Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
What is Korobov's team doing with this guy? How old is he now? He's fought once in 2 yrs since getting KO'd by Lee after winning every round in the fight. Now he's fighting Vera's corpse. This dude will be ready to retire by the time they put him back in there again with an actual opponent.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
I don't know why he took so much time off after the Lee fight either. It wasn't an embarrassing loss or anything. Hell he was winning prior to getting caught.
He'll beat Vera up easy, but it won't mean much
He'll beat Vera up easy, but it won't mean much
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
This is what his career has been like for the most part....pretty disappointing.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
He's 33. Top rank are ruining his career. It's the sane with that Egor (can't remember his surname but he's an unbeaten russian light heavyweight prospect) ....same with the unbeaten Japanese Olympic gold medallist Murata. They're all older prospects and he's matching them as slowly as he possibly could.diddy wrote:What is Korobov's team doing with this guy? How old is he now? He's fought once in 2 yrs since getting KO'd by Lee after winning every round in the fight. Now he's fighting Vera's corpse. This dude will be ready to retire by the time they put him back in there again with an actual opponent.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Westerners are tying Eastern Europeans to contracts and then putting them on the shelf... It's a tactic to keep titles out of their hands... It's only going to work so long... There are a few guys Al Haymon signed, then they disappear.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
The guy isn't used to losing. He dominated the MW division in amateurs and then he was stopped by a pretty mediocre guy who he would destroy in amateurs. Of course, another boxer would try to change things, start over, get into the ring soon and earn another title shot, so Korobov got some issues.gilgamesh wrote:I don't know why he took so much time off after the Lee fight either. It wasn't an embarrassing loss or anything. Hell he was winning prior to getting caught.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Is that why the biggest names that HBO is pushing are Lomachenko, Kovalev and Golovkin? Nobody is putting these guys on the shelf.Kalan wrote:Westerners are tying Eastern Europeans to contracts and then putting them on the shelf... It's a tactic to keep titles out of their hands... It's only going to work so long... There are a few guys Al Haymon signed, then they disappear.
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Korobov is one of the best amateurs I've ever seen.
To adapt to the PRO game he needs a step up sharpish after this fight.
To adapt to the PRO game he needs a step up sharpish after this fight.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Korobov has changed a lot of trainers. I think he needs to train with Hunter who would make him more defensive to avoid what happened in the Lee fight.PredatorHayds wrote:Korobov is one of the best amateurs I've ever seen.
To adapt to the PRO game he needs a step up sharpish after this fight.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
I ref'd and judged some of his amateur fights at worlds and Olympics. I thought this guy was going to dominate in the pros because of his style and power but it hasn't turned out. Maybe he burned out in the ams.PredatorHayds wrote:Korobov is one of the best amateurs I've ever seen.
To adapt to the PRO game he needs a step up sharpish after this fight.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Korobov has always struck me as a talented, cerebral fighter. Really surprised he's fizzled out as a pro but I blame his matchmakers.
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Ya, I was always very impressed with him in the amateurs and had high expectations for his pro career. This wasn't a Zou Shiming case where the guy was obviously a light hitter with a style that didn't suit the pros; Korobov was a top-tier boxer puncher who looked to have nearly all the tools.JMac wrote:I ref'd and judged some of his amateur fights at worlds and Olympics. I thought this guy was going to dominate in the pros because of his style and power but it hasn't turned out. Maybe he burned out in the ams.PredatorHayds wrote:Korobov is one of the best amateurs I've ever seen.
To adapt to the PRO game he needs a step up sharpish after this fight.
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
When you have a long amateur career and a successful one like Korobov (except Olympics) it's not hard to just get to a point where you had enough. He dealt with issues of his parents leaving Russia for USA while he stayed back to box for Russia.....maybe he lost the hunger...maybe he didn't need the money that comes from being a world champ...who really knows except him and his people.crusader wrote:Ya, I was always very impressed with him in the amateurs and had high expectations for his pro career. This wasn't a Zou Shiming case where the guy was obviously a light hitter with a style that obviously didn't suit the pros; Korobov was a top-tier boxer puncher who looked to have nearly all the tools.JMac wrote:I ref'd and judged some of his amateur fights at worlds and Olympics. I thought this guy was going to dominate in the pros because of his style and power but it hasn't turned out. Maybe he burned out in the ams.PredatorHayds wrote:Korobov is one of the best amateurs I've ever seen.
To adapt to the PRO game he needs a step up sharpish after this fight.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Why get in the ring and get hit in a face if you lost the hunger and don't need money??? I bet he needs money, but doesn't want to fight anymore kinda like Ward.JMac wrote:When you have a long amateur career and a successful one like Korobov (except Olympics) it's not hard to just get to a point where you had enough. He dealt with issues of his parents leaving Russia for USA while he stayed back to box for Russia.....maybe he lost the hunger...maybe he didn't need the money that comes from being a world champ...who really knows except him and his people.crusader wrote:Ya, I was always very impressed with him in the amateurs and had high expectations for his pro career. This wasn't a Zou Shiming case where the guy was obviously a light hitter with a style that obviously didn't suit the pros; Korobov was a top-tier boxer puncher who looked to have nearly all the tools.JMac wrote: I ref'd and judged some of his amateur fights at worlds and Olympics. I thought this guy was going to dominate in the pros because of his style and power but it hasn't turned out. Maybe he burned out in the ams.
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Freedom2013
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Top Rank has done a poor job with Korobov, ruining him with meaningless opposition and low pay for years.
Postol has been inactive for nearly a year. Like Korobov, Mekhontsev has been ruined, fighting meaningless opposition for poor pay on undercards. Gvozdyk is very talented, but won't be given opportunities by Top Rank. He's not been on TV yet, even though he has a fan-friendly style.
Lomachenko was inactive for a log time, and has fought mostly meaningless opposition since Russell - he says he wants to fight more often, but Arum won't do it.
Kovalev is with Main Events and GGG is with K-2. Both of these promoters do a much better job with the boxers from East Europe. Golden Boy has had Shabranskyy on TV several times, and DiBella is doing an excellent job with Deveranchenko and Khytrov.
Postol has been inactive for nearly a year. Like Korobov, Mekhontsev has been ruined, fighting meaningless opposition for poor pay on undercards. Gvozdyk is very talented, but won't be given opportunities by Top Rank. He's not been on TV yet, even though he has a fan-friendly style.
Lomachenko was inactive for a log time, and has fought mostly meaningless opposition since Russell - he says he wants to fight more often, but Arum won't do it.
Kovalev is with Main Events and GGG is with K-2. Both of these promoters do a much better job with the boxers from East Europe. Golden Boy has had Shabranskyy on TV several times, and DiBella is doing an excellent job with Deveranchenko and Khytrov.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Devery and Kyhtrov aren't very impressive so they need coddling. Especially Kyhtrov. He stinks. Just like that other Russian who was recently badly exposed who's name escapes me.
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Arif Magomedov?diddy wrote:Devery and Kyhtrov aren't very impressive so they need coddling. Especially Kyhtrov. He stinks. Just like that other Russian who was recently badly exposed who's name escapes me.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Yeah that stiff. Trashed by a club fighter.gilgamesh wrote:Arif Magomedov?diddy wrote:Devery and Kyhtrov aren't very impressive so they need coddling. Especially Kyhtrov. He stinks. Just like that other Russian who was recently badly exposed who's name escapes me.
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hulkmaniac
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
This guy isn't that great. If I didn't know about his amateur career, I would think he's a Friday night fighter. If Brian Vera is the Brian Vera in his first Chavez fight, he beats Korobov. Luckily for Korobov, that is not the case.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Any version of Vera wouldn't be able to land much on Korobov who learned his lesson.hulkmaniac wrote:This guy isn't that great. If I didn't know about his amateur career, I would think he's a Friday night fighter. If Brian Vera is the Brian Vera in his first Chavez fight, he beats Korobov. Luckily for Korobov, that is not the case.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Korobov won but didn't look great. Looked great early then gassed badly in an 8 round fight. Something is missing with this dude. Vera won rounds 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 but got knocked down 4 times in 3 other rounds.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Sounds like the typical Korobov performancediddy wrote:Korobov won but didn't look great. Looked great early then gassed badly in an 8 round fight. Something is missing with this dude.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Judges had this WAY WAY too wide.
Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Someone PLEASE get Alvarado to retire.
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hulkmaniac
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Re: Matt Korobov vs Brian Vera
Korobov just earned himself a shot at Canelo.