Anthony Joshua vs Dominic Breazeale

[foxdog1923]

26th of June I think!...not sure but around then.

I personally think Joshua will have the better speed and athleticism.

Joshua to win by TKO in the 6th. Ill chuck in the left hook/cross combo to wobble Dominic. Given Dominic 6 rounds cos I think hes determined not to get knocked out so I expect him to fight conservatively.

Thoughts team..

[Bard of Boxrec]

Joshua KO1 or 2.

[BitPlayer]

I thought the easy first defence was only for coming off a hard win.

[Reece_D]

Joshua KO1 or 2.

This. another knock over job for Joshua, don't get caught up in the hype people.

[littlepug]

I thought the easy first defence was only for coming off a hard win.

or for those that have won a title but still lack experience

[pound per pound]

Breazeale isn't skilled or durable. Joshua has fought better and should finish him quickly. I'm okay with a new champion taking a fight like this, but I sincerely hope Joshua doesn't keep picking Wilder like opponents.

[jamesmcdonnell]

2nd round.

[BitPlayer]

I thought the easy first defence was only for coming off a hard win.

or for those that have won a title but still lack experience

This fight will not give him experience. I wouldn't be surprised if it was over round 1.

[littlepug]

I thought the easy first defence was only for coming off a hard win.

or for those that have won a title but still lack experience

This fight will not give him experience. I wouldn't be surprised if it was over round 1.

true but thats the modern game for ya

[Kalan]

Personally I don't see Breazeale hanging around for 6 rounds... He'll have to have a pretty tough bean to weather the storm that long.. He took some hellacious shots from Amir Mansour and prevailed somehow.. He could be really good if he had a half decent boxing coach. He's a great big, tall, fast, long limbed, and really tough athlete.. His skills are on the Gary Cornish level and he's not getting better.. That also calls into question the quality of his sparring.. If you have really good sparring partners they give you great tips.. you get better as you go along.

He's got a bunch of guys who aren't any good, but he's got Gerald Washington. He's not bad. He's a big, tall, powerful guy and a real good athlete. He's a guy who could actually beat Breazeale in a fight. Breazeale is going around saying "I'm sparring with guys who are 10 times better than Anthony Joshua" and you know he's talking about Washington. Nobody else in his camp could possibly be mistaken for a guy who's 10 X as good as AJ. Washington easily beat little Eddie Chambers just by maintaining his balance, thinking fairly well, and throwing amateurish punches. Neither Brezeale or Washington can throw a jab and AJ has a great jab. When Lennox Lewis fought a guy as short as Mike Tyson he jabbed the crap out of him. That's what a real jab looks like. Breazeale never got a jab on the super short Mansour. He's supposed to jab the Hell out of a guy that size.

I was impressed with Breazeale's toughness. He absorbed very hard shots from Mansour and fought back like a demon. If you have zero skills and you're a great big, tall, fast, hard punching, super tough athlete, you can beat a little guy like Mansour by absorbing everything he throws and beating the crap out him. So that's what he did. Up until now Breazeale has been fighting guys who he can overpower, beat up, and punch out just by taking everything they throw and hitting them back harder. I'm sure Breazeale will switch trainers after this fight. Right now he's got no idea what he's up against.

[BitPlayer]

^Some interesting points about Breazeale, but it's a little misleading to say he beat Mansour, when he puled out due to freak accident where he bit through his own tongue.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Joshua in 3 or 4 entertaining rounds. Breazeale doesn't have a great chin or skills, but he has a ton of heart and belief.

[Kalan]

^Some interesting points about Breazeale, but it's a little misleading to say he beat Mansour, when he puled out due to freak accident where he bit through his own tongue.

That's true... That win makes Breazeale look a little better than he is... However Mansour never would have bitten through his tongue if Breazeale didn't come off the canvas... absorb some terrific shots... fire back like a demon... show a massive resolve and will to win... and hit Mansour in the head with some tremendous punchers... He put himself into position to get a tremendous payday.

Charles Martin was smart enough to avoid getting knocked cold... My thinking is Breazeale won't be that smart and it could be a rough one for him, like Whyte.

[asdfjkl]

Joshua KO1 or 2.

This. another knock over job for Joshua, don't get caught up in the hype people.

This, if Mansour can do it in 3, then Joshua can probably do it in any round he wants to.
I know somehow that, since his Dillian Whyte fight, he doesn't fight serious any more in the first round, just winning the round, that's all he does in the first round.

[Tarkus]

Joshua in 3 or 4 entertaining rounds. Breazeale doesn't have a great chin or skills, but he has a ton of heart and belief.

How do you know that? Before the fight everyone is brave. Martin was comparing himself to God and then refused to get off of the floor.

Everyone has heart till they get punched in the mouth, something Iron Mike has never said.

[foxdog1923]

Joshua KO1 or 2.

This. another knock over job for Joshua, don't get caught up in the hype people.

This, if Mansour can do it in 3, then Joshua can probably do it in any round he wants to.
I know somehow that, since his Dillian Whyte fight, he doesn't fight serious any more in the first round, just winning the round, that's all he does in the first round.

Oh I thought you believed in he who kos so and so in faster time is better. So you changed now? Lol

[foxdog1923]

Breazeale isn't skilled or durable. Joshua has fought better and should finish him quickly. I'm okay with a new champion taking a fight like this, but I sincerely hope Joshua doesn't keep picking Wilder like opponents.

Joshuas trying to grow popularity in the American market by fighting arguably one of their best up and comers in Breazeale.

Like you said, I think its an okish choice of opponent but the only other undefeated big name in the states is Wilder so I guess hes taken the next best the states have to offer.

If Breazeale can get past the danger rounds (which I have a strong doubt but Im willing to back that he can) then he should get pummelled in the mid rounds. Based on some of Breazeales interviews, it sounds like his goal is not to get knocked out.

[asdfjkl]

This. another knock over job for Joshua, don't get caught up in the hype people.

This, if Mansour can do it in 3, then Joshua can probably do it in any round he wants to.
I know somehow that, since his Dillian Whyte fight, he doesn't fight serious any more in the first round, just winning the round, that's all he does in the first round.

Oh I thought you believed in he who kos so and so in faster time is better. So you changed now? Lol

I guess you mean that you still can't believe that I think Whyte iis better then Parker. Whyte KOing every same opponent in less time is part of the evidence for that indeed. But don't worry about it, there are more things you don't seem to realise.

[foxdog1923]

This, if Mansour can do it in 3, then Joshua can probably do it in any round he wants to.
I know somehow that, since his Dillian Whyte fight, he doesn't fight serious any more in the first round, just winning the round, that's all he does in the first round.

Oh I thought you believed in he who kos so and so in faster time is better. So you changed now? Lol

I guess you mean that you still can't believe that I think Whyte iis better then Parker. Whyte KOing every same opponent in less time is part of the evidence for that indeed. But don't worry about it, there are more things you don't seem to realise.

Listen, you said Whyte is better than Parker because he KOS Parkers past opponents in faster time. That is your belief and Im not arguing that.

Now with Joshua you are saying that he can do it any round he wants too?? What if he KOs Breazeale in after 4 rounds, does that mean Mansour is better than Joshua? Because Mansour wouldve KOd him in faster time wouldnt it? Im just saying what YOU believe in.

[Kalan]

What is this garbage about Mansour KOing Breazeale or woulda - coulda - shoulda KO'd Breazeale????

What happened in that fight is Breazeale pulled his ass up off the canvas and started fighting back as hard as he could... He caught Mansour with a number of big shots that didn't help Mansour out a great deal... At that point you have 2 guys who a capable of flattening each other with a shot swinging for the fences, but Mansour being more circumspect... The man is 43 years old. He can't blow his wad in one titanic effort to get Breazeale out of there... Then he'd be cooked and he'd be a sitting duck... Breazeale didn't care. He was going as hard as he could for as long as he could -- like Whyte... That's not the way you should do it, but if you can't box there's no other way to win -- so the odds started favoring Breazeale a little bit because he was the bigger, stronger, and younger man.

[foxdog1923]

What is this garbage about Mansour KOing Breazeale or woulda - coulda - shoulda KO'd Breazeale????

What happened in that fight is Breazeale pulled his ass up off the canvas and started fighting back as hard as he could... He caught Mansour with a number of big shots that didn't help Mansour out a great deal... At that point you have 2 guys who a capable of flattening each other with a shot swinging for the fences, but Mansour being more circumspect... The man is 43 years old. He can't blow his wad in one titanic effort to get Breazeale out of there... Then he'd be cooked and he'd be a sitting duck... Breazeale didn't care. He was going as hard as he could for as long as he could -- like Whyte... That's not the way you should do it, but if you can't box there's no other way to win -- so the odds started favoring Breazeale a little bit because he was the bigger, stronger, and younger man.

Not you again. I'm surprised you DARE to step to me after I made you look dumb before (e.g. proving endomorphs do compete in competitive sports and that boxing is the most difficult sport). I taught you that

No actually I'll explain what you've jumped the gun and missed...

Ok we're not really discussing Mansour vs Breazeale. I'm using that fight as an example.

You see asdfjkl has this idea or belief that he who KOS so and so faster than the other is the better boxer. I hope you get that as it can be confusing. Anyway NOW asdfjkl doesn't seem to believe in that anymore as I think now he's clicked that it's not the case.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Joshua in 3 or 4 entertaining rounds. Breazeale doesn't have a great chin or skills, but he has a ton of heart and belief.

How do you know that? Before the fight everyone is brave. Martin was comparing himself to God and then refused to get off of the floor.

Everyone has heart till they get punched in the mouth, something Iron Mike has never said.

I've actually watched him fight. Give it a try, it's very helpful in forming opinions.

[asdfjkl]

Oh I thought you believed in he who kos so and so in faster time is better. So you changed now? Lol

I guess you mean that you still can't believe that I think Whyte iis better then Parker. Whyte KOing every same opponent in less time is part of the evidence for that indeed. But don't worry about it, there are more things you don't seem to realise.

Listen, you said Whyte is better than Parker because he KOS Parkers past opponents in faster time. That is your belief and Im not arguing that.

Now with Joshua you are saying that he can do it any round he wants too?? What if he KOs Breazeale in after 4 rounds, does that mean Mansour is better than Joshua? Because Mansour wouldve KOd him in faster time wouldnt it? Im just saying what YOU believe in.

Mansour did the best a 43 year old 6ft1 220 pounder who's heavely injured could do at the moment he fought Breazeale, somehow the ref didn't flag it of when Breazeale dropped and because of the injury it's enough to keep his 0.
Mansour still was obviously better as Breazeale.
Joshua isn't 43, isn't 6ft1 and isn't 220 pound, Joshua is a lot bigger, similar muscled and skilled, a lot more heavy, and a lot younger and next to all that, NOT INJURED. So yes, Joshua can make Breazeale look like an complete idiot, even a heavely injured elderly did.

Breazeale is like a Hyundai, Mansour like a broken Volkswagen and Joshua like a brand new Mercedes in this case.

[foxdog1923]

I guess you mean that you still can't believe that I think Whyte iis better then Parker. Whyte KOing every same opponent in less time is part of the evidence for that indeed. But don't worry about it, there are more things you don't seem to realise.

Listen, you said Whyte is better than Parker because he KOS Parkers past opponents in faster time. That is your belief and Im not arguing that.

Now with Joshua you are saying that he can do it any round he wants too?? What if he KOs Breazeale in after 4 rounds, does that mean Mansour is better than Joshua? Because Mansour wouldve KOd him in faster time wouldnt it? Im just saying what YOU believe in.

Mansour did the best a 43 year old 6ft1 220 pounder who's heavely injured could do at the moment he fought Breazeale, somehow the ref didn't flag it of and because of the injury it's enough to keep his 0.
Mansour still was obviously better as Breazeale.
Joshua isn't 43, isn't 6ft1 and isn't 220 pound, Joshua is a lot bigger, similar muscled, a lot more heavy, and a lot younger and next to all that, NOT INJURED. So yes, Joshua can make Breazeale look like an complete idiot, even a heavely injured elderly did.

Breazeale is like a Hyundai, Mansour like a broken Volkswagen and Joshua like a brand new Mercedes.

You're not answering the question. You're just like Kalan when you know the answer is not what you like.

Ok let's not mention Mansour and Breazeale cause you will talk about that fight entirely to avoid the answers to my question. We're PRETENDING HERE. Let's say Dillian Whyte KOS Charles Martin in round one, will you say Whyte is better than Joshua because he KOd him in faster time? That's what you did with Parker and you BELIEVED that and stood by it, will you stand by your belief now that it works against Joshua?

2 questions, please answer.

[asdfjkl]

Listen, you said Whyte is better than Parker because he KOS Parkers past opponents in faster time. That is your belief and Im not arguing that.

Now with Joshua you are saying that he can do it any round he wants too?? What if he KOs Breazeale in after 4 rounds, does that mean Mansour is better than Joshua? Because Mansour wouldve KOd him in faster time wouldnt it? Im just saying what YOU believe in.

Mansour did the best a 43 year old 6ft1 220 pounder who's heavely injured could do at the moment he fought Breazeale, somehow the ref didn't flag it of and because of the injury it's enough to keep his 0.
Mansour still was obviously better as Breazeale.
Joshua isn't 43, isn't 6ft1 and isn't 220 pound, Joshua is a lot bigger, similar muscled, a lot more heavy, and a lot younger and next to all that, NOT INJURED. So yes, Joshua can make Breazeale look like an complete idiot, even a heavely injured elderly did.

Breazeale is like a Hyundai, Mansour like a broken Volkswagen and Joshua like a brand new Mercedes.

You're not answering the question. You're just like Kalan when you know the answer is not what you like.

Ok let's not mention Mansour and Breazeale cause you will talk about that fight entirely to avoid the answers to my question. We're PRETENDING HERE. Let's say Dillian Whyte KOS Charles Martin in round one, will you say Whyte is better than Joshua because he KOd him in faster time? That's what you did with Parker and you BELIEVED that and stood by it, will you stand by your belief now that it works against Joshua?

2 questions, please answer.

That matters what the fight looks like, if Parker KO's Glazkov in 4 doesn't mean he's worse as Martin since we have all seen Glazkov simply had an injury against Martin.