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Ike Ibeaubuchi

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http://boxrec.com/boxer/5981
Release in 2015 and Planned 2016 Comeback

Ibeabuchi was finally released from Federal incarceration and immigration in November 2015. He has hired Manny Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz to guide his comeback attempt at age 43, and will return to the ring in early 2016

He was very good in their time,won Tua and Byrd, score 20-0 have.
Private concerns and violations of the laws he was stopped to make a top career.

How do you seem like a boxer and how he really was good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZCHNVj-Ro
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Overrated by many, I would like to have seen him fight Bowe.
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ibeabuchi would have murdered the super hittable Bowe. Bowe refused to fight Lewis, Mercer, Tyson, McCall, and even Ruddock. Bowe was easy to hit and hated to fight big powerful hitters... Bowe's limit was the woeful punching bag Andrew Golota - who was dispatched by Lewis, Tyson, and Brewster in the 1st round. Even the super slow and clumsy Michael Grant beat up Golota and stopped him. Bowe never fought a good hitter so I don't see him matching up with a killer Ike Ibeabuchi... Chris Byrd said.., "Ike was the future of the Heavyweight Division if he stayed out of jail. Boxing DavidTua and Boxing Ike Ibeabuchi is like the difference between facing Jameel McCline and Wladimir Klitschko."
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When did Chris Byrd make these remarks? Just curious.

And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.

So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.
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Kalan wrote:Chris Byrd said.., "Ike was the future of the Heavyweight Division if he stayed out of jail. Boxing DavidTua and Boxing Ike Ibeabuchi is like the difference between facing Jameel McCline and Wladimir Klitschko."
Are you sure Bird said that? And even if he did, he must've seen a different fight cos that was a GOOD even fight. I had it a draw.

Anyway, I heard Ibeabuchi is mentally unstable. Like assault his own mother type unstable, not saying that's what he done but you get the picture.
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Anyone who gives Ike a license to box should be banished from the sport.

He's obviously not the healthiest mentally and the last thing he needs is hits to the head.
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BoxBuzz wrote:When did Chris Byrd make these remarks? Just curious.

And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.

So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.

Never mind I looked it up and I found out he said it at 7:30
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PredatorHayds wrote:Anyone who gives Ike a license to box should be banished from the sport.
Id say that's just the kind of person boxing welcomes with into their sport with a warm embrace.

Such a person is made for the boxing world
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BoxBuzz wrote:And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.
So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.
Take into account he had no amateur experience (at least nothing worth mentioning) and he was still improving. He was jailed in 99, so you can easily imagine him winning with aging Holy in 2000, or (with some luck) upsetting Lewis the way Rahman did it.
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gregor wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.
So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.
Take into account he had no amateur experience (at least nothing worth mentioning) and he was still improving. He was jailed in 99, so you can easily imagine him winning with aging Holy in 2000, or (with some luck) upsetting Lewis the way Rahman did it.
Totally NOT beyond possibility IF he could have kept his head on straight.....

oops wait...probably want to strike that, because SADLY...he could never hope to keep his head on straight.

He just lost it BEFORE he managed to show how good he was...versus Monzon, who lost it after he was able to demo the goods.
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BoxBuzz wrote:When did Chris Byrd make these remarks? Just curious.

And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.

So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.
You're badly misinformed.. Ibeabuchi had 15 fights coming in to maybe 28 for Tua and he won by UD... It was easy because he was too big, strong, and fast for Tua... But Byrd fought them both and easily beat the sloooooooow and available Tua... but was crushed by the speedy and powerful Ibeabuchi ... who was a little more advanced when he faced Byrd because Ike had 19 fights by then.
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Kalan wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:When did Chris Byrd make these remarks? Just curious.

And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.

So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.
You're badly misinformed.. Ibeabuchi had 15 fights coming in to maybe 28 for Tua and he won by UD... It was easy because he was too big, strong, and fast for Tua... But Byrd fought them both and easily beat the sloooooooow and available Tua... but was crushed by the speedy and powerful Ibeabuchi ... who was a little more advanced when he faced Byrd because Ike had 19 fights by then.

I'm not misinformed, I just watched the fight again.....am I going to believe you or my lying eyes? It was a close fight. You can say he won, and he did get the nod so that's fine. I'm not claiming a robbery, just that close fights can be seen differently. Or did you not get the memo?

Anyhow, Byrd was doing pretty well outslicking Ike until he got tagged....or did you not notice that? Might want to take a second look at that fight.


But you didn't really answer my question....now did you? That's ok....I don't think you have an answer...but if you do, please share!
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BoxBuzz wrote:
Kalan wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:When did Chris Byrd make these remarks? Just curious.

And by the way, Tua honestly probably edged that fight.

So you talkin' a fighter roughly equal to Tua's level here.
You're badly misinformed.. Ibeabuchi had 15 fights coming in to maybe 28 for Tua and he won by UD... It was easy because he was too big, strong, and fast for Tua... But Byrd fought them both and easily beat the sloooooooow and available Tua... but was crushed by the speedy and powerful Ibeabuchi ... who was a little more advanced when he faced Byrd because Ike had 19 fights by then.

I'm not misinformed, I just watched the fight again.....am I going to believe you or my lying eyes? It was a close fight. You can say he won, and he did get the nod so that's fine. I'm not claiming a robbery, just that close fights can be seen differently. Or did you not get the memo?

Anyhow, Byrd was doing pretty well outslicking Ike until he got tagged....or did you not notice that? Might want to take a second look at that fight.


But you didn't really answer my question....now did you? That's ok....I don't think you have an answer...but if you do, please share!
I answered the questions that were relevant, made sense, and were not just argumentative... Ibeabuchi won a well deserved UD.. People see things differently NO SHlT!!! That's why there's 12 judges in Gymnastics, Diving, and Figure Skating and they throw out the high and low scores... That's why they use 3 judges in Pro Boxing and 5 in Amateur Boxing... It's an attempt to get the right winner because somebody might not be paying really good attention on that particular day ... or might be biased or whatever.. I think Boxing should use at least 7 judges.. They use a lot more than that in some sports and they usually get the right winner.
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Ibeabuchi was an incredible physical specimen, no doubt. He could box pretty well too. Curtis Cokes certainly trained him well. I don't think he would have beaten Lewis but I think he could've been the toughest fight of Lewis' career, outside of Klitschko. That war against Tua probably shortened Tua's prime considerably. Now, I doubt Ike has much left in the tank. I also question his mental fitness for boxing. Getting licensed is going to be a real challenge for him, especially with all the negative press about concussions and brain damage, nowadays. That said, I don't know that he has any other choice than to fight.
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Very good fighter, his mental weakness would have come out eventually. Probably if he fought Lennox. Great performance against Byrd. The Tua fight is right there with the Rumble in the Jungle and Holyfield/Tyson 1 as the most overrated fights imo. At the least the other two were great events.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, his mental weakness would have come out eventually. Probably if he fought Lennox. Great performance against Byrd. The Tua fight is right there with the Rumble in the Jungle and Holyfield/Tyson 1 as the most overrated fights imo. At the least the other two were great events.
I agree about Ibeabuchi vs Tua. I've seen it. It's a fun fight, but not the classic the internet has built it up as.
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gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, his mental weakness would have come out eventually. Probably if he fought Lennox. Great performance against Byrd. The Tua fight is right there with the Rumble in the Jungle and Holyfield/Tyson 1 as the most overrated fights imo. At the least the other two were great events.
I agree about Ibeabuchi vs Tua. I've seen it. It's a fun fight, but not the classic the internet has built it up as.
You gotta watch the whole fight with the volume up. You can hear the power in those punches. Yeah I know some slap punches can sound loud but there's two don't slap. There's also a lot of big shots NOT on the highlights from both fighters. For a heavyweight contest, I think it boasts more punches than any one heavyweight fight in the history of boxing. I was told this but I can't remember whom from (think it was TV commentary) AND I'm not sure if it included the most punches thrown in a 15 round heavyweight clash.

Rumble in the Jungle will only be overrated by the young fans. You had to alive around this times to see how great that fight and a lot of Ali's fights were.

Holyfield Tyson sucked for me cos I'm a Tyson fan.
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Very good fighter, his mental weakness would have come out eventually. Probably if he fought Lennox. Great performance against Byrd. The Tua fight is right there with the Rumble in the Jungle and Holyfield/Tyson 1 as the most overrated fights imo. At the least the other two were great events.
Agreed SaadOffTheDeck...some of the mental illness was allegedly apparent at an early stage but seems to have been viewed as eccentricity.
By and large the sport has got progressively better at caring for people physically but the mental well-being lags behind.
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foxdog1923 wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, his mental weakness would have come out eventually. Probably if he fought Lennox. Great performance against Byrd. The Tua fight is right there with the Rumble in the Jungle and Holyfield/Tyson 1 as the most overrated fights imo. At the least the other two were great events.
I agree about Ibeabuchi vs Tua. I've seen it. It's a fun fight, but not the classic the internet has built it up as.
You gotta watch the whole fight with the volume up. You can hear the power in those punches. Yeah I know some slap punches can sound loud but there's two don't slap. There's also a lot of big shots NOT on the highlights from both fighters. For a heavyweight contest, I think it boasts more punches than any one heavyweight fight in the history of boxing. I was told this but I can't remember whom from (think it was TV commentary) AND I'm not sure if it included the most punches thrown in a 15 round heavyweight clash.

Rumble in the Jungle will only be overrated by the young fans. You had to alive around this times to see how great that fight and a lot of Ali's fights were.

Holyfield Tyson sucked for me cos I'm a Tyson fan.
No drama in tua/Ike, Ali/foreman was a great event and a solid fight. It's overrated because people act like it's one of the greatest fights ever. Holyfield/Tyson might be my favorite fight as it was the culmination of me telling anyone that would listen for almost 10 years that evander would kick his ass. Still not a great fight, just an historic event.
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foxdog1923 wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Very good fighter, his mental weakness would have come out eventually. Probably if he fought Lennox. Great performance against Byrd. The Tua fight is right there with the Rumble in the Jungle and Holyfield/Tyson 1 as the most overrated fights imo. At the least the other two were great events.
I agree about Ibeabuchi vs Tua. I've seen it. It's a fun fight, but not the classic the internet has built it up as.
You gotta watch the whole fight with the volume up. You can hear the power in those punches. Yeah I know some slap punches can sound loud but there's two don't slap. There's also a lot of big shots NOT on the highlights from both fighters. For a heavyweight contest, I think it boasts more punches than any one heavyweight fight in the history of boxing. I was told this but I can't remember whom from (think it was TV commentary) AND I'm not sure if it included the most punches thrown in a 15 round heavyweight clash.

Rumble in the Jungle will only be overrated by the young fans. You had to alive around this times to see how great that fight and a lot of Ali's fights were.

Holyfield Tyson sucked for me cos I'm a Tyson fan.
I've watched Tua/Ibeabuchi multiple times.
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Having a war with Tua would have probably shortened Ike's career, although we will never know. Although you might argue the shots he took in that fight might have helped 'speed up' his mental issues!

He was a talent, no doubt, but having to sit there and take huge shots off Tua suggests to me he wasn't good enough to be top of the tree, elite level. He went life and death with him in a very close fight. Compare that to what Lewis did against Tua. Tua landed about 6 punches all night and was completely outclassed.
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lillywhite14 wrote:He was a talent, no doubt, but having to sit there and take huge shots off Tua suggests to me he wasn't good enough to be top of the tree, elite level. He went life and death with him in a very close fight. Compare that to what Lewis did against Tua.
For me, to the contrary, it shows Ike had huge potential (and a lot to improve, I agree). Outboxing Tua was quite easy - many tried it, and most of them were successfull, though only for a couple of rounds - Nicholson, Oquendo, Maskaev, etc.

But Ike just fought completely wrong fight... and the thing is that he still won...again, I have no problem if someone had Tua by one point, that is nor the issue here. So while the fight may be overrated in some aspects, it definitely proved Ike had iron chin as well as unbelievable stamina (breaking punchstats records... watch just six rounds of Lewis-Klitshcko to compare).

And, frankly, at that time HW was wide open... apart from Lewis it is difficult to find someone to be a clear favourite against Ike... Holy was aging and his trilogy with Ruiz was a draw on the average, Tyson was only technically active... Wlad even a couple of years later went life and death with Peter, who was just poor man version of Ike.
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A contender in his time... but all these years later boxing will just be a payday for him

I think Lewis would still have beaten him had they fought in the late 90s
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