Bellew calling out Haye

[Horse]

Bellew is better at Cruiserweight than he was at light heavy but he is still at that level that is a level below genuine world class despite being a title holder.

Bellew was world class at light heavyweight and he's world class at cruiserweight.

[Ian1973]

Bellew is better at Cruiserweight than he was at light heavy but he is still at that level that is a level below genuine world class despite being a title holder.

Bellew was world class at light heavyweight and he's world class at cruiserweight.

I wouldn't say he was world class at light heavy for certain. Stevenson hammered him, Kovalev would destroy him in a round or two and the likes of Fonfara would probably beat him, probably Pascal also.

Cruiserweight is a less competitive and slightly easier division .................. IMO of course.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Bellew is better at Cruiserweight than he was at light heavy but he is still at that level that is a level below genuine world class despite being a title holder.

Bellew was world class at light heavyweight and he's world class at cruiserweight.

No.

[Horse]

I wouldn't say he was world class at light heavy for certain. Stevenson hammered him,

Stevenson is a P4Per with a P4P level of punching power.

That doesn't mean that Bellew wasn't world class.

Kovalev would destroy him in a round or two

That fight didn't happen, so how can you hold a fictional fight against him?

and the likes of Fonfara would probably beat him, probably Pascal also.

"Probably", but the fights didn't happen, so we don't know.

Cruiserweight is a less competitive and slightly easier division .................. IMO of course.

It seems that way.

[Horse]

No.

Yes.

[ILikeBeer]

No.

Yes.

Maybe.

[Bard of Boxrec]

No.

Yes.

Bellew looked awful vs Makubu. Slow, ponderous, open. He caught the guy and finished him off, well done. We learned nothing new about him.

[Horse]

Bellew looked awful vs Makubu. Slow, ponderous, open. He caught the guy and finished him off, well done. We learned nothing new about him.

We learned that he's world class at cruiserweight.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Bellew looked awful vs Makubu. Slow, ponderous, open. He caught the guy and finished him off, well done. We learned nothing new about him.

We learned that he's world class at cruiserweight.

Nah. Makubu showed potential in footage but he was never that hard to hit and I suspect Bellew really doesn't have as much POWAH as folk give him credit for.

I don't expect Makubu to come back and do anything to suggest he is a top contender in this division, maybe fringe. I think he will get stopped by someone as good or slightly worse than Bellew in the next few fights if he gets used by other promoters. But Bellew will have been too, and it will all have the effect of discrediting this supposed 'world level' matchup.

[Horse]

Nah. Makubu showed potential in footage but he was never that hard to hit and I suspect Bellew really doesn't have as much POWAH as folk give him credit for.

I don't expect Makubu to come back and do anything to suggest he is a top contender in this division. I think he will get stopped by someone slightly worse than Bellew in the next few fights if he gets used by other contenders. But Bellew will have been too, and it will all have the effect of discrediting this supposed 'world level' matchup.

Bellew is a far more proven fighter than Joshua though, you'll admit that?

[Bard of Boxrec]

Bellew is a far more proven fighter than Joshua though, you'll admit that?

In terms of records, which I know you view as the be all and end all, I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure why it's relevant.

On the eye test Bellew has proved enough to show he isn't any more than a mid-lower top ten guy at best.

[Horse]

In terms of records, which I know you view as the be all and end all, I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure why it's relevant.

You criticise a proven world class fighter like Bellew and talk down his best wins and then act like Joshua is God's gift to boxing when he has done bugger all.

Records matter, Bellew is proven. Show some respect.

On the eye test Bellew has proved enough to show he isn't any more than a mid-lower top ten guy at best.

Your detestable eye test.

It's easy to look good against bums and far more difficult to look good against top level opposition.

Bellew doesn't fight many chumps, so he's never likely to be able to beat Joshua when it comes to the eye test.

[Bard of Boxrec]

In terms of records, which I know you view as the be all and end all, I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure why it's relevant.

You criticise a proven world class fighter like Bellew and talk down his best wins and then act like Joshua is God's gift to boxing when he has done bugger all.

Records matter, Bellew is proven. Show some respect.

On the eye test Bellew has proved enough to show he isn't any more than a mid-lower top ten guy at best.

Your detestable eye test.

It's easy to look good against bums and far more difficult to look good against top level opposition.

Bellew doesn't fight many chumps, so he's never likely to be able to beat Joshua when it comes to the eye test.

Did Bellew ever look good against bums? He always looked the same from my memories. Limited.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Joshua will destroy some guy you deem 'worthy' and hopefully you can show some class about it.

besides, in Whyte Joshua has arguably a better win than any of Bellew's.

[nitro5912]

In terms of records, which I know you view as the be all and end all, I guess you could say that, but I'm not sure why it's relevant.

You criticise a proven world class fighter like Bellew and talk down his best wins and then act like Joshua is God's gift to boxing when he has done bugger all.

Records matter, Bellew is proven. Show some respect.

On the eye test Bellew has proved enough to show he isn't any more than a mid-lower top ten guy at best.

Your detestable eye test.

It's easy to look good against bums and far more difficult to look good against top level opposition.

Bellew doesn't fight many chumps, so he's never likely to be able to beat Joshua when it comes to the eye test.

Bellew doesn't fight chumps?

How about 2 of his 4 fights since cleverly are ranked at 98 and 163 in the world on box rec. Masternak isn't ranked top 20. The 2 guys he faced before cleverly are both ranked top 300 in the world.

That's 4 of 7 fights of guys who are ranked outside the top 90, cleverly who isn't ranked as cruiser and only 1 top 20 Boxrec fighter.

Bellew has been fed chumps since Stevenson KO'd his ass. I think he is still suffering if he is serious about moving up to heavy to fight haye.

[Horse]

besides, in Whyte Joshua has arguably a better win than any of Bellew's.

Pathetic comment.

Whyte is not even a proven English title level fighter.

Pathetic.

[Bard of Boxrec]

besides, in Whyte Joshua has arguably a better win than any of Bellew's.

Pathetic comment.

Whyte is not even a proven English title level fighter.

Pathetic.

The only thing that would stop Whyte from 'proving' himself a fighter at least as good as Chilemba would be how badly he was crushed vs Joshua.

[Horse]

The only thing that would stop Whyte from becoming a fighter at least as good as Chilemba would be how badly he was crushed vs Joshua.

Of course.

[Bard of Boxrec]

The only thing that would stop Whyte from becoming a fighter at least as good as Chilemba would be how badly he was crushed vs Joshua.

Of course.

Glad you're starting to see sense.

[Horse]

Bellew has been fed chumps since Stevenson KO'd his ass.

No, he hasn't.

[Horse]

Glad you're starting to see sense.

I was being sarcastic.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Glad you're starting to see sense.

I was being sarcastic.

The illusion is over

[Controversial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SLtW3TRQyc

[nitro5912]

Bellew has been fed chumps since Stevenson KO'd his ass.

No, he hasn't.

Look at who he has fought. Chump city is where bellew has been residing.

[Cyclops]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SLtW3TRQyc

[Horse]

Look at who he has fought. Chump city is where bellew has been residing.

No.