Surviving Opponents of Muhammad Ali

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Surviving Opponents of Muhammad Ali

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Since the passing of "The Greatest" Muhammad Ali on June 3, 2016, there are 21 out of 50 opponents in 61 career fights of Ali, who are still living. Only 1 fighter Jimmy Robinson's status was unknown whether he still lives at 91 or he passed away earlier.

These are the surviving opponents of Ali, who now outlive him by order of the oldest to the youngest.

Brian London (Born: June 19, 1934)
Alonzo Johnson (Born: November 6, 1934)
Alex Miteff (Born: March 25, 1935)
George Logan (Born: August 19, 1936)
Doug Jones (Born: February 27, 1937)
Billy Daniels and George Chuvalo (Born: September 12, 1937)
Karl Mildenberger (Born: November 23, 1937)
Chuck Wepner (Born: February 26, 1939)
Don Warner (Born: August 26, 1939)
Alvin “Blue” Lewis (Born: December 1942)
Juergen Blin (Born: April 7, 1943)
Earnie Shavers (Born: August 31, 1944 (According to his autobiography, "Welcome to the Big Time" or 1945)
Richard Dunn (Born: January 19, 1945)
Rudi Lubbers (Born: August 17, 1945)
Jean-Pierre Coopman (Born: July 11, 1946)
George Foreman (Born: January 10, 1949)
Larry Holmes (Born: November 3, 1949)
Joe Bugner (Born: March 13, 1950)
Leon Spinks (Born: July 13, 1953)
Alfredo Evangelista (Born: December 3, 1954)
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Interesting article on Jimmy Robinson:

http://espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?p ... myRobinson
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- Probably buried in a pauper grave somewhere 20 yrs ago.

Jimmy Robinson, bless him, the worst fighter any heavy champ could have on his record, a career 11-26, 5 ko with 16 ko losses. All his ko wins came vs debut fighters and of his 11 total wins, his opponents totaled only 9 wins, pitiable, but he's a boxer so he beats Wilt, ain't that right boys? Never went passed 6 rds and only weighed about 165 when called out of the crowd. Either he or an official pulled on the scale to give him a more credible 177 lb...snicker

Leon the worst heavy champ, 9 ko losses, but he beats wilt on this forum...snickers
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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:- Probably buried in a pauper grave somewhere 20 yrs ago.

Jimmy Robinson, bless him, the worst fighter any heavy champ could have on his record, a career 11-26, 5 ko with 16 ko losses. All his ko wins came vs debut fighters and of his 11 total wins, his opponents totaled only 9 wins, pitiable, but he's a boxer so he beats Wilt, ain't that right boys? Never went passed 6 rds and only weighed about 165 when called out of the crowd. Either he or an official pulled on the scale to give him a more credible 177 lb...snicker

Leon the worst heavy champ, 9 ko losses, but he beats wilt on this forum...snickers
Are you on the correct thread?

There's an humongous 32 page & counting masturbation thread about Wilt Chamberlain somewhere else on this forum for this sort of thing.
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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:- Probably buried in a pauper grave somewhere 20 yrs ago.

Jimmy Robinson, bless him, the worst fighter any heavy champ could have on his record, a career 11-26, 5 ko with 16 ko losses. All his ko wins came vs debut fighters and of his 11 total wins, his opponents totaled only 9 wins, pitiable, but he's a boxer so he beats Wilt, ain't that right boys? Never went passed 6 rds and only weighed about 165 when called out of the crowd. Either he or an official pulled on the scale to give him a more credible 177 lb...snicker

Leon the worst heavy champ, 9 ko losses, but he beats wilt on this forum...snickers

Well, he beat the man who would have beat Wilt...
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What about boxers who had fought him in the amateurs ?
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That would take some inventorying there.
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Syntax Error wrote:
Are you on the correct thread?

There's an humongous 32 page & counting masturbation thread about Wilt Chamberlain somewhere else on this forum
- Only masturbation thread I know of was off topic, perhaps the greatest circle of jerks ever assembled on this forum.

Mind you, I never opened such a puerile piece, but couldn't help but notice the latest HOFers updating their jerks, well done.

Kent Green born in 1939 seems to still be with us as the the first to ko Ali. They had a trilogy of sorts with green reputedly in a private locked doors gym rematch in the 70s. Later they boxed an exhibition and were reportedly friends.

As to Robinsons wins, his 11 opponents win record were this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,4,4, which using the legendary forum heavyweight rating system of the median gives us a rating of zero, infinitely worse than his opponent average of 0.818%.

Oh, and Kent Green also KOed Jimmy in the first rd with no apparent effort, so give it up for green. One of our enterprising Midwesterners should look him up and give us his memory of that private session with Ali for the final record.
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:wave: DUPE
Syntax Error wrote:
Are you on the correct thread?

There's an humongous 32 page & counting masturbation thread about Wilt Chamberlain somewhere else on this forum
- Only masturbation thread I know of was off topic, perhaps the greatest circle of jerks ever assembled on this forum.

Mind you, I never opened such a puerile piece, but couldn't help but notice the latest HOFers updating their jerks, well done.

Kent Green born in 1939 seems to still be with us as the the first to ko Ali. They had a trilogy of sorts with green reputedly in a private locked doors gym rematch in the 70s. Later they boxed an exhibition and were reportedly friends.

As to Robinsons wins, his 11 opponents win record were this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,4,4, which using the legendary forum heavyweight rating system of the median gives us a rating of zero, infinitely worse than his opponent average of 0.818%.

Oh, and Kent Green also KOed Jimmy in the first rd with no apparent effort, so give it up for green. One of our enterprising Midwesterners should look him up and give us his memory of that private session with Ali for the final record.
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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote::wave: DUPE
Syntax Error wrote:
Are you on the correct thread?

There's an humongous 32 page & counting masturbation thread about Wilt Chamberlain somewhere else on this forum
- Only masturbation thread I know of was off topic, perhaps the greatest circle of jerks ever assembled on this forum.

Mind you, I never opened such a puerile piece, but couldn't help but notice the latest HOFers updating their jerks, well done.

Kent Green born in 1939 seems to still be with us as the the first to ko Ali. They had a trilogy of sorts with green reputedly in a private locked doors gym rematch in the 70s. Later they boxed an exhibition and were reportedly friends.

As to Robinsons wins, his 11 opponents win record were this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,4,4, which using the legendary forum heavyweight rating system of the median gives us a rating of zero, infinitely worse than his opponent average of 0.818%.

Oh, and Kent Green also KOed Jimmy in the first rd with no apparent effort, so give it up for green. One of our enterprising Midwesterners should look him up and give us his memory of that private session with Ali for the final record.

I didn't know people still used PCP
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Who's the oldest living former heavyweight champ now Ali has passed is it Foreman now?
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Yes, it's George Foreman, closely followed by Larry Holmes - both born in 1949.
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:Interesting article on Jimmy Robinson:

http://espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?p ... myRobinson

Thank you. VERY Interesting stuff....
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Tony1244 wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:Interesting article on Jimmy Robinson:

http://espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?p ... myRobinson

Thank you. VERY Interesting stuff....

:TU:
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scorpio83 wrote:Since the passing of "The Greatest" Muhammad Ali on June 3, 2016, there are 21 out of 50 opponents in 61 career fights of Ali, who are still living. Only 1 fighter Jimmy Robinson's status was unknown whether he still lives at 91 or he passed away earlier.

These are the surviving opponents of Ali, who now outlive him by order of the oldest to the youngest.

Brian London (Born: June 19, 1934)
Alonzo Johnson (Born: November 6, 1934)
Alex Miteff (Born: March 25, 1935)
George Logan (Born: August 19, 1936)
Doug Jones (Born: February 27, 1937)
Billy Daniels and George Chuvalo (Born: September 12, 1937)
Karl Mildenberger (Born: November 23, 1937)
Chuck Wepner (Born: February 26, 1939)
Don Warner (Born: August 26, 1939)
Alvin “Blue” Lewis (Born: December 1942)
Juergen Blin (Born: April 7, 1943)
Earnie Shavers (Born: August 31, 1944 (According to his autobiography, "Welcome to the Big Time" or 1945)
Richard Dunn (Born: January 19, 1945)
Rudi Lubbers (Born: August 17, 1945)
Jean-Pierre Coopman (Born: July 11, 1946)
George Foreman (Born: January 10, 1949)
Larry Holmes (Born: November 3, 1949)
Joe Bugner (Born: March 13, 1950)
Leon Spinks (Born: July 13, 1953)
Alfredo Evangelista (Born: December 3, 1954)
Nice list. Nothing beats a good boxing list :TU:
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Like a Boss wrote:
scorpio83 wrote:Since the passing of "The Greatest" Muhammad Ali on June 3, 2016, there are 21 out of 50 opponents in 61 career fights of Ali, who are still living. Only 1 fighter Jimmy Robinson's status was unknown whether he still lives at 91 or he passed away earlier.

These are the surviving opponents of Ali, who now outlive him by order of the oldest to the youngest.

Brian London (Born: June 19, 1934)
Alonzo Johnson (Born: November 6, 1934)
Alex Miteff (Born: March 25, 1935)
George Logan (Born: August 19, 1936)
Doug Jones (Born: February 27, 1937)
Billy Daniels and George Chuvalo (Born: September 12, 1937)
Karl Mildenberger (Born: November 23, 1937)
Chuck Wepner (Born: February 26, 1939)
Don Warner (Born: August 26, 1939)
Alvin “Blue” Lewis (Born: December 1942)
Juergen Blin (Born: April 7, 1943)
Earnie Shavers (Born: August 31, 1944 (According to his autobiography, "Welcome to the Big Time" or 1945)
Richard Dunn (Born: January 19, 1945)
Rudi Lubbers (Born: August 17, 1945)
Jean-Pierre Coopman (Born: July 11, 1946)
George Foreman (Born: January 10, 1949)
Larry Holmes (Born: November 3, 1949)
Joe Bugner (Born: March 13, 1950)
Leon Spinks (Born: July 13, 1953)
Alfredo Evangelista (Born: December 3, 1954)
Nice list. Nothing beats a good boxing list :TU:
Thanks my man and I appreciate it. :TU:
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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
Are you on the correct thread?

There's an humongous 32 page & counting masturbation thread about Wilt Chamberlain somewhere else on this forum
- Only masturbation thread I know of was off topic, perhaps the greatest circle of jerks ever assembled on this forum.

Mind you, I never opened such a puerile piece, but couldn't help but notice the latest HOFers updating their jerks, well done.

Kent Green born in 1939 seems to still be with us as the the first to ko Ali. They had a trilogy of sorts with green reputedly in a private locked doors gym rematch in the 70s. Later they boxed an exhibition and were reportedly friends.

As to Robinsons wins, his 11 opponents win record were this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,4,4, which using the legendary forum heavyweight rating system of the median gives us a rating of zero, infinitely worse than his opponent average of 0.818%.

Oh, and Kent Green also KOed Jimmy in the first rd with no apparent effort, so give it up for green. One of our enterprising Midwesterners should look him up and give us his memory of that private session with Ali for the final record.
In his autobiography Ali had an excuse for getting knocked out by Kent Green... Ali claimed he had too much sex the night before... Sex with a women is actually good for your health. It can't hurt you physically because it's a natural function... But to the extent it takes your mind off the fight... robs you of sleep... bothers your conscience because of cheating on your wife or girl friend... or to the extent you believe the myth that a boxer must abstain for weeks before a fight... all that is going to kill you psychologically if you're not an emotionally mature person.

Ali was prone to believe ridiculous myths such as sexual abstinence is good for your health and athletic performance. We know Wilt Chamberlain didn't believe such nonsense. And bedding women didn't stop Chamberlain from athletically and statistically dominating the entire NBA for many seasons.
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Kalan wrote:
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
Are you on the correct thread?

There's an humongous 32 page & counting masturbation thread about Wilt Chamberlain somewhere else on this forum
- Only masturbation thread I know of was off topic, perhaps the greatest circle of jerks ever assembled on this forum.

Mind you, I never opened such a puerile piece, but couldn't help but notice the latest HOFers updating their jerks, well done.

Kent Green born in 1939 seems to still be with us as the the first to ko Ali. They had a trilogy of sorts with green reputedly in a private locked doors gym rematch in the 70s. Later they boxed an exhibition and were reportedly friends.

As to Robinsons wins, his 11 opponents win record were this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,4,4, which using the legendary forum heavyweight rating system of the median gives us a rating of zero, infinitely worse than his opponent average of 0.818%.

Oh, and Kent Green also KOed Jimmy in the first rd with no apparent effort, so give it up for green. One of our enterprising Midwesterners should look him up and give us his memory of that private session with Ali for the final record.
In his autobiography Ali had an excuse for getting knocked out by Kent Green... Ali claimed he had too much sex the night before... Sex with a women is actually good for your health. It can't hurt you physically because it's a natural function... But to the extent it takes your mind off the fight... robs you of sleep... bothers your conscience because of cheating on your wife or girl friend... or to the extent you believe the myth that a boxer must abstain for weeks before a fight... all that is going to kill you psychologically if you're not an emotionally mature person.

Ali was prone to believe ridiculous myths such as sexual abstinence is good for your health and athletic performance. We know Wilt Chamberlain didn't believe such nonsense. And bedding women didn't stop Chamberlain from athletically and statistically dominating the entire NBA for many seasons.
This man gets more incredible every day. :bow:

Is there anything that Wilt Chamberlain couldn't do?
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Syntax Error wrote:
Kalan wrote:
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
- Only masturbation thread I know of was off topic, perhaps the greatest circle of jerks ever assembled on this forum.

Mind you, I never opened such a puerile piece, but couldn't help but notice the latest HOFers updating their jerks, well done.

Kent Green born in 1939 seems to still be with us as the the first to ko Ali. They had a trilogy of sorts with green reputedly in a private locked doors gym rematch in the 70s. Later they boxed an exhibition and were reportedly friends.

As to Robinsons wins, his 11 opponents win record were this: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,4,4, which using the legendary forum heavyweight rating system of the median gives us a rating of zero, infinitely worse than his opponent average of 0.818%.

Oh, and Kent Green also KOed Jimmy in the first rd with no apparent effort, so give it up for green. One of our enterprising Midwesterners should look him up and give us his memory of that private session with Ali for the final record.
In his autobiography Ali had an excuse for getting knocked out by Kent Green... Ali claimed he had too much sex the night before... Sex with a women is actually good for your health. It can't hurt you physically because it's a natural function... But to the extent it takes your mind off the fight... robs you of sleep... bothers your conscience because of cheating on your wife or girl friend... or to the extent you believe the myth that a boxer must abstain for weeks before a fight... all that is going to kill you psychologically if you're not an emotionally mature person.

Ali was prone to believe ridiculous myths such as sexual abstinence is good for your health and athletic performance. We know Wilt Chamberlain didn't believe such nonsense. And bedding women didn't stop Chamberlain from athletically and statistically dominating the entire NBA for many seasons.
This man gets more incredible every day. :bow:

Is there anything that Wilt Chamberlain couldn't do?
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Yeah, he couldn't hit free throws.

And it's also unlikely he could have hit Ali, even with all those weeks of training he would have had under the eye of that demented genius Cus D'Amato.
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This Just in:

Wilt never got his bicycle stolen.
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BoxBuzz wrote:This Just in:

Wilt never got his bicycle stolen.

Wilt was known to bound clean over tall fences just to steal bicycles. He was a mean dude.
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SenorPipino wrote:Is there anything that Wilt Chamberlain couldn't do?[/b]
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Yeah, he couldn't hit free throws.

And it's also unlikely he could have hit Ali, even with all those weeks of training he would have had under the eye of that demented genius Cus D'Amato.
Chamberlain has the NBA record for hitting free throws in a game... He his 28 of them the night he scored 100 points.

Ali was easy to hit... Sonny Banks.. Henry Cooper.. and Joe Frazier all floored Ali with big left hooks.. Ken Norton shattered Ali's jaw with a blooping shot.. lots of people whaled on Ali as he lay on the ropes.. Football player Lyle Alzado ripped Ali with a slew of punches in the face.. Ali was no Willie Pep defensively.. It's scary to think what a super athlete of 7'1" X 290 with a 101" reach would have done to Ali... And it wasn't weeks of training genius... It was 6 months.
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Kalan wrote:
SenorPipino wrote:Is there anything that Wilt Chamberlain couldn't do?[/b]
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Yeah, he couldn't hit free throws.

And it's also unlikely he could have hit Ali, even with all those weeks of training he would have had under the eye of that demented genius Cus D'Amato.
Chamberlain has the NBA record for hitting free throws in a game... He his 28 of them the night he scored 100 points.

Ali was easy to hit... Sonny Banks.. Henry Cooper.. and Joe Frazier all floored Ali with big left hooks.. Ken Norton shattered Ali's jaw with a blooping shot.. lots of people whaled on Ali as he lay on the ropes.. Football player Lyle Alzado ripped Ali with a slew of punches in the face.. Ali was no Willie Pep defensively.. It's scary to think what a super athlete of 7'1" X 290 with a 101" reach would have done to Ali... And it wasn't weeks of training genius... It was 6 months.
The only "scary" thing would have been the"scary" amount of money Ali would have made, had Wilt actually gone through with it. Oh and maybe the "scary" fall that someone that tall would have when he either got KO'd or ran out of gas.

It just occurred to me that I almost forgot to tell you that Ali would end up winning any boxing match with Wilt. Oh, and Armstrong would beat Valero. This may surprise you, and of course this goes against every likely outcome that one can imagine in these cases, But that's just how shocking the outcomes would be. As we all know and have witnessed, in boxing anything can happen, And Ali and Armstrong despite being underdogs, would end up victorious in these hypotheticals. Now don't ask me how I know......I just know.
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BoxBuzz.... Boxing is as incomprehensible to you as nuclear physics... How do I know this??? ... From your ridiculously disjointed and whimsical bombast.
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Kalan wrote:BoxBuzz.... Boxing is as incomprehensible to you as nuclear physics... How do I know this??? ... From your ridiculously disjointed and whimsical bombast.
To be fair he probably hasn't trained 100's of world class fighters like you or been ringside at every big fight of the last 120 years like you have.
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