he flattened a bully 250lb forward.. However, Wilt found something out that Too Tall Jones found out years later.. If you're a great boxer and puncher you're not necessarily going to get appropriate fights with guys who will most likely get knocked colder than 7 barrels of penguin poo if they face you.
Did you know that Wilt Chamberlain was also the first man on the moon. He was able to jump that high...that's how athletic the guy was. He was amazing.

He also swam the Atlantic and Hit a Hole in One on all 18 holes the one time he played golf. True story.
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gilgamesh wrote:
Kalan wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.
It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER... Since Ali ate jabs.. got left hooked in the head a lot.. got knocked down.. jaw got his shattered.. got beaten up.. and got soundly trounced.. I don't think Ali, as great as he was, beat every boxer EVER ... did he???? ... A lot of people commented on Wilts' strength, speed, physical toughness and ruggedness, athleticism, massive 101" reach, and leading the NBA in scoring and rebounding year after year, that he seemed to have the athletic ability to make him a formidable boxer.. Especially when he flattened a bully 250lb forward.. However, Wilt found something out that Too Tall Jones found out years later.. If you're a great boxer and puncher you're not necessarily going to get appropriate fights with guys who will most likely get knocked colder than 7 barrels of penguin poo if they face you.
Did you know that Wilt Chamberlain was also the first man on the moon. He was able to jump that high...that's how athletic the guy was. He was amazing.

He also swam the Atlantic and Hit a Hole in One on all 18 holes the one time he played golf. True story.

won the Superbowl single-handedly too, didn't he?
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Stuarty30 wrote:His brother Veiny is a specimen also. He's big, hard and penetrative :bag:
:lol:
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Kalan wrote:
It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER... Since Ali ate jabs.. got left hooked in the head a lot.. got knocked down.. jaw got his shattered.. got beaten up.. and got soundly trounced.. I don't think Ali, as great as he was, beat every boxer EVER ... did he???? ... A lot of people commented on Wilts' strength, speed, physical toughness and ruggedness, athleticism, massive 101" reach, and leading the NBA in scoring and rebounding year after year, that he seemed to have the athletic ability to make him a formidable boxer.. Especially when he flattened a bully 250lb forward.. However, Wilt found something out that Too Tall Jones found out years later.. If you're a great boxer and puncher you're not necessarily going to get appropriate fights with guys who will most likely get knocked colder than 7 barrels of penguin poo if they face you.
Did you know that Wilt Chamberlain was also the first man on the moon. He was able to jump that high...that's how athletic the guy was. He was amazing.

He also swam the Atlantic and Hit a Hole in One on all 18 holes the one time he played golf. True story.

won the Superbowl single-handedly too, didn't he?
He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.
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He's not 7 foot tall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqgAvdDMI_k
That's him fighting someone 6"3'

People say it's dubious that Fury is even 6"9', here's him against someone 6"3'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ese1YPpw5mE
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gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Did you know that Wilt Chamberlain was also the first man on the moon. He was able to jump that high...that's how athletic the guy was. He was amazing.

He also swam the Atlantic and Hit a Hole in One on all 18 holes the one time he played golf. True story.

won the Superbowl single-handedly too, didn't he?
He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.
For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.
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Loki wrote:
Controversial wrote:I wonder why they never went with the nickname Big?
LMAO or Giant. I seem to recall his real name isn't Taishan either - a bit like Fury, trying to replicate Iron Mike.

Fury real name is Tyson

However, if you asked me to write on down Tyson on a Chinese accent Taishan would be there or there abouts. I believe the name came from the mountain in his village or something - mount taishan

To answer the thread he's bloody awful. Watched him twice. No good.
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Can't say he impresses me. His first top level opponent will destroy him IMO.
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