I think Floyd Mayweather returns to fight Golovkin

[foxdog1923]

If only Golovkin was 49 and 0 right now cos then maybe Floyd might be interested due to his undefeated 50 and 0 being on the brink off getting swept into obscurity.

[Ian1973]

If only Golovkin was 49 and 0 right now cos then maybe Floyd might be interested due to his undefeated 50 and 0 being on the brink off getting swept into obscurity.

Floyd Mayweather, if nothing else, is a very, very smart guy. He knows he couldn't beat Golovkin and there's no way he'd fight him in a zillion years.

Way too smart and that is a credit to him.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Who cares about Mayweather. He cherrypicked his way through the last 10 years of his career thereby ruining his legacy.

The clown should be ignored until his nasty cowardly side shows itself again by battering another woman and hopefully he'll do a long stretch in San Quentin where his "Pretty Boy" moniker will win him many new friends

[Loki]

Stupid thread.

[Kalan]

A Golovkin fight is the only one worth 9 figures to see Floyd return.

How?

I keep hearing how Golovkin isn't a big name & can't generate numbers, so how does he do it against Mayweather?

Surely, the only guy who Mayweather can come back against & generate those telephone number-like figures is Alvarez?

GGG hasn't been allowed the fights that would build him into the best PPV fighter... He needs dance partners but he sells out live venues... People don't pay to see PPV mismatches... If GGG had gotten: Sergio Martinez... Miguel Cotto... Canelo Alvarez... Peter Quillin... Daniel Jacobs... Billy Joe Saunders... and Floyd Mayweather into a ring he'd be the WORLD'S BIGGEST PVV SUPERSTAR RIGHT NOW!!!!

If Golovkin were an AMERICAN he would have had gotten all those fights---and he'd be the biggest thing EVER in Boxing History.

[Kalan]

Rather that's WORLD'S BIGGEST PPV SUPERSTAR

[Tomasino]

Rather that's WORLD'S BIGGEST PPV SUPERSTAR

Thanks for clarifying

[man]

no. way.

[rivado]

Mayweather certainly has the style and ring smarts to defeat GGG

Is what I am saying...he most certainly does. You could argue that Money would be better equipped than was SRL against Hagler ( top 10 all time 160lber) or better than Trinidad was against Hopkins (top 10 all time 160lber)... I mean why wouldn;t the best fighter of our generation, a solid top 3 welter of recent note, be capable of beating what many consider a less skilled middleweight champion if compared to those of recent history... at the end of the day Floyd would be ranked ahead of GGG in all time, easily. I think this is a winnable fight for Floyd but a dangerous one. The biggest risk in possible comeback fights so therefore worth the high price tag Floyd is looking for in a return.

I mean, it is no too far fetched that we would be talking about a Floyd vs. Canelo rematch in a fight for the world middleweight crown. Just a thought.

[rivado]

A Golovkin fight is the only one worth 9 figures to see Floyd return.

How?

I keep hearing how Golovkin isn't a big name & can't generate numbers, so how does he do it against Mayweather?

Surely, the only guy who Mayweather can come back against & generate those telephone number-like figures is Alvarez?

Yeah but that didn't keep Floyd from making fights versus Baldomir, Judah, Maidana or Berto...not one of those dudes where PPV draws. Run a poll today and I would bet that a Floyd vs Golovkin serves the appetite of the boxing consumer well and better than any of those listed and better than potential showcases versus younger and lesser known fighters like Thurman, Garcia or a Porter for example...

It comes down to Brook or Golovkin if Floyd wants a maximum return on my dollar.

[Lackeos]

Mayweather certainly has the style and ring smarts to defeat GGG

Is what I am saying...he most certainly does. You could argue that Money would be better equipped than was SRL against Hagler ( top 10 all time 160lber) or better than Trinidad was against Hopkins (top 10 all time 160lber)... I mean why wouldn;t the best fighter of our generation, a solid top 3 welter of recent note, be capable of beating what many consider a less skilled middleweight champion if compared to those of recent history... at the end of the day Floyd would be ranked ahead of GGG in all time, easily. I think this is a winnable fight for Floyd but a dangerous one. The biggest risk in possible comeback fights so therefore worth the high price tag Floyd is looking for in a return.

I mean, it is no too far fetched that we would be talking about a Floyd vs. Canelo rematch in a fight for the world middleweight crown. Just a thought.

Mayweather barely beat a past-in De La Hoya. Now, Mayweather is significantly older and more inactive than he was then. Golovkin is way bigger and better than past-it, 154-pound De La Hoya. Take Mayweather's 7-5 win, swing about 3 or 4 rounds the other way (because Mayweather is worse now and Golovkin is better than DLH), and Mayweather loses roughly 3-9, if he even survives to see the final bell.

Mayweather's last fight was against Andre Berto, and it was shockingly competitive. Berto isn't even a top 15 welterweight. Golovkin is a God compared to Berto. If Mayweather does anything less than a complete shutout of Berto in which he doesn't even get touched, then Golovkin kills him.

It's as though you're not even aware of how much Mayweather has been struggling with ordinary welterweights. I scored his first fight with Maidana 5-7. That was Maidana, who was barely a top 10 welterweight at the time. It wasn't Golovkin, a guy who would f*cking cream Maidana. Mayweather unofficially lost to Maidana. I can't stress enough how vastly inferior Maidana is to Golovkin in an absolute sense. If Maidana climbed into the ring with Golovkin, he would get turned into a skid mark on the apron in a few rounds at most.

[rivado]

Mayweather certainly has the style and ring smarts to defeat GGG

Is what I am saying...he most certainly does. You could argue that Money would be better equipped than was SRL against Hagler ( top 10 all time 160lber) or better than Trinidad was against Hopkins (top 10 all time 160lber)... I mean why wouldn;t the best fighter of our generation, a solid top 3 welter of recent note, be capable of beating what many consider a less skilled middleweight champion if compared to those of recent history... at the end of the day Floyd would be ranked ahead of GGG in all time, easily. I think this is a winnable fight for Floyd but a dangerous one. The biggest risk in possible comeback fights so therefore worth the high price tag Floyd is looking for in a return.

I mean, it is no too far fetched that we would be talking about a Floyd vs. Canelo rematch in a fight for the world middleweight crown. Just a thought.

Mayweather barely beat a past-in De La Hoya. Now, Mayweather is significantly older and more inactive than he was then. Golovkin is way bigger and better than past-it, 154-pound De La Hoya. Take Mayweather's 7-5 win, swing about 3 or 4 rounds the other way (because Mayweather is worse now and Golovkin is better than DLH), and Mayweather loses roughly 3-9, if he even survives to see the final bell.

Mayweather's last fight was against Andre Berto, and it was shockingly competitive. Berto isn't even a top 15 welterweight. Golovkin is a God compared to Berto. If Mayweather does anything less than a complete shutout of Berto in which he doesn't even get touched, then Golovkin kills him.

It's as though you're not even aware of how much Mayweather has been struggling with ordinary welterweights. I scored his first fight with Maidana 5-7. That was Maidana, who was barely a top 10 welterweight at the time. It wasn't Golovkin, a guy who would f*cking cream Maidana. Mayweather unofficially lost to Maidana. I can't stress enough how vastly inferior Maidana is to Golovkin in an absolute sense. If Maidana climbed into the ring with Golovkin, he would get turned into a skid mark on the apron in a few rounds at most.

So to sum it all up...Mayweather doesn't have a prospective opponent that would 1.) garner the imagination of PPV buyers let alone real fight fans 2.) further add to his legacy with a win and 3.) justify a 9 figure payday for his return...

Looks like Floyd is out of options and should just fade to Bolivian.

Pacman would have to clear out the welterweights, regain the throne, become undisputed, and look invincible doing it before I pay for MayPac II and I won't be paying for Thurman or Garcia vs Floyd anytime soon or vs. Canelo for that matter...forget Broner. If we had Floyd vs. Brook in a US vs UK showdown I might buy.

[Kalan]

Mayweather certainly has the style and ring smarts to defeat GGG

Is what I am saying...he most certainly does. You could argue that Money would be better equipped than was SRL against Hagler ( top 10 all time 160lber) or better than Trinidad was against Hopkins (top 10 all time 160lber)... I mean why wouldn;t the best fighter of our generation, a solid top 3 welter of recent note, be capable of beating what many consider a less skilled middleweight champion if compared to those of recent history... at the end of the day Floyd would be ranked ahead of GGG in all time, easily. I think this is a winnable fight for Floyd but a dangerous one. The biggest risk in possible comeback fights so therefore worth the high price tag Floyd is looking for in a return.

I mean, it is no too far fetched that we would be talking about a Floyd vs. Canelo rematch in a fight for the world middleweight crown. Just a thought.

Mayweather barely beat a past-in De La Hoya. Now, Mayweather is significantly older and more inactive than he was then. Golovkin is way bigger and better than past-it, 154-pound De La Hoya. Take Mayweather's 7-5 win, swing about 3 or 4 rounds the other way (because Mayweather is worse now and Golovkin is better than DLH), and Mayweather loses roughly 3-9, if he even survives to see the final bell.

Mayweather's last fight was against Andre Berto, and it was shockingly competitive. Berto isn't even a top 15 welterweight. Golovkin is a God compared to Berto. If Mayweather does anything less than a complete shutout of Berto in which he doesn't even get touched, then Golovkin kills him.

It's as though you're not even aware of how much Mayweather has been struggling with ordinary welterweights. I scored his first fight with Maidana 5-7. That was Maidana, who was barely a top 10 welterweight at the time. It wasn't Golovkin, a guy who would f*cking cream Maidana. Mayweather unofficially lost to Maidana. I can't stress enough how vastly inferior Maidana is to Golovkin in an absolute sense. If Maidana climbed into the ring with Golovkin, he would get turned into a skid mark on the apron in a few rounds at most.

Your post is absolutely true... Floyd hated to fight guys who attacked and put pressure on him... He actually fought nobody who could do that... Who pressured Amir Khan better, Danny Garcia or Marcos Maidana???... How did Maidana do with Devon Alexander???... Did Maidana KO Erik Morales???... So Maidana was not the best boxer, puncher, or most efficient attacker... If Floyd fought Welterweights like Spence... Brook.. Thurman.. or Porter..much less GGG, he would have been in loads of trouble.

[rivado]

side note: as I read your post and realized the names mentioned, I was like woah! What an amazing era in boxing...

[Kalan]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

[gilgamesh]

A Golovkin fight is the only one worth 9 figures to see Floyd return.

The only 9 figure purse out there for Floyd Mayweather should he return is a Manny rematch. Floyd will never even be in talks to fight Golovkin. He won't even pretend to entertain the idea of fighting him.

[gilgamesh]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Most people don't think Mayweather is a Top 3 Welterweight. Much as I adore Golovkin he still needs some marquee wins to put himself up there with the Haglers of the world. The Middleweight division has a rich history.

[lazboy]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Kalan I'm replying to this and your previous comment. Your saying Floyd fought no one who attacked and put pressure on him? Am I misreading that?

Regarding the Maidana fight, did you watch that fight? Maidana rushed him for about 5 rounds until he punched himself out. Maidana a big power punching welterweight with an awkward style and punches. Mayweather was never hurt from the attack. He then beat him soundly down the stretch because its pro boxing not amateur. In the second fight, a fight which you did not mention, he stayed on the outside and just outboxed him. The lazy Floyd way.

What do you mean Floyd has been down twice? What when he broke his left hand against Hernandez and it touched the canvas and then he went on to win the fight or when Judah punched him in the balls?

Comparing GGG and Floyd round losses this early in GGG career. GGG has been pro boxing for 10 years and is in his “prime”. Wait till GGG has been boxing for 20 years and see if he loses a round.

Fair question...have you seen the fights or are you just reading the boxrec stats?

[Kalan]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Kalan I'm replying to this and your previous comment. Your saying Floyd fought no one who attacked and put pressure on him? Am I misreading that?

Regarding the Maidana fight, did you watch that fight? Maidana rushed him for about 5 rounds until he punched himself out. Maidana a big power punching welterweight with an awkward style and punches. Mayweather was never hurt from the attack. He then beat him soundly down the stretch because its pro boxing not amateur. In the second fight, a fight which you did not mention, he stayed on the outside and just outboxed him. The lazy Floyd way.

What do you mean Floyd has been down twice? What when he broke his left hand against Hernandez and it touched the canvas and then he went on to win the fight or when Judah punched him in the balls?

Comparing GGG and Floyd round losses this early in GGG career. GGG has been pro boxing for 10 years and is in his “prime”. Wait till GGG has been boxing for 20 years and see if he loses a round.

Fair question...have you seen the fights or are you just reading the boxrec stats?

Of course I've seen the Floyd-Maidana fights... The 2nd one Floyd had his favorite referee (Bayless) breaking clinches continuously, often when Maidana had an arm free to punch, saying "Stop punching... Break... Step back" so Floyd gets to go outside reset again, and Maidana had to work his way in again, at which point "Stop punching... Break... Step back"... I also saw Bayless give Robert Guerrero full reign to butt, foul, push, infight, shoulder, and otherwise foul the crap out of Keith Thurman... in a fight Bayless was trying to get Guerrero to win so Floyd wouldn't have to fight Thurman.. Thurman beat Guerreto by a 14-point aggregate wider points margin than Floyd did... The thing is Floyd never had to fight Thurman anyway because he cherry-picked Andre Berto -- a guy who lost 4 of his last 8 fights while getting knocked down 7 times... GGG fights the best Middleweight who will face him, Floyd fights only cherry-picks.

I also saw Maidana lose every round to Devon Alexander... saw him lose to Amir Khan... saw him lose to Kotelnik... and saw him avoid Thurman, Brook, and Porter for years ... and just not fight anyone since he got the Floyd fight and the division became a lot tougher than it was when MM was losing to everybody.

[jamesmcdonnell]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Most people don't think Mayweather is a Top 3 Welterweight. Much as I adore Golovkin he still needs some marquee wins to put himself up there with the Haglers of the world. The Middleweight division has a rich history.

I don't know anyone apart from insane Floyd fans, who rates him top 3 Welterweight, it's not even his best weight. Floyd was past his best at WW, and cherry picking his fights. Of course, in Kalan's world, EVERYONE is ovverating him to the detriment of GGG, who is the best fighter who ever lived.

It's impossible to have a reasonable discussion with Kalan, he just starts spouting nonsense, everything leads to GGG being the best ever, and him picking holes in everyone's careers pointing out how inferior they are to him.

The guy is either GGG's mum, or he's mentally ill. I'm a GGG fan, but listening to Kalan actually puts me off him.

[Kalan]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Most people don't think Mayweather is a Top 3 Welterweight. Much as I adore Golovkin he still needs some marquee wins to put himself up there with the Haglers of the world. The Middleweight division has a rich history.

I never saw Hagler fight any natural Middleweight who was as good as: Mike McCallum... Michael Nunn... James Toney... Reggie Johnson... Gennady Golovkin... Rodrigo Valdez... Carlos Monzon... Mickey Walker... Stanley Ketchel... Billy Papke... or Harry Greb... Start the above link at 2:02

[lazboy]

How does Floyd get to be a top 3 Welterweight when he loses 5 rounds to a non-boxer like Maidana???.. You gotta be kidding!!!.. Golovkin never lost more than a round to any opponent.. Floyd was down twice -- once officially against Hernandez and once against Judah... Sugar Ray Leonard was down 7 times.. Once against Lalonde.. Once against Howard.. Once against Camacho.. Twice against Norris.. Twice against Hearns.. Yet Leonard came off a 3-year-layoff and beat Hagler in his 1st start at Middleweight --- and it wasn't the 1st time somebody beat Hagler.. When Willie Monroe beat Hagler it was the 3rd time Hagler failed to win a fight.

Golovkin is 17-0 in Middleweight Title fights with 17 KOs.. He's undefeated.. He never lost more than a round to any opponent, and was never knocked down.. Hagler was 13-1-1 in Middleweight Title fights with 12 KO's.. he lost quite a few rounds and was knocked down once.. Hagler also ducked Harol Graham and Mike McCallum.. Golovkin Is the man who Is BEING ducked., in fact this is what Mike McCallum had to say about Hagler refusing to fight him, and flagrantly DUCKING him

Start this video at 2:02/8:03 and see McCallum expose Hagler as a ducker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Kalan I'm replying to this and your previous comment. Your saying Floyd fought no one who attacked and put pressure on him? Am I misreading that?

Regarding the Maidana fight, did you watch that fight? Maidana rushed him for about 5 rounds until he punched himself out. Maidana a big power punching welterweight with an awkward style and punches. Mayweather was never hurt from the attack. He then beat him soundly down the stretch because its pro boxing not amateur. In the second fight, a fight which you did not mention, he stayed on the outside and just outboxed him. The lazy Floyd way.

What do you mean Floyd has been down twice? What when he broke his left hand against Hernandez and it touched the canvas and then he went on to win the fight or when Judah punched him in the balls?

Comparing GGG and Floyd round losses this early in GGG career. GGG has been pro boxing for 10 years and is in his “prime”. Wait till GGG has been boxing for 20 years and see if he loses a round.

Fair question...have you seen the fights or are you just reading the boxrec stats?

Of course I've seen the Floyd-Maidana fights... The 2nd one Floyd had his favorite referee (Bayless) breaking clinches continuously, often when Maidana had an arm free to punch, saying "Stop punching... Break... Step back" so Floyd gets to go outside reset again, and Maidana had to work his way in again, at which point "Stop punching... Break... Step back"... I also saw Bayless give Robert Guerrero full reign to butt, foul, push, infight, shoulder, and otherwise foul the crap out of Keith Thurman... in a fight Bayless was trying to get Guerrero to win so Floyd wouldn't have to fight Thurman.. Thurman beat Guerreto by a 14-point aggregate wider points margin than Floyd did... The thing is Floyd never had to fight Thurman anyway because he cherry-picked Andre Berto -- a guy who lost 4 of his last 8 fights while getting knocked down 7 times... GGG fights the best Middleweight who will face him, Floyd fights only cherry-picks.

I also saw Maidana lose every round to Devon Alexander... saw him lose to Amir Khan... saw him lose to Kotelnik... and saw him avoid Thurman, Brook, and Porter for years ... and just not fight anyone since he got the Floyd fight and the division became a lot tougher than it was when MM was losing to everybody.

Not only have you avoided my questions and logic you have introduced a nonsense conspiracy encompassing Bayless, Mayweather, Thurman and Maidana. Plus you are spouting that Andre Berto rap again, Mayweather had just come from the biggest fight in boxing, he picked an easy fight. Judging his whole career on his last fight my god, if we did that with all boxers we would have no Hall of Famers in your opinion. It did bother me the way you talk about some of these inspirational figures (including Mayweather and others), the worlds top athletes but now I know you think different from me and I will not try to convince you otherwise.

[Kalan]

What do you mean I didn't answer your questions??? ... YOU saw Floyd get knocked down early in the Judah fight and Richard Steele ignored it... I'm not talking about when he got punched in the balls... I answered your question on Floyd-Maidana 2, you just didn't like the answer.

And Golovkin fights the toughest Middleweights who will face him... Floyd avoided the toughest welterweights... You're excusing his Berto cherry-pick -- what if GGG did that??? ... Golovkin doesn't have to fight for 20 years to prove his better than Floyd.. He just has to destroy everyone while Floyd barely put a dent in anyone.. and he has to fight the toughest Middleweights who will face him -- while Floyd avoided the toughest welters.

[lazboy]

What do you mean I didn't answer your questions??? ... YOU saw Floyd get knocked down early in the Judah fight and Richard Steele ignored it... I'm not talking about when he got punched in the balls... I answered your question on Floyd-Maidana 2, you just didn't like the answer.

And Golovkin fights the toughest Middleweights who will face him... Floyd avoided the toughest welterweights... You're excusing his Berto cherry-pick -- what if GGG did that??? ... Golovkin doesn't have to fight for 20 years to prove his better than Floyd.. He just has to destroy everyone while Floyd barely put a dent in anyone.. and he has to fight the toughest Middleweights who will face him -- while Floyd avoided the toughest welters.

Absolute nonsense. I'm not comparing who is better. Yes he picked an easier opponent with Berto, we already discussed that earlier on in the thread and you had no response. It's time for both of us to move on. I'm tired and a little constipated.

[Oiky]

Floyd won't comeback to take that hiding