POVETKIN DID NOT FAIL HIS DRUG TEST

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asdfjkl wrote: I don't understand why the WBC doesn't take the belt away from him.
Take it off him and give it to Povetkin? There's no way that stupidity would eventuate despite that stupidity already shown in the handling of this drug testing scenario.

We want to see the fight. Povetkin should receive the belt the right way when he beats Wilder in their upcoming bout. Question is, how longer must we wait? Also will Wilder take up another fighter to fight next or will he set up for Povetkin?
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asdfjkl wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Up to what point can you blame someone for being stupit? If you take a look at youtube, my god those Americans are dumb. They understand absolutely nothing about science, they are too retarded to understand that Povetkin was clean all the time, no matter how clear the evidence is. Even if you translate it to dumb people language instead of numbers. Anyone with a brain can understand them but they still don't. I can fully understand some type of race that's now considered as people were seen as monkeys back in the days. They act like they only understand what they want to hear and continue to deny reality and science. How can you keep on sticking your head in Wilders but after all this bullshit? Well they prove they can.
I am not an American, and I may know more about science than you, so I will ask again:
May I ask how the negative test in May clears the positive (even though at very low level) result in April ? Yes, a level of meldonium in Povetkin's body now is below a detectable level, but it only proves that he didn't take it after the previous test and his body has been cleared of it. Isn't a point of random testing to not let cheaters (I am NOT saying that Povetkin is one) to clear their body by an expected test date ?

What would benefit Povetkin much more is some expert confirming that his previous level was in fact 70 nanogram, and that is a very close to a detectable level, so negative tests at the beginning of April could easily be false negatives, and the positive test could be a result of lower hydration. That would be in a line with a theory that Povetkin didn't take meldonium after the ban.

All test were negative, including the tests in the end of april. There is just found evidence of things we already knew, that's all. I'm not sure why American testers think that it's now proven Povetkin was clean all the time, by checking his old samples they would have known all numbers added up all the time. Wilder got what he wants, even more delay, that's the worst thing of all. I don't understand why the WBC doesn't take the belt away from him.
Even Ryabinskiy is not as categorical as you. If a concentration of a banned substance is above a margin of error, then the result is positive. In Povetkin's case, it is 15 times below 1 microgram which is an amount causing automatic sanctions, but there is no "allowed amount" after March 1st. Amounts under 1 microgram cause additional investigation which is exactly what has been done.
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asdfjkl wrote:Up to what point can you blame someone for being stupit? If you take a look at youtube, my god those Americans are dumb. They understand absolutely nothing about science, they are too retarded to understand that Povetkin was clean all the time, no matter how clear the evidence is. Even if you translate it to dumb people language instead of numbers. Anyone with a brain can understand them but they still don't. I can fully understand some type of race that's now considered as people were seen as monkeys back in the days. They act like they only understand what they want to hear and continue to deny reality and science. How can you keep on sticking your head in Wilders but after all this bullshit? Well they prove they can.
When they spell stupid wrong, for starters......
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armageto wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Up to what point can you blame someone for being stupit? If you take a look at youtube, my god those Americans are dumb. They understand absolutely nothing about science, they are too retarded to understand that Povetkin was clean all the time, no matter how clear the evidence is. Even if you translate it to dumb people language instead of numbers. Anyone with a brain can understand them but they still don't. I can fully understand some type of race that's now considered as people were seen as monkeys back in the days. They act like they only understand what they want to hear and continue to deny reality and science. How can you keep on sticking your head in Wilders but after all this bullshit? Well they prove they can.
When they spell stupid wrong, for starters......
:lol: so good.
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foxdog1923 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I don't understand why the WBC doesn't take the belt away from him.
Take it off him and give it to Povetkin? There's no way that stupidity would eventuate despite that stupidity already shown in the handling of this drug testing scenario.

We want to see the fight. Povetkin should receive the belt the right way when he beats Wilder in their upcoming bout. Question is, how longer must we wait? Also will Wilder take up another fighter to fight next or will he set up for Povetkin?
If Fury had that it would have been taken away ages ago. And yup, as explained, it's translated to dumb people language. :TU: ;-)
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asdfjkl wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I don't understand why the WBC doesn't take the belt away from him.
Take it off him and give it to Povetkin? There's no way that stupidity would eventuate despite that stupidity already shown in the handling of this drug testing scenario.

We want to see the fight. Povetkin should receive the belt the right way when he beats Wilder in their upcoming bout. Question is, how longer must we wait? Also will Wilder take up another fighter to fight next or will he set up for Povetkin?
If Fury had that it would have been taken away ages ago. And yup, as explained, it's translated to dumb people language. :TU: ;-)
Post it in your native tongue instead. Google is pretty good at translating goat-herding language to the Queen's English.
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MarkMcBurney wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote: Take it off him and give it to Povetkin? There's no way that stupidity would eventuate despite that stupidity already shown in the handling of this drug testing scenario.

We want to see the fight. Povetkin should receive the belt the right way when he beats Wilder in their upcoming bout. Question is, how longer must we wait? Also will Wilder take up another fighter to fight next or will he set up for Povetkin?
If Fury had that it would have been taken away ages ago. And yup, as explained, it's translated to dumb people language. :TU: ;-)
Post it in your native tongue instead. Google is pretty good at translating goat-herding language to the Queen's English.
Lol yeah asdfjkl sets himself up to look stupid a lot.
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MarkMcBurney wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote: Take it off him and give it to Povetkin? There's no way that stupidity would eventuate despite that stupidity already shown in the handling of this drug testing scenario.

We want to see the fight. Povetkin should receive the belt the right way when he beats Wilder in their upcoming bout. Question is, how longer must we wait? Also will Wilder take up another fighter to fight next or will he set up for Povetkin?
If Fury had that it would have been taken away ages ago. And yup, as explained, it's translated to dumb people language. :TU: ;-)
Post it in your native tongue instead. Google is pretty good at translating goat-herding language to the Queen's English.
Not when it comes to Dutch lol.

@foxdog, haven't you been proven wrong enough by now?
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asdfjkl wrote:
MarkMcBurney wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: If Fury had that it would have been taken away ages ago. And yup, as explained, it's translated to dumb people language. :TU: ;-)
Post it in your native tongue instead. Google is pretty good at translating goat-herding language to the Queen's English.
Not when it comes to Dutch lol.

@foxdog, haven't you been proven wrong enough by now?
Ahhhh, that explains the Tyrone Spong love.
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Pureist wrote:There is no data on how long it takes for meldonium to clear from a persons system, so how can you say for sure he cheated when it was ok to take it up until 2016, sharipova has the same issue in the tennis

^^^This is the best post. Move the fight back a few months until the test is clean. It's on WIlder. I think he uses this incident to back out of the fight.
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MarkMcBurney wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
MarkMcBurney wrote: Post it in your native tongue instead. Google is pretty good at translating goat-herding language to the Queen's English.
Not when it comes to Dutch lol.

@foxdog, haven't you been proven wrong enough by now?
Ahhhh, that explains the Tyrone Spong love.
Well love... He lived close near indeed, but that's all, but yes I'm a fan of him. I don't think he will make it to the top 10, but it won't be that far of.
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So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
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kaiserbill wrote:So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
So, he is not. Clean test month after dirty test do not clean the dirty one. All the Riabinsky bulshitting is just what it is - bullshit.
If not the Riabinsky's 4.5M$ at their account, Povetkin was banned three weeks ago for a year at least. Riabinsky's money is the only reason Povetkin was mandatory at the first place...
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kaiserbill wrote:So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
You are correct.

Chris Arreola atop short list to face Deontay Wilder this summer
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bigman1968 wrote:
kaiserbill wrote:So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
So, he is not. Clean test month after dirty test do not clean the dirty one. All the Riabinsky bulshitting is just what it is - bullshit.
If not the Riabinsky's 4.5M$ at their account, Povetkin was banned three weeks ago for a year at least. Riabinsky's money is the only reason Povetkin was mandatory at the first place...
Look, I caught you out lying before in the other thread regarding the Wlad vs Povetkin fight a while back. You know, the one where you made some truly bizarre comments that were basically made up, and easily proved to be complete nonsense by me simply posting a youtube video of the fight. Bizarre.
You then ran away with your tail between your legs.
I'm not even Russian, and have no dog in this fight, but it's clear from wading through your anti-Russian bile that flows forth from most of your posts that you have serious issues.

Please don't quote me in future, as I generally don't respond to posters with such serious xenophobic issues such as you clearly have.

Note: Edited to correct some truly atrocious spelling from myself and my crappy phone working in tandem.
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Freedom2013 wrote:
kaiserbill wrote:So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
You are correct.

Chris Arreola atop short list to face Deontay Wilder this summer
Thanks.

So, no surprises there then. Oh well. :verysad:
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Freedom2013 wrote:
kaiserbill wrote:So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
You are correct.

Chris Arreola atop short list to face Deontay Wilder this summer
Troll troll troll
I thought Arreola was recently banned for using some illegal substance and according to Wilder it will make someone supernatural. Because Arreola might be supernatural ever since, Wilder shouldn't be fighting him or Wilder would risk his own life if he did.
I wonder why the WBC doesn't stop Wilder from doing this, it would be very very dangerous and every boxing involved should be punished.
Troll troll troll


For me Wilder is about the most silly boxer in the heavyweight scene, at least fight Whyte for example june 25, everything is taken care of already. Or fight Povetkin anyway, both are ready right now as far as I know.
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I would like to see Wilder vs Povetkin. I'm not holding my breath though. :verysad:

Arreola has only won 2 of his last 6 fights....I mean seriously?
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kaiserbill wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
kaiserbill wrote:So, Povetkin is clean.

I knew something was amiss with the indecent haste Wilder ran to catch a flight back home. He couldn't have ducked out of there faster if he'd tried.
He would have broken the Olympic 100m record....

I'm going to take a wild ass guess and say that Wilder will be fighting yet another bum next.... :roll:
So, he is not. Clean test month after dirty test do not clean the dirty one. All the Riabinsky bulshitting is just what it is - bullshit.
If not the Riabinsky's 4.5M$ at their account, Povetkin was banned three weeks ago for a year at least. Riabinsky's money is the only reason Povetkin was mandatory at the first place...
Look, I caught you out lying before in the other thread regarding the Wlad vs Povetkin fight a while back. You know, the one where you made some truly bizarre comments that were basically made up, and easily proved to be complete nonsense by me simply posting a youtube video of the fight. Bizarre.
You then ran away with your tail between your legs.
I'm not even Russian, and have no dog in this fight, but it's clear from wading through your anti-Russian bile that flows forth from most of your posts that you have serious issues.

Please don't quote me in future, as I generally don't respond to poster with such serious xenophobic issues such as you clearly have.
If you do not want to be quoted - do not write here. Write you comments to yourself on your diary.

You never caught me on everything, all the facts abour Klichko-Povetkin saga (including Povetkin cancelling the scheduled fights twice) are available by simple googling....Knowing russian helps a bit (and I'm fluent in Russian), but it's enough info in English.

Government money bought Povetkin title fight twice, and it's only his team foult he was caught...WBC and Wilder's team really wanted that money.
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Oh I most definitely did catch you lying Bigman1968. Are you this thick that you don't realise there is a search function on the forum? :roll:
It appears so, because you made up a bunch of rubbish and yet youtube is freely available for all to use. As is boxrec right here.
This makes your make-believe posts truly bizarre. :roll:
Here is your fairytale rubbish, one of the most bizarre posts/rants I've ever seen on the site, with the link directly to the conversation:
kaiserbill wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
kaiserbill wrote:
What a stupid post.
So please, explain me the stupid :geek:
Almost every single one of your sentences is factually incorrect or false.
You don't even have to leave Boxrec to do even the most basic of research.
most of his fight took place in Russia
Rubbish.
21 of his 31 fights have been outside Russia.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/318081
the vs Perez fight was badly fixed
More rubbish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6kFPCCo5aw
he met the canvas 4-5 times following jabs!!! Wlad had to hold him from falling to KO
More rubbish.
2nd round knockdown was from a left hook.
The 3 knockdowns in round 7 were:
1:from a straight overhand right followed by a push.
2; A hook, followed by a series of uppercuts whilst wrestling.
3: Straight right, uppercuts, and more wrestling and shoving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxF4QzdEDnQ

The "4-5 times" was actually 4 times, so no need to try and hyperbolise. They were not jabs, and a couple at least were dubious.
Povetkin complained about the shoving, and he has a point in at least some of that. Wlad was deducted a point later for persistent infringements.

The other stuff in your post is equally rubbish, and not even worth discussing.
There are actual boxing fans on this site who remember things and have access to the internet.
It is very difficult to figure out why on earth somebody would make a post like you did, with every single sentence basically being wrong.
I'm not surprised many others didn't bother to respond and "explain" as you requested after that drivel, as it is clearly going to be a waste of time.
Using lots of question marks and exclamation marks (!!!!???!!!) does not make something that is false into the truth.

It's Klitschko, by the way. You're misspelling/leaving out 25% of the letters of his surname.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 6#p4321886
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Bigman1968 is indeed wrong all the time, that's nothing new.
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asdfjkl wrote:Bigman1968 is indeed wrong all the time, that's nothing new.
He's like you then :OhYes:
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foxdog1923 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Bigman1968 is indeed wrong all the time, that's nothing new.
He's like you then :OhYes:
Wrong again...
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