lefty wrote:I dont really enjoy amateur boxing. I remember watching it live at the london games 2012 for the first time and it was just too frenetic for me. It seems to favour high output guys, quantity versus quality. Kinda makes me wonder how Rigondeaux had so much success in that side of the sport.
He boxed in the computer scoring age which favoured hit and don't get hit.
He boxed on the back foot and countered like the majority of Cuban amateurs.
If anything he hadn't adapted his style much as a pro and the Francisco fight was the worst to date. I'm a huge Rigo fan but hate to admit I fell asleep during the fight something I've never done previously.
Wales wrote:Only 2 more qualifying tournaments isn't there? Venezuela and Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan isn't open to pros so only Olympic chance of qualifying is in the comp in Venezuela in 4 weeks (first week in July ) surely too early for any pros.
changes will happen in 2020 with pros having ample time to prepare, qualify and adjust
WTF was AIBA thinking with putting the tournament in Venezuela? The gov't is about to be overthrown, it is not a safe place to be right now. Back in the winter they had an America's continental Olympic qualifier there and the R/J's were told they could not leave the hotel or boxing venue to walk around for fear of being kidnapped. I think AIBA knows not many pros especially good ones will show up there on short notice and AIBA can then say...see we had pros in the Olympics and it was no big deal. Now 2020 will be different as pros who actually think about trying to box in the Olympics will have time to adjust to the fast 3 rd pace. Watch though...AIBA will make them sign with them in order to fight in the '20 Olympics. It's all part of the big plan for CK Wu to take over all of boxing.
Lomachenko actually thinks that many professionals wouldn't be able to handle daily weigh-ins, multiple fights, higher pace and short fights. Some could lose, and it will keep most of professionals away.
Lomo is correct. making weight will be big factor and of course the pace of a 3 rd fight.
boxing_rocks wrote:Beterbiev is seriously considering.
He could win gold this time. He lost in '08 to Xiaoping of China because the fix was in. I was the ref for that fight. I wish I knew the fix was in so I could have helped try to make the outcome different. Xiaoping went on to get another robbery against Kenny Egan of Ireland to win the gold medal fight.
Beterbiev lost to Oleksandr Usyk in London '12 Olympics. Usyk also went on to win gold. I think Beterbiev would like to win gold and now he would have a chance.....that's if Russia would let him take that spot over another boxer and him living in Canada. Russia like many of the former Soviet countries pay good money for winning gold medals.
Wales wrote:Only 2 more qualifying tournaments isn't there? Venezuela and Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan isn't open to pros so only Olympic chance of qualifying is in the comp in Venezuela in 4 weeks (first week in July ) surely too early for any pros.
changes will happen in 2020 with pros having ample time to prepare, qualify and adjust
WTF was AIBA thinking with putting the tournament in Venezuela? The gov't is about to be overthrown, it is not a safe place to be right now. Back in the winter they had an America's continental Olympic qualifier there and the R/J's were told they could not leave the hotel or boxing venue to walk around for fear of being kidnapped. I think AIBA knows not many pros especially good ones will show up there on short notice and AIBA can then say...see we had pros in the Olympics and it was no big deal. Now 2020 will be different as pros who actually think about trying to box in the Olympics will have time to adjust to the fast 3 rd pace. Watch though...AIBA will make them sign with them in order to fight in the '20 Olympics. It's all part of the big plan for CK Wu to take over all of boxing.
Wouldn't be a bad thing for a single individual to take over all of boxing for a period, UFC blueprint. Whether a 70 year old Chinese former basketball player is the man for the job is another matter ;)
Never happen. Fragmentation is increasing and will continue to do so.
There seems to be an increasing number of pro boxers putting up their hands saying they want to fight at Rio. It will be interesting to see who actually goes and how they fare. I will none of them were going myself.
Like a Boss wrote:There seems to be an increasing number of pro boxers putting up their hands saying they want to fight at Rio. It will be interesting to see who actually goes and how they fare. I will none of them were going myself.
Pro's that go should be ashamed and ridiculed. The olympics has historically served as an outstanding platform for amatuers to break into the pro's. From Ali to Forenan to Ward to Joshua, etc. Pro's had their chance already. Robbing up and coming ams of opportunities afforded to them before is a damn disgrace.
scallum2015 wrote:I doubt any top notch pros wanna go thru the hassles of Making weight every day for Olympics trails and Olympics for no $$$$ :)
No money??? In some countries in Asia, winning a gold is like hitting the big lottery. I've heard of boxers getting homes, cars and lots of money for winning a gold. Former Soviet countries pay good money for gold and even US athletes get something like $25 K from the USOC for gold medals. Marlen Esparza turned her bronze in London into $250 K with endorsements. Just because athletes are so called "amateurs" dosen't mean they don't make any money.
scallum2015 wrote:I doubt any top notch pros wanna go thru the hassles of Making weight every day for Olympics trails and Olympics for no $$$$ :)
No money??? In some countries in Asia, winning a gold is like hitting the big lottery. I've heard of boxers getting homes, cars and lots of money for winning a gold. Former Soviet countries pay good money for gold and even US athletes get something like $25 K from the USOC for gold medals. Marlen Esparza turned her bronze in London into $250 K with endorsements. Just because athletes are so called "amateurs" dosen't mean they don't make any money.
I mean guys like Canelo, Cotto, Manny Pacquiao, Wilder, Klitschko... They are not gonna go Thru the rigors of Olympic style boxing and Making weight for no $$$ 25k is no $$$ for Top level guys . Lesser pros with 20 or less fights some may do it
scallum2015 wrote:I doubt any top notch pros wanna go thru the hassles of Making weight every day for Olympics trails and Olympics for no $$$$ :)
No money??? In some countries in Asia, winning a gold is like hitting the big lottery. I've heard of boxers getting homes, cars and lots of money for winning a gold. Former Soviet countries pay good money for gold and even US athletes get something like $25 K from the USOC for gold medals. Marlen Esparza turned her bronze in London into $250 K with endorsements. Just because athletes are so called "amateurs" dosen't mean they don't make any money.
I mean guys like Canelo, Cotto, Manny Pacquiao, Wilder, Klitschko... They are not gonna go Thru the rigors of Olympic style boxing and Making weight for no $$$ 25k is no $$$ for Top level guys . Lesser pros with 20 or less fights some may do it
You never know what it would mean for a guy to win a gold medal. Why do NBA guys play in the Olympics when they are making big money? What is national pride worth?
Like a Boss wrote:There seems to be an increasing number of pro boxers putting up their hands saying they want to fight at Rio. It will be interesting to see who actually goes and how they fare. I will none of them were going myself.
Pro's that go should be ashamed and ridiculed. The olympics has historically served as an outstanding platform for amatuers to break into the pro's. From Ali to Forenan to Ward to Joshua, etc. Pro's had their chance already. Robbing up and coming ams of opportunities afforded to them before is a damn disgrace.
I agree in principal with your suggestion they should be ridiculed. Trouble is they have been given the green light to do it, and in time they will probably be looked on as pioneers.
