He started pro same time as AJ, had it not been for injuries, he would have also racked up around about 15-20 wins by now. Questions about Ogogo.
1. Would he be British or European champion by now?
2. Would he have fought Eubanks Jr. or Billy Joe by now?
3. How long til he could get a title shot?
4. Who should he fight next?
5. Is the middleweight division tougher than what AJ is going through at HW?
Ogogo: World Champion?
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Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
Just to expand on his next opponent question. I think he should fight top British middleweights.
All the fighters ranked above him
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3 Tommy Langford
132 16 0 0 26
4 John Ryder
'The Gorilla'
129 23 2 0 27
5 Tom Doran
Dazzlin'
81 17 0 0 28
6 Lee Markham
'Banjo'
75 16 3 1 28
7 Adam Etches
'The Bomber'
68 20 1 0 25
8 Elliott Matthews
65 17 0 1 35
9 Craig Cunningham
55 15 1 0 28
10 Conrad Cummings
'Dynamite'
51 9 0 1 25
11 Marcus Morrison
49 11 0 0 23
12 Lewis Taylor
47 18 2 1 26
13 Alfredo Meli
'Fredo'
41 11 0 1 25
14 Joe Mullender
'Smokin Joe'
40 9 2 0 29
15 Jack Arnfield
38 20 2 0 27
16 Andrew Robinson
'D'Animal'
36 18 1 0 31
17 Reece Cartwright
36 12 0 0 21
18 Kieran Smith
'Chopper'
32 5 0 0 23
19 Adam Jones
'Jonesy'
31 6 14 4 23
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All the fighters ranked above him
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3 Tommy Langford
132 16 0 0 26
4 John Ryder
'The Gorilla'
129 23 2 0 27
5 Tom Doran
Dazzlin'
81 17 0 0 28
6 Lee Markham
'Banjo'
75 16 3 1 28
7 Adam Etches
'The Bomber'
68 20 1 0 25
8 Elliott Matthews
65 17 0 1 35
9 Craig Cunningham
55 15 1 0 28
10 Conrad Cummings
'Dynamite'
51 9 0 1 25
11 Marcus Morrison
49 11 0 0 23
12 Lewis Taylor
47 18 2 1 26
13 Alfredo Meli
'Fredo'
41 11 0 1 25
14 Joe Mullender
'Smokin Joe'
40 9 2 0 29
15 Jack Arnfield
38 20 2 0 27
16 Andrew Robinson
'D'Animal'
36 18 1 0 31
17 Reece Cartwright
36 12 0 0 21
18 Kieran Smith
'Chopper'
32 5 0 0 23
19 Adam Jones
'Jonesy'
31 6 14 4 23
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Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
1. It's not just his injuries. When he does fight his opponents are terrible. His team don't have faith in him and neither do I.
2. If he'd have fought Saunders or Eubank Jr then he would have lost.
3. He can get a domestic title shot any time his promoter wants, but he's done nothing to suggest that he is ready.
4. He should fight anyone from the lower British top 20 next.
5. The domestic middleweight division is not tougher than the domestic heavyweight division. Golovkin is the only fighter that makes the middleweight division seem tougher at world level.
2. If he'd have fought Saunders or Eubank Jr then he would have lost.
3. He can get a domestic title shot any time his promoter wants, but he's done nothing to suggest that he is ready.
4. He should fight anyone from the lower British top 20 next.
5. The domestic middleweight division is not tougher than the domestic heavyweight division. Golovkin is the only fighter that makes the middleweight division seem tougher at world level.
Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
He needs to get a move on.
He's 28 this year which is still young for a middleweight, but he's talking about world titles in the future so he should at least be targeting the English title.
Markham has proven himself to be a sturdy operator at domestic level over the last 12 months, why not make that fight?
He's 28 this year which is still young for a middleweight, but he's talking about world titles in the future so he should at least be targeting the English title.
Markham has proven himself to be a sturdy operator at domestic level over the last 12 months, why not make that fight?
Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
^^ This. I just don't see it. I would like to be proved wrong because he comes across a decent and knowledgable guy.Horse wrote:1. It's not just his injuries. When he does fight his opponents are terrible. His team don't have faith in him and neither do I.
2. If he'd have fought Saunders or Eubank Jr then he would have lost.
3. He can get a domestic title shot any time his promoter wants, but he's done nothing to suggest that he is ready.
4. He should fight anyone from the lower British top 20 next.
5. The domestic middleweight division is not tougher than the domestic heavyweight division. Golovkin is the only fighter that makes the middleweight division seem tougher at world level.
Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
Because Markham is too good. Ogogo talking about being world champion by the end of the year is pathetic talk.Webbo911 wrote:Markham has proven himself to be a sturdy operator at domestic level over the last 12 months, why not make that fight?
How can a fighter who hasn't even done enough to confirm a place in the domestic top 20 be bigging themselves up that much? What a gobs***e.
Ogogo's domestic opposition that is still ranked by BoxRec:
Gary Cooper - Ranked 53rd in Britain (most recent opponent)
Wayne Reed - Ranked 46th in Britain
Gary Boulden - Ranked 73rd in Britain
Kieron Gray - Ranked 71st in Britain (debut opponent)
Look at that lot. Why hasn't he stepped up at all? He an Olympic medalist.
He should have been aiming higher than Cooper for his debut, never mind fighting at that level over three years later.
What a farce.
Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
Is he still with Golden Boy? Don't deny DLH is a great promoter, but he's type if you're British you'd sign with once you'd made it to top or were close. Not when turning over.
Sometimes appears like he doesn't really wanna be there, like his hearts not really in the sport. Eubank Jnr went pro a year earlier with almost no amateur experience (in comparison) yet he's had more than twice as many fights and has developed far more.
Oh go looks like being another could've been
Sometimes appears like he doesn't really wanna be there, like his hearts not really in the sport. Eubank Jnr went pro a year earlier with almost no amateur experience (in comparison) yet he's had more than twice as many fights and has developed far more.
Oh go looks like being another could've been
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Re: Ogogo: World Champion?
Injurys have had a huge impact on his career.
If he stays injury free I can see them moving him along quickly.
He needs to step up his level of competition straight away though.
His level of exposure has been nowhere of what was expected when he turned Pro.
If he stays injury free I can see them moving him along quickly.
He needs to step up his level of competition straight away though.
His level of exposure has been nowhere of what was expected when he turned Pro.