Negatives On Floyd's Legacy

Stuarty
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Re: Negatives On Floyd's Legacy

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scallum2015 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:He waited and fought Cotto, Pacquiao and Mosely after they were past their best. All three of them in their pomp would have had a fair chance against Floyd. He's been well managed.
Lol Mosley wanted no part of young Floyd and Arum didn't feel Cotto could deal with Floyd. I do think The Manny fight shouldve happened earlier but even if it did Wouldn't be much difference. Floyd is too smart, cautious and defensively competent for Manny Pacquiao to have won
It's al well n good saying that but we'll never know will we. Mayweather is a hell of a fighter but there will always be question marks because of the guys he avoided. He's not 'TBE' as he likes to call himself that is a fact...
Kalan
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Re: Negatives On Floyd's Legacy

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Badhusker wrote:Its easy to find negatives for most any boxer's legacy, but a few of the ones mentioned in this thread questionable, and some are laughable.

Floyd called out both Mosley and DLH in the early 2000's, and would have moved up to fight them. Neither were interested. When he did fight DLH, it was at 154, and Floyd was outweighed by 16 or 17 lbs fight night. If Floyd would have fought DLH at 147, there would not be a discussion about DLH beating him earlier. We saw a year or so later how DLH performed at 147. DLH had just turned 34, so to say he was way past his prime is a stretch, with only about 40 fights.

When Floyd fought Mosley in 2010, Pacquiao had turned him (Mosley) down for a fight with Roach saying he was too dangerous, too good of a fighter. Mosley was the #1 or #2 welter at the time. Roach and many others said Floyd would never take that fight.

When Cotto was in his "prime", never did he make an offer to fight Floyd, and had not after that either. Hell, Cotto didn't even fight the other top 140 guys at the time, when Tszyu, Ricky Hatton, Mayeather, and Arturo Gatti were all at the weight. Cotto was struggling to make 147, so the 145 lb catchweight wasn't a good idea for him. Floyd eventually fought him at 154, so like DLH, was a much better version than what Pac fought.

Pacquiao ducked the test, and pulled out of the fight because of it in 2010, and Roach later admitted the fight not happening then was on them. Still, some of you think Floyd did the ducking. For some reason, Pacquiao refused to be randomly tested during his "prime".

Floyd also gets criticized for fighting JMM, who called Floyd out after his retirement of nearly 2 years. JMM was #2pfp at the time, and the odds were only 2-1 in Floyds favor. I suppose someone will spin that as a negative on his legacy too.
JMM had to jump up 2 weight divisions and Floyd missed the contract weight of 144 by 2 pounds... He had to pay a 600,000 dollar fine to JMM who didn't have a chance in Hell... He fought Floyd for the money.
ClivePatrickLyons
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Re: Negatives On Floyd's Legacy

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Over the last 40 year's I haven't ever seen a fighter like Floyd demanding his opponent's wear certain brand's of glove's what water bottle they can drink from talking poo about the A side and the B side and the worst of the worst hand picking and refusing to fight men that were in their absolute prime avoiding his biggest Challenge's so he gets to keep his O on his record keep away from Mosley/Pacman/Cotto when they were at their peak that's something that Legends usually do not do and then he wants this boxing match with a UFC fighter but he won't touch GGG with a ten foot pole did they ever put it too GGG about a catchweight fight ask him what glove's he'd be willing to wear and what water bottle he would be willing to drink from.And to top it all off he disrespects THE GREATEST [ALI] THE MOST POPULAR FIGHTER PROBABLY OF ALL TIME...Floyd not TBE :oo

Plenty of fighters have done this. Floyd didn't invent this shite.

Your opinion is ok with me but after 40 year's I don't need someone to tell me Floyd aint the first........when did I say he invented anything your right with one thing it is SHITE yes other fighter's have done it before Floyd [ looking for every advantage possible ] but no-one and I repeat no-one as ever done the SHITE on par with Floyd he's a joke.
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