Foreman vs Norton - Analysis

[evrenb]

This has to be the best post fight Analysis of this great encounter : -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7P2yYYGs8

enjoy

[Kalan]

The best post fight analysis is that it was a horrible style matchup for Norton.

Kenny did very well with light hitting boxers – but he carried his left hand way below his waist. He threw awkward, predictable jabs and hooks from that position, making him wide open for right hands from a big puncher who stayed right in front of him – or walked him down continuously like Foreman was doing. The matchup was impossibly awkward for Norton, because Kenny tried to cross block right hands with his right. He used a cross armed defense and was also wide open for left hooks and body shots from any big puncher who stayed on top of him. Foreman executed the first knockdown with 5 consecutive right handers and didn’t miss one of them.

Norton gave up his height, leaning forward with his head. He had the most awkward stance in the world to fight a big puncher because he gave you his head to shoot at. If a puncher hits you once he’s going to keep throwing. Norton’s style worked surprising well versus Ali and Young. He was able to trap Ali on the ropes and in corners. He was stronger than Ali and able to tee off on him like Frazier did, but with more effectiveness because of his size. Young and Ali jabbed Foreman in the face, popped him with quick right hands, moved around the ring better, didn’t give up their height with a low, wide stance, and defended better. George couldn’t walk in and punch them out so easily.

[gilgamesh]

This has to be the best post fight Analysis of this great encounter : -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7P2yYYGs8

enjoy

You should've said it was Richard Pryor. I'd have watched it sooner

[BoxBuzz]

The best post fight analysis is that it was a horrible style matchup for Norton.

Kenny did very well with light hitting boxers – but he carried his left hand way below his waist. He threw awkward, predictable jabs and hooks from that position, making him wide open for right hands from a big puncher who stayed right in front of him – or walked him down continuously like Foreman was doing. The matchup was impossibly awkward for Norton, because Kenny tried to cross block right hands with his right. He used a cross armed defense and was also wide open for left hooks and body shots from any big puncher who stayed on top of him. Foreman executed the first knockdown with 5 consecutive right handers and didn’t miss one of them.

Norton gave up his height, leaning forward with his head. He had the most awkward stance in the world to fight a big puncher because he gave you his head to shoot at. If a puncher hits you once he’s going to keep throwing. Norton’s style worked surprising well versus Ali and Young. He was able to trap Ali on the ropes and in corners. He was stronger than Ali and able to tee off on him like Frazier did, but with more effectiveness because of his size. Young and Ali jabbed Foreman in the face, popped him with quick right hands, moved around the ring better, didn’t give up their height with a low, wide stance, and defended better. George couldn’t walk in and punch them out so easily.

So would Kenny be fodder for Frazier as well?

[Tony1244]

Foreman really had a nice jab here. He forgot that jab against Ali and Jimmy Young. Great jab and great power.

[Counter-puncher]

The best post fight analysis is that it was a horrible style matchup for Norton.

Kenny did very well with light hitting boxers – but he carried his left hand way below his waist. He threw awkward, predictable jabs and hooks from that position, making him wide open for right hands from a big puncher who stayed right in front of him – or walked him down continuously like Foreman was doing. The matchup was impossibly awkward for Norton, because Kenny tried to cross block right hands with his right. He used a cross armed defense and was also wide open for left hooks and body shots from any big puncher who stayed on top of him. Foreman executed the first knockdown with 5 consecutive right handers and didn’t miss one of them.

Norton gave up his height, leaning forward with his head. He had the most awkward stance in the world to fight a big puncher because he gave you his head to shoot at. If a puncher hits you once he’s going to keep throwing. Norton’s style worked surprising well versus Ali and Young. He was able to trap Ali on the ropes and in corners. He was stronger than Ali and able to tee off on him like Frazier did, but with more effectiveness because of his size. Young and Ali jabbed Foreman in the face, popped him with quick right hands, moved around the ring better, didn’t give up their height with a low, wide stance, and defended better. George couldn’t walk in and punch them out so easily.

Nope, Pryor's was better

[Cutman Scabbers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQs5-hOcCM0

[Kalan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQs5-hOcCM0

The LMAO funniest thing about this fight???? Announcer Bob Sheridan's biased interpretation of the action... Sheridan said "Norton went 24 rounds with Muhammad Ali and that's a Masters Degree in Boxing in ANY man's book." and "Norton is a very positive thinker. He won the Napoleon Hill award for Positive Thinking" after all Norton did during the stare down was look at the floor like a doomed man headed for the gallows... and when Foreman was beating the crap out of Norton to close the 1st round, "Foreman seems to be feeling Norton out here, a very even 1st round."

[Kalan]

So would Kenny be fodder for Frazier as well?

Are you kidding??? Norton would have beaten the crap out Frazier. Too big and strong for him. Norton wanted the fight. Frazier didn't. It wouldn't have been a mercifully short beating like Foreman-Frazier. That was savage. It would have been a brutal 15 round beating for the little tyke.

[Syntax Error]

The best post fight analysis is that it was a horrible style matchup for Norton.

Kenny did very well with light hitting boxers – but he carried his left hand way below his waist. He threw awkward, predictable jabs and hooks from that position, making him wide open for right hands from a big puncher who stayed right in front of him – or walked him down continuously like Foreman was doing. The matchup was impossibly awkward for Norton, because Kenny tried to cross block right hands with his right. He used a cross armed defense and was also wide open for left hooks and body shots from any big puncher who stayed on top of him. Foreman executed the first knockdown with 5 consecutive right handers and didn’t miss one of them.

Norton gave up his height, leaning forward with his head. He had the most awkward stance in the world to fight a big puncher because he gave you his head to shoot at. If a puncher hits you once he’s going to keep throwing. Norton’s style worked surprising well versus Ali and Young. He was able to trap Ali on the ropes and in corners. He was stronger than Ali and able to tee off on him like Frazier did, but with more effectiveness because of his size. Young and Ali jabbed Foreman in the face, popped him with quick right hands, moved around the ring better, didn’t give up their height with a low, wide stance, and defended better. George couldn’t walk in and punch them out so easily.

Spot on analysis.

[Caractacus]

"Norton is in Queersville,he doesnt know were he is".

I wonder for which televised fight,that that was the last time that phrase was ever used ?

[Kalan]

"Norton is in Queersville,he doesnt know were he is".

I wonder for which televised fight,that that was the last time that phrase was ever used ?

LOL... That's a phrase heard often in Boxing before the 70's.. "He's on Queer Street" or "He's in Queersville" ... You couldn't say that today

[BoxBuzz]

So would Kenny be fodder for Frazier as well?

Are you kidding??? Norton would have beaten the crap out Frazier. Too big and strong for him. Norton wanted the fight. Frazier didn't. It wouldn't have been a mercifully short beating like Foreman-Frazier. That was savage. It would have been a brutal 15 round beating for the little tyke.

Once again, you realize you are representing the rather tiny minority viewpoint, right?

I mean, this is probably another 10 to 1 ratio.......

[Kalan]

So would Kenny be fodder for Frazier as well?

Are you kidding??? Norton would have beaten the crap out Frazier. Too big and strong for him. Norton wanted the fight. Frazier didn't. It wouldn't have been a mercifully short beating like Foreman-Frazier. That was savage. It would have been a brutal 15 round beating for the little tyke.

Once again, you realize you are representing the rather tiny minority viewpoint, right?

I mean, this is probably another 10 to 1 ratio.......

I don't think they'd be 10-1 in favor of Frazier... People are a lot smarter than that... But there was a tiny minority of a tiny minority who thought Buster Douglas would beat Mike Tyson -- much less BEAT THE HOLY FREAKIN' HELL OUT OF HIM!!!!