Errol Spence Jr Isn't Ready For Thurman OR Porter

[bnovelist]

Yes Spence Jr is the best prospect but both Thurman and Porter showed last night that they are HIGH LEVEL boxers. Very polished, granite chins,

great conditioning, recuperative powers, etc... Errol would find himself on the defensive with either one of these guys. I imagined that all we would

see if BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM but they have showed GREAT CRAFT both are extremely crafty! I dont feel the same anymore saying that Errol

is the boogy man of the division.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

What I would say is that real top guys at 147 are being severely underrated.

Spence will wipe them all out ...
Crawford will wipe them all out ...

All bullshit.

Bradley, Thurman, Brook, Porter, & GARCIA are bad men.
They just happened to exist during a rare two ATG era.

With that level of fighter fresh in our memory, it's easy to underrate regular greatness.

[SenorPipino]

I don't know that the 2016 version of Spence would wipe out both Porter and Thurman.

The experience factor might give those two fighters a slight edge over Spence at this time. But maybe he beats them. But it would be close.

Give Spence another year or so, however, and he clearly becomes the class of the welterweight division.

[Impractical Poster]

You got to make up your mind bro. Just a month ago you were touting Spence as being the best WW in the division.

[bnovelist]

Yeah but I didn't expect to see Thurman & Porter show as much cagey craftmanship thats the thing. Porter was mixing it up boxing, coming forward,

moving backwards to set traps, etc... Thurman can come forward being aggressive or fight off the ropes withblazing handspeed both of these guys

raised their games. All I am saying is that things have changed it could very well be Spence on the defensive getting his head and body banged up!

[davie]

The least trollish opening post you've ever written B!

I'm inclined to agree with you, I'm very wary of the hype surrounding many top prospects these days. Many of them look "world class" against a long list of B and C class fighters.

I do think Spence and Crawford do have the tools to be among the best and we may be sitting here, 2 years from now, in no doubt that they are the number 1 and 2 welterweight on the planet.

Right now? Spence may have the power and the skill, but it would be a lot closer than many think and I think craft and top level experience may play a significant role if you were to put Spence in with either just now.
Brook, Garcia, Khan and Bradley would pose him significant problems too and there is a decent chance he loses to at least one of them.

[jewboypgh]

Spence ain't ready for Thurman,postal, Crawford, Vasquez or prodovikov. He'd pound porter. He come in too wide

[Chepppaaa]

he got power himself, to trouble anybody at ww.

spence beats them, he would have a harder time with thurman, cause thurman is tricky, he can ko you with 1 punch, but he can make you miss and box controlled and move.

[SenorPipino]

You got to make up your mind bro. Just a month ago you were touting Spence as being the best WW in the division.

I really don't remember saying that (and I'm too lazy to look it up) but if I did opine that, then I was referring more to potential.

Spence will definitely be the class of the ww division in a year or so.

But right now, his lack of big name experience would be a drawback. We haven't seen him in tough against a true, quality opponent.

But then again, it wouldn't surprise me if he was able to beat them all right now.

Today, matchups with the division stars would be close bouts for Spence. Down the road, he will dominate.

But Jewboy, are you really arguing that Spence couldn't handle Provodnikov today. The same Provodnikov who recently was bested by past his prime, one-dimensional John Molina???

Spence would decimate Provodnikov at will....TODAY.

[Impractical Poster]

You got to make up your mind bro. Just a month ago you were touting Spence as being the best WW in the division.

I really don't remember saying that (and I'm too lazy to look it up) but if I did opine that, then I was referring more to potential.

Spence will definitely be the class of the ww division in a year or so.

But right now, his lack of big name experience would be a drawback. We haven't seen him in tough against a true, quality opponent.

But then again, it wouldn't surprise me if he was able to beat them all right now.

Today, matchups with the division stars would be close bouts for Spence. Down the road, he will dominate.

But Jewboy, are you really arguing that Spence couldn't handle Provodnikov today. The same Provodnikov who recently was bested by past his prime, one-dimensional John Molina???

Spence would decimate Provodnikov at will....TODAY.

Not you. I was talking to Bnov.

[SenorPipino]

Never mind, then.

[Kalan]

What I would say is that real top guys at 147 are being severely underrated.

Spence will wipe them all out ...
Crawford will wipe them all out ...

All bullshit.

Bradley, Thurman, Brook, Porter, & GARCIA are bad men.
They just happened to exist during a rare two ATG era.

With that level of fighter fresh in our memory, it's easy to underrate regular greatness.

Bradley and Garcia are 2 BLATANT F**KING DUCKERS... Errol Spence would CRUSH them... Spence would crush Pacquiao in 5 rounds. He'd destroy the midget.. Sheeet man, Spence put a beating on Floyd in sparring when he had 16 fights... Errol was ripping a ton of right hooks and also left uppercuts and left hooks in on Floyd like it was nothing... And screw Pacquiao.. Why do you think little Manny fought weaklings such as Algieri, Rios, and Bradley his last couple years as a pro when Brook, Thurman, and Porter were calling him out???? ... Pac was supposed to fight Crawford for his last fight, and before you know it he's fighting Bradley again.. Thurman knocked Diego Chaves out and tried to get a Bradley fight... Bradley fought Chaves instead and couldn't even beat him ... Fkking duckers.

[Impractical Poster]

Never mind, then.

Sry man. I should have quoted him.

[jewboypgh]

Spence is a beast. He's ready for either of them. The guy he ain't ready for is Vasquez

[BAD INTENTIONS]

What I would say is that real top guys at 147 are being severely underrated.

Spence will wipe them all out ...
Crawford will wipe them all out ...

All bullshit.

Bradley, Thurman, Brook, Porter, & GARCIA are bad men.
They just happened to exist during a rare two ATG era.

With that level of fighter fresh in our memory, it's easy to underrate regular greatness.

Bradley and Garcia are 2 BLATANT F**KING DUCKERS... Errol Spence would CRUSH them... Spence would crush Pacquiao in 5 rounds. He'd destroy the midget.. Sheeet man, Spence put a beating on Floyd in sparring when he had 16 fights... Errol was ripping a ton of right hooks and also left uppercuts and left hooks in on Floyd like it was nothing... And screw Pacquiao.. Why do you think little Manny fought weaklings such as Algieri, Rios, and Bradley his last couple years as a pro when Brook, Thurman, and Porter were calling him out???? ... Pac was supposed to fight Crawford for his last fight, and before you know it he's fighting Bradley again.. Thurman knocked Diego Chaves out and tried to get a Bradley fight... Bradley fought Chaves instead and couldn't even beat him ... Fkking duckers.

Povetkin ducked Wilder by purposefully getting himself suspended.

Povetkin could have fought better fighters throughout his career. He basically feasted on Mike Perez type fighters.
Barely beat Huck ... a cruiser.

Then in his one big fight, he didn't even try.

It's crazy how you could defend this guy but skew your view of guys fighting at 147.

If what the guys down there are what you say they are, then what does that say about all the guy you do support?

Any of them fought a schedule like Timothy Bradley?

You are sadly biased.

[rivado]

Errol Spence mops the floor with Thurman and annihilates the Emmanuel Augustus-like Porter. My opinion.

[bnovelist]

Are you serious? Thurman is one tough SOB! He has the speed and power of Roy Jones @ 147lbs what you talkin bout fella?

[bnovelist]

I'm giving Thurman so much respect because he just beat an elevated version of Porter. This is seriously the best I have seen from Shawn Porter he

added new facets to his game and was in the best shape in his life! Porter is sort of like a Ray Mercer/Hoyfield hybrid and Thurman weathered that

storm so how can you say that Errol Spence would walk right through Keith One Time? Come on boy wake up now

[bnovelist]

I saw something I didn't like from Errol Spence he let Algeirie spin him around and he looked clueless for about 2-3 sec but Chris didn't have that

killer instinct to take advantage. Thurman? If you let Thurman spin you into the ropes like that be lookin for 3-4 bombs to your DOME!

[rivado]

The thing I like most about Spence is that he throws punches with both hands in combinations. With speed and power. And seems to be a well-rounder thinking fighter. Whereas Thurman seems one dimensional with overrated power. Slow and lacks defense...and now that I think about it------he has no where near the athletic prowess of a prime RJJ. Don't kid yourself...

[rivado]

And Porter is more Emmanuel Augustus than Ray Mercer or Holyfield...not even close.

[Counter-puncher]

Porter and Augustus could hardly be more different

[Kalan]

Porter is a lot like Mickey Walker.. Walker fought Welterweight for about his first 50 fights, but eventually fought World Champion caliber Heavyweights like Max Schmeling. Walker was super tough, attacked behind the jab, and was relentless. He was a very tough man like Porter. Another relentless guy was Carmen Basilio, but he easier to hit and a little more crude offensively than Porter.

[rowell555]

What I would say is that real top guys at 147 are being severely underrated.

Spence will wipe them all out ...
Crawford will wipe them all out ...

All bullshit.

Bradley, Thurman, Brook, Porter, & GARCIA are bad men.
They just happened to exist during a rare two ATG era.

With that level of fighter fresh in our memory, it's easy to underrate regular greatness.

Bradley and Garcia are 2 BLATANT F**KING DUCKERS... Errol Spence would CRUSH them... Spence would crush Pacquiao in 5 rounds. He'd destroy the midget.. Sheeet man, Spence put a beating on Floyd in sparring when he had 16 fights... Errol was ripping a ton of right hooks and also left uppercuts and left hooks in on Floyd like it was nothing... And screw Pacquiao.. Why do you think little Manny fought weaklings such as Algieri, Rios, and Bradley his last couple years as a pro when Brook, Thurman, and Porter were calling him out???? ... Pac was supposed to fight Crawford for his last fight, and before you know it he's fighting Bradley again.. Thurman knocked Diego Chaves out and tried to get a Bradley fight... Bradley fought Chaves instead and couldn't even beat him ... Fkking duckers.

Manny is just old enough bro. manny will destroy thurman brook and porter if manny is 7years younger hahaha

[rowell555]

I think Spence Jr. will have bigger chance to beat thurman than porter