Disrespecting Ali with false facts

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't know about that, Ali had a ton of women.

[Like a Boss]

I don't see it that way ... You have to remember that Young outboxed Foreman... Frazier was crushed like a bug versus Foreman... Liston lost to a Light Heavyweight in the 1950's when his jaw was broken -- so it really depends how good somebody is on the night you fight him ... Holmes, Witherspoon, Page, Thomas, Tucker, Coatzee, and Tyson were 80s Heavyweights who had their great nights and their bad nights.. Ali had his bad nights too.. Mike Tyson had a pretty good night in June of 1988 - against Michael Spinks. Style wise that would be a very tough sled for Ali to deal with -- the peak Tyson who crushed Michael Spinks...the man who defeated Holmes for the Heavyweight Title ... In those days Iron Mike was so fast and powerful he could drive right past the best jab and batter crafty boxers such as Holmes, Spinks, and Truth Williams and get rid of them quickly.

Whilst I agree that a peak Tyson had many tools to give Ali serious problems, especially his speed, I think Ali would have outlasted the initial future and outlasted Mike. Ali was mentally as tough as any fighter I've ever seen.

I saw Ali crack when he faced the wrong guy....

How is that list of fighters you think Ali cracked against coming along? Can't wait to read it.

[Kalan]

Whilst I agree that a peak Tyson had many tools to give Ali serious problems, especially his speed, I think Ali would have outlasted the initial future and outlasted Mike. Ali was mentally as tough as any fighter I've ever seen.

I saw Ali crack when he faced the wrong guy....

How is that list of fighters you think Ali cracked against coming along? Can't wait to read it.

How about Frazier in their first fight, and Norton, Spinks, Holmes, and Berbick... Ali looked absolutely terrible... Mentally out of there.

[Like a Boss]

I saw Ali crack when he faced the wrong guy....

How is that list of fighters you think Ali cracked against coming along? Can't wait to read it.

How about Frazier in their first fight, and Norton, Spinks, Holmes, and Berbick... Ali looked absolutely terrible... Mentally out of there.

How about no, I disagree with you, it wasn't because Ali "cracked"

[jamesmcdonnell]

How is that list of fighters you think Ali cracked against coming along? Can't wait to read it.

How about Frazier in their first fight, and Norton, Spinks, Holmes, and Berbick... Ali looked absolutely terrible... Mentally out of there.

How about no, I disagree with you, it wasn't because Ali "cracked"

The guy's a moron, I don't know why I waste my time even bothering.

[Best Coast]

Not to get in a debate about the Nation of Islam, but they are hardly "nutters". They have some beliefs that have been very helpful to their members. Their record with ex-cons is tremendous. Very low rate of recidivism among ex-cons who join the NOI.
They believe things that most white people can't fathom because we have the bias of believing that everyone wants to be near us, to be like us. That doesn't make them nuts.

Louis Feral-Con is a psychotic racist whose bizarre Nation of Islam doctrine includes a gigantic "Mother Ship" hovering over the Earth, waiting to destroy enemies of the Nation of Islam. Here is this nutcase in HIS OWN WORDS spewing his psychotic nonsense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiVP-E2eFI

[Best Coast]

One thing that gets me is how Cassius clay was a slave name but if people really knew history they would know that Muslims enslaved more Africans than any white Christian nation ever did. They also were a big source of where European nations bought slaves from.

Ali just traded one slave name for another. Arab Muslims were enslaving black Africans 5 CENTURIES before white European slavers even ARRIVED in Africa.

Worse yet, Arab Muslims STILL have black African slaves in the 21st century:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiYnESmz1Mc

[SaadOffTheDeck]

How about Frazier in their first fight, and Norton, Spinks, Holmes, and Berbick... Ali looked absolutely terrible... Mentally out of there.

How about no, I disagree with you, it wasn't because Ali "cracked"

The guy's a moron, I don't know why I waste my time even bothering.

I've had him on ignore for weeks. Yet every post is a response to his verbal diarrhea.