Taishan Dong.....is his ascendancy to the championship inevitable?

[BoxBuzz]

I've read the various opinions and feedback about this guy with great interest.


But you've overlooked the most important dynamic and in doing so you have underestimated him.


Say what will .......but you cant deny he is tall. Awful tall.


That says it all. So like it or not.....Case closed.

[DaveyMac]

I've read the various opinions and feedback about this guy with great interest.


But you've overlooked the most important dynamic and in doing so you have underestimated him.


Say what will .......but you cant deny he is tall. Awful tall.


That says it all. So like it or not.....Case closed.

Is he taller than Marcellus Williams? :)

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I've been laughing like a Smash Martian this last week at this forum.

Keep it up guys!

[Dixonian]

Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.

It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER... Since Ali ate jabs.. got left hooked in the head a lot.. got knocked down.. jaw got his shattered.. got beaten up.. and got soundly trounced.. I don't think Ali, as great as he was, beat every boxer EVER ... did he???? ... A lot of people commented on Wilts' strength, speed, physical toughness and ruggedness, athleticism, massive 101" reach, and leading the NBA in scoring and rebounding year after year, that he seemed to have the athletic ability to make him a formidable boxer.. Especially when he flattened a bully 250lb forward.. However, Wilt found something out that Too Tall Jones found out years later.. If you're a great boxer and puncher you're not necessarily going to get appropriate fights with guys who will most likely get knocked colder than 7 barrels of penguin poo if they face you.

Did you know that Wilt Chamberlain was also the first man on the moon. He was able to jump that high...that's how athletic the guy was. He was amazing.

He also swam the Atlantic and Hit a Hole in One on all 18 holes the one time he played golf. True story.

Even Kim Jong Un was scared of playing Wilt at golf.

[Dixonian]

Btw, Taishan Dong is bloody awful. But who knows, he might get a championship with shrewd management. I mean, when you look at how Charles Martin got a world title, anything's possible.

[marvelous marv]

He is only like an inch and a half taller than Tyson Fury, without the skillset or athleticism.

[gp.]

I've read the various opinions and feedback about this guy with great interest.


But you've overlooked the most important dynamic and in doing so you have underestimated him.


Say what will .......but you cant deny he is tall. Awful tall.


That says it all. So like it or not.....Case closed.

He is tall....but, he has trained at boxing.

It's only tall people who have never made any attempt to box that are the greatest boxer ever. An important point.

If only Dong had never tried to box, he would clearly be unbeatable, like Wilt. It's a pity no trainers got to him early enough to prevent him from boxing and so realise his true greatness.

[Freedom2013]

Taishan Dong isn't a good boxer. He has ZERO chance of becoming a champion.

Zhang Zhilei is MUCH better, and could become a contender. He has to move up soon though, he's getting older.

[Controversial]

He is tall....but, he has trained at boxing.

It's only tall people who have never made any attempt to box that are the greatest boxer ever. An important point.

If only Dong had never tried to box, he would clearly be unbeatable, like Wilt. It's a pity no trainers got to him early enough to prevent him from boxing and so realise his true greatness.

Sooo true, wise words. I'm not sure how high he can jump, or how fast he can run but that can make all the difference as well.

[gilgamesh]

won the Superbowl single-handedly too, didn't he?

He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.

For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.

Nobody thinks Wilt Chamberlain wasn't a great Athlete. The jokes are on Kalan who believes he could've beaten Muhammad Ali in a Boxing Match.

[asdfjkl]

He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.

For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.

Nobody thinks Wilt Chamberlain wasn't a great Athlete. The jokes are on Kalan who believes he could've beaten Muhammad Ali in a Boxing Match.

With a differend way of growing up it's certainly not impossible. Boxing can be learned, in most other things he got the advantage, possibly even reflexes. Reach, strength, even stamina, I've heard more about unexpected sport stories/results. Skills and experience is the only thing he doesn't have.

[Controversial]

With a differend way of growing up it's certainly not impossible. Boxing can be learned, in most other things he got the advantage, possibly even reflexes. Reach, strength, even stamina, I've heard more about unexpected sport stories/results. Skills and experience is the only thing he doesn't have.

Yes boxing can be learnt but that doesn't mean everyone will be good at it. Even if they are good at it that doesn't mean they can take a punch, have stamina for a long fight, mental toughness or the ability to dig deep when the going gets hard. Sometimes even great amateurs flop when they turn pro for those very reasons. How fast someone can run, how high they can jump, bench press or basketball points they have scored is irrelevant.

[Kalan]

He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.

For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.

Nobody thinks Wilt Chamberlain wasn't a great Athlete. The jokes are on Kalan who believes he could've beaten Muhammad Ali in a Boxing Match.

The competition in the NBA is severe. Out of 50 million high school kids 4 million will play high school basketball... about 230 thousand of those will college basketball... about one out of every 550 of those will ever make it to the NBA even to warm the bench.

And you have to remember that many boxers are unskilled. Boxing is a different kind of sport than any other.. Boxing is very basic.. Angelo Dundee admitted that Ali never mastered some of the rudimentary fundamentals well, like defensive techniques and body punching. Boxing and playing Centers or Power Forwards in Basketball have many of the same athletic gifts boxers could use: height, weight, reach, strength, balance, endurance, toughness, speed, intelligence, sharp vision, super quick reactions, footwork and positioning, great arm strength and timing for rebounding, and great arm thrust for passing.

Okay...lets say nobody ever invented Basketball.. Lets say Boxing paid 10 times better for hundreds of athletes like the NBA does... Lets say all those 150 centers and power forwards who play in the NBA got into Heavyweight Boxing instead -- and started adapting their superior athletic talents to Boxing, in as serious a way as they fought for their NBA slots??? Do you think guys such as: Brian London, Dave Zyglewctz, Jean Pierre Coopman, Don Cockell, Tom McNeely, Chris Arreola, Pete Rademacher and many other less than dedicated and talented Heavyweights would have ever gotten Heavyweight Title Shots ahead of the best 10 Heavyweights out of those super talented NBA guys???

And remember... Wilt Chamberlain was the very best of those players who ever ran the court.

[Tony1244]

He also won the Nobel Prize for being the greatest great man to ever be great in all the history of greatness.

For the trollers, Chamberlain actually really was one of the best athletes in the world. He was one of the fastest quarter mile runners on the planet, while he was actually a basketballplayer. You might be impressed by Michael Jorden or whatever, but they were jokes compared to Chamberlain. A lot of it can actually be found back with google.

Nobody thinks Wilt Chamberlain wasn't a great Athlete. The jokes are on Kalan who believes he could've beaten Muhammad Ali in a Boxing Match.

Perhaps Chamberlain could have been a great boxer if he had started early. Even if he started in his 20s, Lyle did, and had the toughness he could have been quite good. We don't know if he had that level of toughness, but he sure had the level of athleticism. The joke is on anyone who believes anyone could beat a great fighter with ZERO boxing background.

[Controversial]

The competition in the NBA is severe. Out of 50 million high school kids 4 million will play high school basketball... about 230 thousand of those will college basketball... about one out of every 550 of those will ever make it to the NBA even to warm the bench.

And you have to remember that many boxers are unskilled. Boxing is a different kind of sport than any other.. Boxing is very basic.. Angelo Dundee admitted that Ali never mastered some of the rudimentary fundamentals well, like defensive techniques and body punching. Boxing and playing Centers or Power Forwards in Basketball have many of the same athletic gifts boxers could use: height, weight, reach, strength, balance, endurance, toughness, speed, intelligence, sharp vision, super quick reactions, footwork and positioning, great arm strength and timing for rebounding, and great arm thrust for passing.

Okay...lets say nobody ever invented Basketball.. Lets say Boxing paid 10 times better for hundreds of athletes like the NBA does... Lets say all those 150 centers and power forwards who play in the NBA got into Heavyweight Boxing instead -- and started adapting their superior athletic talents to Boxing, in as serious a way as they fought for their NBA slots??? Do you think guys such as: Brian London, Dave Zyglewctz, Jean Pierre Coopman, Don Cockell, Tom McNeely, Chris Arreola, Pete Rademacher and many other less than dedicated and talented Heavyweights would have ever gotten Heavyweight Title Shots ahead of the best 10 Heavyweights out of those super talented NBA guys???

And remember... Wilt Chamberlain was the very best of those players who ever ran the court.

That's a different argument all together. Of course by the law of averages there would be some successes but that's because they would be starting from scratch, learning the sport, building experience etc..., not fighting an ATG in their very first fight. Plus being the best basketball player doesn't mean you will be the best boxer.

[gilgamesh]

The competition in the NBA is severe. Out of 50 million high school kids 4 million will play high school basketball... about 230 thousand of those will college basketball... about one out of every 550 of those will ever make it to the NBA even to warm the bench.

And you have to remember that many boxers are unskilled. Boxing is a different kind of sport than any other.. Boxing is very basic.. Angelo Dundee admitted that Ali never mastered some of the rudimentary fundamentals well, like defensive techniques and body punching. Boxing and playing Centers or Power Forwards in Basketball have many of the same athletic gifts boxers could use: height, weight, reach, strength, balance, endurance, toughness, speed, intelligence, sharp vision, super quick reactions, footwork and positioning, great arm strength and timing for rebounding, and great arm thrust for passing.

Okay...lets say nobody ever invented Basketball.. Lets say Boxing paid 10 times better for hundreds of athletes like the NBA does... Lets say all those 150 centers and power forwards who play in the NBA got into Heavyweight Boxing instead -- and started adapting their superior athletic talents to Boxing, in as serious a way as they fought for their NBA slots??? Do you think guys such as: Brian London, Dave Zyglewctz, Jean Pierre Coopman, Don Cockell, Tom McNeely, Chris Arreola, Pete Rademacher and many other less than dedicated and talented Heavyweights would have ever gotten Heavyweight Title Shots ahead of the best 10 Heavyweights out of those super talented NBA guys???

And remember... Wilt Chamberlain was the very best of those players who ever ran the court.

Wilt Chamberlain was also the best Baseball Player of all time. He never played at a high level, but several Major Leaguers said they do as well as they do because they hit the ball the way they imagine Wilt would've, and that's why they're in the majors.

[Cutman Scabbers]

What a lot of people don't know -- even those who follow horse racing -- is that Wilt Chamberlain
was also one of the greatest jockeys of all time.

[BoxBuzz]

What a lot of people don't know -- even those who follow horse racing -- is that Wilt Chamberlain
was also one of the greatest jockeys of all time.

Well that's pretty controversial, he had the distinct advantage of height....and on the few times in exhibitions races when he actually competed he would stand directly above the horse and run with him, never actually sitting or placing his weight on the animal, while keeping up with whatever pace the horse happen to set.

The jockey licensing commission were worried the horses might get hurt if Wilt should stumble and fall on one of them.

Wilt was generous enough of a person to bow out before the conflict hit the courts. Thus allowing the sport of horseracing to continue to be dominated by the "little guy".

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Yeah...he's no Wilt Chamberlain. That guy was so good he could've beaten every Boxer ever, and he didn't even have to fight once to prove how good he was.

It wasn't Wilt Chamberlain's goal to beat every boxer EVER... Since Ali ate jabs.. got left hooked in the head a lot.. got knocked down.. jaw got his shattered.. got beaten up.. and got soundly trounced.. I don't think Ali, as great as he was, beat every boxer EVER ... did he???? ... A lot of people commented on Wilts' strength, speed, physical toughness and ruggedness, athleticism, massive 101" reach, and leading the NBA in scoring and rebounding year after year, that he seemed to have the athletic ability to make him a formidable boxer.. Especially when he flattened a bully 250lb forward.. However, Wilt found something out that Too Tall Jones found out years later.. If you're a great boxer and puncher you're not necessarily going to get appropriate fights with guys who will most likely get knocked colder than 7 barrels of penguin poo if they face you.

Did you know that Wilt Chamberlain was also the first man on the moon. He was able to jump that high...that's how athletic the guy was. He was amazing.

He also swam the Atlantic and Hit a Hole in One on all 18 holes the one time he played golf. True story.

Wilt Chamberlain: What a guy!

[asdfjkl]

I heard Chamberlain was actually the big brother of Chuck Norris, Chuck is pretty good in everything written above as well.

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I think Wilt Chamberlain should be in the next Marvel's Avenger's film.

Captain America, Thor, Iron Man & The Incredible Hulk have got nothing on Chamberlain!

[Kalan]

The competition in the NBA is severe. Out of 50 million high school kids 4 million will play high school basketball... about 230 thousand of those will college basketball... about one out of every 550 of those will ever make it to the NBA even to warm the bench.

And you have to remember that many boxers are unskilled. Boxing is a different kind of sport than any other.. Boxing is very basic.. Angelo Dundee admitted that Ali never mastered some of the rudimentary fundamentals well, like defensive techniques and body punching. Boxing and playing Centers or Power Forwards in Basketball have many of the same athletic gifts boxers could use: height, weight, reach, strength, balance, endurance, toughness, speed, intelligence, sharp vision, super quick reactions, footwork and positioning, great arm strength and timing for rebounding, and great arm thrust for passing.

Okay...lets say nobody ever invented Basketball.. Lets say Boxing paid 10 times better for hundreds of athletes like the NBA does... Lets say all those 150 centers and power forwards who play in the NBA got into Heavyweight Boxing instead -- and started adapting their superior athletic talents to Boxing, in as serious a way as they fought for their NBA slots??? Do you think guys such as: Brian London, Dave Zyglewctz, Jean Pierre Coopman, Don Cockell, Tom McNeely, Chris Arreola, Pete Rademacher and many other less than dedicated and talented Heavyweights would have ever gotten Heavyweight Title Shots ahead of the best 10 Heavyweights out of those super talented NBA guys???

And remember... Wilt Chamberlain was the very best of those players who ever ran the court.

That's a different argument all together. Of course by the law of averages there would be some successes but that's because they would be starting from scratch, learning the sport, building experience etc..., not fighting an ATG in their very first fight. Plus being the best basketball player doesn't mean you will be the best boxer.

The best basketball player won't be the best boxer if he's a GUARD obviously. Huge Centers and Power Forwards are the target.

The only guard who might be good is Magic Johnson. At his peak he would have made a pretty good Heavyweight with his speed, height, reach, raw intelligence and cleverness.. With 6 months of very serious training I could see Magic giving Ali fits.. But very few guards are 6'9" X 225 and as long limbed, fast, and deceptive and clever as Johnson.. The caliber of athlete you got in the NBA for Power Forward and Center if top trainers saw some of them walking into a Boxing Gym they'd do back flips... Power Forwards like: Karl Malone, Kermit Washington, Anthony Mason, Maurice Lucas, Charles Barkley, LaBron James and a bunch of others... Henry Gallatin was a tough rebounder I watched as kid ... There are Forwards who'd be terrible: Chris Bosh, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan, Kevin McHale, would be too weak and soft.. Most people would say Blake Griffin, but he doesn't seem tough enough to me.. I might take DeAndre Jordan first.. It's more than just size and strength and even how fast they are under the boards... A Heavyweight Fighter needs attitude.. I watch the way a guy carries himself and if anybody fks with him.

[asdfjkl]

I think Wilt Chamberlain should be in the next Marvel's Avenger's film.

Captain America, Thor, Iron Man & The Incredible Hulk have got nothing on Chamberlain!

Yea, and we call it Conan the destroyer!

[PredatorHayds]

What a lot of people don't know -- even those who follow horse racing -- is that Wilt Chamberlain
was also one of the greatest jockeys of all time.

Well that's pretty controversial, he had the distinct advantage of height....and on the few times in exhibitions races when he actually competed he would stand directly above the horse and run with him, never actually sitting or placing his weight on the animal, while keeping up with whatever pace the horse happen to set.

The jockey licensing commission were worried the horses might get hurt if Wilt should stumble and fall on one of them.

Wilt was generous enough of a person to bow out before the conflict hit the courts. Thus allowing the sport of horseracing to continue to be dominated by the "little guy".

The jockey comment is actually true.

He started as a jockey but soon realised he was faster than the horses, so he'd jump off mid race and win the race by himself.

[gp.]

With six months training, Wilt Chamberlain could have been the most beautiful woman of all time.