Olympics-Pro boxers who compete in Rio will lose titles-IBF

[man]

This was already answered... there is not enough money to attract the best. Do you think Mayweather would rather:
(1) stay pro, negotiate another 30 mln fight with "proper" opponent
(2)go back to amateurs, fight 4-5 opponents in about two weeks time during Olympics, all this for virtually no money, and risk his "0" that way?
...
Once again... they meet each other and it was even worse in the past. Before 90's, majority of amateurs from eastern block were in fact "professional" amateurs as boxing was their full-time job, but they could not turn pro. Nowadays it is only Cuba, but the reasoning stays the same.

roy jones back in the day could have
thought he enters for revenge. and
"professional amateur" is not the same
as "professional professional" facing the
best of the best who are not paid by the
state but by beating difficult top
opponents. and what is the upside?
to improve amateur boxing? why is that
an issue and for whom?

[man]

I have no sympathy for the weaklings.

goodness, what a stupid statement.

[Horse]

goodness, what a stupid statement.

What's stupid about it?

Weaklings should not be qualifying for the Olympics in the first place.

[man]

goodness, what a stupid statement.

What's stupid about it?

Weaklings should not be qualifying for the Olympics in the first place.

how is the top amateur of azerbadjan
a "weakling"? how is he a "loser"? just
because he is not the best pro on the
planet? this weird idea just makes bad
matchups possible.

i am not a boxer myself, maybe that is
why i have so much respect for everyone
who enters that ring, especially if they
turn out to be the best amateur of an
entire country. "weakling" would not be
in my vocabulary ...

[boxing_rocks]

Best amateurs from top boxing countries will beat contender level professionals with amateur rules and gloves. Note that most of professionals will have to fight at higher weights, for example N'Dam fights at 178, so he would have to face likes of amateur Ward or Beterbiev.

If top professionals like Kovalev which for some reason weren't able to get to Olympics before want to try that, they should be able to do so.

[Horse]

how is the top amateur of azerbadjan
a "weakling"? how is he a "loser"? just
because he is not the best pro on the
planet? this weird idea just makes bad
matchups possible.

i am not a boxer myself, maybe that is
why i have so much respect for everyone
who enters that ring, especially if they
turn out to be the best amateur of an
entire country. "weakling" would not be
in my vocabulary ...

When you say that they need to be protected from the best pros, you imply that they are weaklings and that they are not man enough to fight a proper fighter.

You have less respect for them than me.

[man]

When you say that they need to be protected from the best pros, you imply that they are weaklings and that they are not man enough to fight a proper fighter.

You have less respect for them than me.

yes. i believe that a regional amateur
champ needs to be protected from
facing the world professional champ.
and i have no idea why that makes
him a weakling. the olympics are designed
to favour geographic diversity over quality.

the pros are said to be a different game,
which is why not all top amateurs make
it there. promoters spend years building up
amateur prospects within the professional
game.

anthony joshua won the olympics and no
one suggested he should enter the pros
by fighting a top ten fighter. in fact had
anyone proposed that he would have been
a laughing stock here at the board for having
no idea about boxing. and if you doubt that,
just start a thread like that after the olympic
tournament ...

[Horse]

yes. i believe that a regional amateur
champ needs to be protected from
facing the world professional champ.
and i have no idea why that makes
him a weakling. the olympics are designed
to favour geographic diversity over quality.

the pros are said to be a different game,
which is why not all top amateurs make
it there. promoters spend years building up
amateur prospects within the professional
game.

anthony joshua won the olympics and no
one suggested he should enter the pros
by fighting a top ten fighter. in fact had
anyone proposed that he would have been
a laughing stock here at the board for having
no idea about boxing. and if you doubt that,
just start a thread like that after the olympic
tournament ...

Let the weaklings be destroyed.

To hell with such bums!

[man]

Best amateurs from top boxing countries will beat contender level professionals with amateur rules and gloves. ...

sure. not the point though. you have
to protect the vulnerable by avoiding
unreasonable matchups.

If top professionals like Kovalev which for some reason weren't able to get to Olympics before want to try that, they should be able to do so.

yes, please show me kovalev against
an amateur from azerbajan.

[man]

Let the weaklings be destroyed.

To hell with such bums!

i got it, sir. let's call it a conversation.

[Horse]

i got it, sir. let's call it a conversation.

You don't respect the amateur game and neither do I.

We both have different solutions to the problem.

[boxing_rocks]

Best amateurs from top boxing countries will beat contender level professionals with amateur rules and gloves. ...

sure. not the point though. you have
to protect the vulnerable by avoiding
unreasonable matchups.

If top professionals like Kovalev which for some reason weren't able to get to Olympics before want to try that, they should be able to do so.

yes, please show me kovalev against
an amateur from azerbajan.

Vulnerable shouldn't go to Olympics. They lose in qualifiers.

An amateur from Uzbekistan stopped Kovalev some time ago, so I don't see why a good amateur from Azerbaijan can't. Kovalev would wear big uncomfortable gloves, so he wouldn't be such a monster, and if he still beats everybody (probably at heavyweight of 90 kilos against likes of Usyk), then he deserves an Olympic gold.

[man]

An amateur from Uzbekistan stopped Kovalev some time ago, so I don't see why a good amateur from Azerbaijan can't.

as in 3o pro fights ago? you think if
he was dropped back then by an amateur,
another amateur could drop him now?
which is implying as well that the guy
who dropped him back then still drops
him now? is this what you are saying?

hell, let's stop the conversation and go
find that guy. he is in for the p4p title
at the pros and we do not even know
his name.

[man]

i got it, sir. let's call it a conversation.

You don't respect the amateur game and neither do I.

i have a lot of respect for the amateur game,
just do not expect it to be as tough as one of
the toughest professional sports out there.

[boxing_rocks]

An amateur from Uzbekistan stopped Kovalev some time ago, so I don't see why a good amateur from Azerbaijan can't.

as in 3o pro fights ago? you think if
he was dropped back then by an amateur,
another amateur could drop him now?
which is implying as well that the guy
who dropped him back then still drops
him now? is this what you are saying?

hell, let's stop the conversation and go
find that guy. he is in for the p4p title
at the pros and we do not even know
his name.

There are new good amateurs. Once again, with bigger uncomfortable gloves, Kovalev is not that monster he is in professional game, and he has weaknesses. Anyway, if no amateur can beat him, he deserves an Olympic gold.

[man]

An amateur from Uzbekistan stopped Kovalev some time ago, so I don't see why a good amateur from Azerbaijan can't.

as in 3o pro fights ago? you think if
he was dropped back then by an amateur,
another amateur could drop him now?
which is implying as well that the guy
who dropped him back then still drops
him now? is this what you are saying?

hell, let's stop the conversation and go
find that guy. he is in for the p4p title
at the pros and we do not even know
his name.

There are new good amateurs. Once again, with bigger uncomfortable gloves, Kovalev is not that monster he is in professional game ...

you mentioned before that kovalev was
"stopped" by an amateur. yet he himself,
now at the peak of the professional scale,
is not "that monster"? indicating he won't
stop these weakling amateurs?

[Boxing Prospect]

So N'Dam and Amnat lost in the final of the qualifiers (though both had qualified)...wow bet those amateurs sure do feel pissed now! How dare the Pro's come in and dominate!

[boxing_rocks]

So N'Dam and Amnat lost in the final of the qualifiers (though both had qualified)...wow bet those amateurs sure do feel pissed now! How dare the Pro's come in and dominate!

N'Dam and Ruen... should have just pulled Ward and pretend injured, as they already had Olympic spots.

[Boxing Prospect]

So N'Dam and Amnat lost in the final of the qualifiers (though both had qualified)...wow bet those amateurs sure do feel pissed now! How dare the Pro's come in and dominate!

N'Dam and Ruen... should have just pulled Ward and pretend injured, as they already had Olympic spots.

Think Amnat did ;)