Mistake on Danny Williams' record, please correct

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Re: Mistake on Danny Williams' record, please correct

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Tuan_Jim wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
dawudbryant wrote:

Sometimes you have to do things for money that you aren't happy about. Danny has kids in private schools and needs to keep paying their expensive fees. Hes retired now though. He only accepted the Krasniqi bout because it was an exhibition and wouldn't get hurt.
I'm sure Danny's kids would survive being in state school. Perhaps he should consider his own well being.

If that sounds harsh, it is, as is the reality of being punched in the head for a living.
Have you seen a London state school? They're not going to get a private standard of education in one of those zoo pens. I find what Danny did quite noble. He put his children's future ahead of his health. Most dads from Brixton don't even bother to stick around. To put his kids through private school, and pay the fees by enduring physical abuse, is as gallant as it gets.
Most dads in Brixton don't stick around? What a load of cobblers, don't generalise.

Let's hope Danny's nobility doesn't cost him his health.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I'm sure Danny's kids would survive being in state school. Perhaps he should consider his own well being.

If that sounds harsh, it is, as is the reality of being punched in the head for a living.
Have you seen a London state school? They're not going to get a private standard of education in one of those zoo pens. I find what Danny did quite noble. He put his children's future ahead of his health. Most dads from Brixton don't even bother to stick around. To put his kids through private school, and pay the fees by enduring physical abuse, is as gallant as it gets.
Most dads in Brixton don't stick around? What a load of cobblers, don't generalise.

Let's hope Danny's nobility doesn't cost him his health.
Whatever the result I hope his children appreciate it. I wonder what Michael Sprott's incentive to continue is? That chin has totally departed.
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Tuan_Jim wrote:
Whatever the result I hope his children appreciate it. I wonder what Michael Sprott's incentive to continue is? That chin has totally departed.
Money pure and simple. Sad it ends up this way for so many fighters who often don't know anything else but fighting.
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Re: Mistake on Danny Williams' record, please correct

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Here is proof. Scroll down to see what is written about the bout. Information taken from the baltic boxing league.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/3/29/41 ... ontroversy


The bout was classed as a public sparring session and had no judges.

Please take the bout off their records.
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I'm no expert, but this seems a rather short sparring session...
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gb wrote:I'm no expert, but this seems a rather short sparring session...

A public spar/exhibition can last a couple of rds. Ali got ko'd in a few in his time
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The Law wrote:Did they announce it as an exhibition fight? If you can show me footage where it was announced as an exhibition then I will request for it to be removed.

Here is proof. Scroll down to see what is written about the bout. Information taken from the baltic boxing league.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/3/29/41 ... ontroversy


The bout was classed as a public sparring session and had no judges according to the governing body.

Please take the bout off their records.
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dawudbryant wrote:
The Law wrote:Did they announce it as an exhibition fight? If you can show me footage where it was announced as an exhibition then I will request for it to be removed.

Here is proof. Scroll down to see what is written about the bout. Information taken from the baltic boxing league.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/3/29/41 ... ontroversy


The bout was classed as a public sparring session and had no judges according to the governing body.

Please take the bout off their records.
On that website it states "Supposedly it was deemed "public sparring for publicity" by the Baltic Boxing League. They claimed there were no judges but the referee (who may serve as a judge) was clearly legit. He waved the fight off following the 4th knee Williams took in round 2."

That does not clear up anything, quite the contrary. In fact that website is implying that it was actually a legit fight despite the supposition.
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Actually it says what the board said, then mentions that the ref counted knockdowns. That doesn't mean the fight was real. The board is admitting its fake and as Danny was told beforehand to go down when hit cleanly, its hardly too far fetched to imagine that the ref was told to play along and count when Danny went over from clearly false knockdowns. A real ref in a real fight would've deducted points or disqualified him for taking knees on such pathetic blows.
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Re: Mistake on Danny Williams' record, please correct

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The Law wrote:
dawudbryant wrote:
The Law wrote:Did they announce it as an exhibition fight? If you can show me footage where it was announced as an exhibition then I will request for it to be removed.

Here is proof. Scroll down to see what is written about the bout. Information taken from the baltic boxing league.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/3/29/41 ... ontroversy


The bout was classed as a public sparring session and had no judges according to the governing body.

Please take the bout off their records.
On that website it states "Supposedly it was deemed "public sparring for publicity" by the Baltic Boxing League. They claimed there were no judges but the referee (who may serve as a judge) was clearly legit. He waved the fight off following the 4th knee Williams took in round 2."

That does not clear up anything, quite the contrary. In fact that website is implying that it was actually a legit fight despite the supposition.




You are missing the point. It states that the Baltic Boxing League called the bout a public sparring session. Now if they are the ones sanctioning the bout and thats what they said, then thats all that matters. If the BBBofC said Dannys bout with Dominic Negus was a public sparring session then what right do u have to go against that when it was under the boards jurisdiction?

The Baltic Boxing League said its fake so its fake.
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dawudbryant wrote:
The Law wrote:
dawudbryant wrote:

Here is proof. Scroll down to see what is written about the bout. Information taken from the baltic boxing league.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/3/29/41 ... ontroversy


The bout was classed as a public sparring session and had no judges according to the governing body.

Please take the bout off their records.
On that website it states "Supposedly it was deemed "public sparring for publicity" by the Baltic Boxing League. They claimed there were no judges but the referee (who may serve as a judge) was clearly legit. He waved the fight off following the 4th knee Williams took in round 2."

That does not clear up anything, quite the contrary. In fact that website is implying that it was actually a legit fight despite the supposition.




You are missing the point. It states that the Baltic Boxing League called the bout a public sparring session. Now if they are the ones sanctioning the bout and thats what they said, then thats all that matters. If the BBBofC said Dannys bout with Dominic Negus was a public sparring session then what right do u have to go against that when it was under the boards jurisdiction?

The Baltic Boxing League said its fake so its fake.
Nowhere does it say that the Baltic League said it was fake. It says that they 'supposedly' said it was fake. The author of the article is merely sharing hearsay or rumours, hence why he uses the word 'supposedly'.
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Notice how everybody who reported on the fight said it was fake. Are they all mistaken?
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Do you know how I can contact the Baltic Boxing League?
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dawudbryant wrote:Do you know how I can contact the Baltic Boxing League?
They should have a website. Maybe do a Google search
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dawudbryant wrote:Notice how everybody who reported on the fight said it was fake. Are they all mistaken?
I have not come across one quote from a reputable reporter (or website) that states that it was definitely an exhibition bout. Also, as stated earlier, the website link which you provided does not say it was definitely an exhibition bout. Also nothing was mentioned on the video.
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I am now locking this thread. If you come across any clear evidence then please send me a private message or post it on our 'Record queries and updates' forum.
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