Comprehensive fistic development achieved vs Christian Hammer and Joey Abell.Ian1973 wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:But...but....but...SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tyson Fury wouldn't land a punch on Ali. It's comedic how people think a 6'3 210 pound man in great shape is puny. Marciano would blast Stevenson and Fury.
TOO BIG TOO STRONG MODERN NUTRITION LOLZ
Also I guess Ian1973 didn't notice Fury getting decked by Pajkic and Cunningham.
I did. I also noticed Ali being floored by Cooper who despite the adoration of the British public was never world class.
Fury in the fights you mentioned was a work in progress he isn't anymore.
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boxing_rocks wrote:If Fury has reached his ceiling, then it is not high.Ian1973 wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:
But...but....but...
TOO BIG TOO STRONG MODERN NUTRITION LOLZ
Also I guess Ian1973 didn't notice Fury getting decked by Pajkic and Cunningham.
I did. I also noticed Ali being floored by Cooper who despite the adoration of the British public was never world class.
Fury in the fights you mentioned was a work in progress he isn't anymore.
Fury is still hugely under-rated. He's barely had a glove landed on him in his last four fights. His boxing has been beautiful. He may not be exciting and he doesn't excite but he is hugely efficient.
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I would bet money on both Jack Johnson or Harry Wills to beat Fury. Wills, imo, is one of the most under-rated heavys of all time, beating top heavys at the time as well as Sam Langford about 13 or 14 times. He couldn't get a fight with Dempsey because of the color line, which was put back in place after Johnson beat Jeffries.boxing_rocks wrote:You can't compare Fury who is a good boxer with quite a few drawbacks with the ATG from 1970s, but I am sure he would beat anybody from 1920s.
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Bro science at it's finest.boxing_rocks wrote:The bigger you are, the worse your conditioning is with the same training.jamesmcdonnell wrote:It makes me laugh when we hear so much about these 'advanced training methods' and yet modern heavyweights are blowing our of their arses after only 30 seconds of sustained effort, whereas the guys in the 1970's could fight at a hectic pace for 15 rounds.
If these modern training methods are so advanced, why are the modern heavyweights such poor athletes in general?
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Dempsey would slaughter fury and Jack is badly overrated by historians. He'd lose to dozens of fighters from that era. Fury cracks me up, but he's mediocre historically. John Ruiz would make sweet love to him.Badhusker wrote:I would bet money on both Jack Johnson or Harry Wills to beat Fury. Wills, imo, is one of the most under-rated heavys of all time, beating top heavys at the time as well as Sam Langford about 13 or 14 times. He couldn't get a fight with Dempsey because of the color line, which was put back in place after Johnson beat Jeffries.boxing_rocks wrote:You can't compare Fury who is a good boxer with quite a few drawbacks with the ATG from 1970s, but I am sure he would beat anybody from 1920s.
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If Brook shows anything near Martyn Murray's chin, considering he is quicker and carries a good dig, he goes a fair distance and takes a few rounds, he doesn't win, he does get stopped and I suspect ground down to the body being the main problem but considering his size and his boxing abilities and GGG isn't that hard to hit I don't think Brook will do too badly. It certainly is a win win for him if he manages to avoid getting ruined by the fight.
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dberry wrote:I'm talking about your typing/posting styleClivePatrickLyons wrote:dberry wrote: Wait, you are now trying to debate the mentally ill.
Listen I just said sorry to Canelo for bagging him for not fighting GGG and fighting Welterweight's who by the way are 2 weight division's below Middleweight's I was shocked when Team GGG came out with the same sh.t by fighting Kell Brook A welterweight who like Khan aint even the BEST Welterweight in the World so can you figger that for me or am I mentally ill if I keep listening to people like you I will be ...............Mentally Illbut while we're on the subject, if all my negotiations for the past several months had been scuppered and the promoter Id been dealing with offered me a in nine weeks for an absolute truck load of cash when it looked like I might not even get another opportunity this year then I'd fight a handicapped effing midget, I don't know about you. A career best payday and an opportunity to broaden the fanbase in another, boxing friendly country when getting another fight this year was looking bleak would be too good an opportunity to pass up, it's not like team Golovkin chased this fight, in fact, they're in the position they're in due to chasing legit middleweight title challenges/defences.
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Beauty's in the eye of the beholder... But, last four fights? Haven't those fights been against nobody, nobody, Dereck chisora and a wlad that looked sixty-five years old? I can't think my way into a headspace where I imagine fury beating Ali.Ian1973 wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:If Fury has reached his ceiling, then it is not high.Ian1973 wrote:
I did. I also noticed Ali being floored by Cooper who despite the adoration of the British public was never world class.
Fury in the fights you mentioned was a work in progress he isn't anymore.
Fury is still hugely under-rated. He's barely had a glove landed on him in his last four fights. His boxing has been beautiful. He may not be exciting and he doesn't excite but he is hugely efficient.
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Are you seriously saying you can't imagine Tyson 'Float like a Butterfly' Fury beating the limited Ali?squiggy wrote:
I can't think my way into a headspace where I imagine fury beating Ali.
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Float like a shopping trolley, sting like a midge.Riddick Blowe wrote:Are you seriously saying you can't imagine Tyson 'Float like a Butterfly' Fury beating the limited Ali?squiggy wrote:
I can't think my way into a headspace where I imagine fury beating Ali.
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Tyson 'The UnWieldy Deal' Furyjamesmcdonnell wrote:Float like a shopping trolley, sting like a midge.Riddick Blowe wrote:Are you seriously saying you can't imagine Tyson 'Float like a Butterfly' Fury beating the limited Ali?squiggy wrote:
I can't think my way into a headspace where I imagine fury beating Ali.
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Wow. You've managed to post the stupidest comment in a thread started by bnovelist. RespectIan1973 wrote: Does anyone seriously think Ali or Marciano or Tyson would beat the 6'9" Fury or Wilder? They would be way too small and with todays advanced training methods etc they would have next to no chance.
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I keep preaching to you guys that Kell Brook is elite level...in that realm with Floyd, Thurman, & Ward but will have home turf advantage spells
bad news for GGG he will take a beating!
bad news for GGG he will take a beating!
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Why do you think Thurman never calls out Brook? Thurman is very very smart he knows Brook is a daunting task and the fight would do better
financially in London....Thurman is smart! Thurman will be undefeated for years to come! Brook will beat up GGG! GGG made a mistake cherry
picking Kell Brook!
financially in London....Thurman is smart! Thurman will be undefeated for years to come! Brook will beat up GGG! GGG made a mistake cherry
picking Kell Brook!
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I agree that Brook is elite, though like most I'm picking GGG to win. To say that GGG cherry picked Brooks is silly though, when you look at all the details.bnovelist wrote:Why do you think Thurman never calls out Brook? Thurman is very very smart he knows Brook is a daunting task and the fight would do better
financially in London....Thurman is smart! Thurman will be undefeated for years to come! Brook will beat up GGG! GGG made a mistake cherry
picking Kell Brook!
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You know that you replied to the forum troll, do you?jezzamundo wrote:I agree that Brook is elite, though like most I'm picking GGG to win. To say that GGG cherry picked Brooks is silly though, when you look at all the details.bnovelist wrote:Why do you think Thurman never calls out Brook? Thurman is very very smart he knows Brook is a daunting task and the fight would do better
financially in London....Thurman is smart! Thurman will be undefeated for years to come! Brook will beat up GGG! GGG made a mistake cherry
picking Kell Brook!
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Yes, bnovelist is nothing if not honest and entertaining.boxing_rocks wrote:You know that you replied to the forum troll, do you?jezzamundo wrote:I agree that Brook is elite, though like most I'm picking GGG to win. To say that GGG cherry picked Brooks is silly though, when you look at all the details.bnovelist wrote:Why do you think Thurman never calls out Brook? Thurman is very very smart he knows Brook is a daunting task and the fight would do better
financially in London....Thurman is smart! Thurman will be undefeated for years to come! Brook will beat up GGG! GGG made a mistake cherry
picking Kell Brook!
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Brook will dance circles busting up GGG's face dont say I didn't warn you! This will be the last of this version of GGG you guys will be seeing I see
another Calzaghe/Jeff Lacy type of deal. Remember how Calzaghe was the underdog? Remember how Hatton was the underdog against Kosta?
I'm telling you man that ruckus crowd in London helps alot. GGG is out of his realm for this one!
another Calzaghe/Jeff Lacy type of deal. Remember how Calzaghe was the underdog? Remember how Hatton was the underdog against Kosta?
I'm telling you man that ruckus crowd in London helps alot. GGG is out of his realm for this one!
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I'd consult with a local mental health practitioner if I were you. You need help.bnovelist wrote:Brook will dance circles busting up GGG's face dont say I didn't warn you! This will be the last of this version of GGG you guys will be seeing I see
another Calzaghe/Jeff Lacy type of deal. Remember how Calzaghe was the underdog? Remember how Hatton was the underdog against Kosta?
I'm telling you man that ruckus crowd in London helps alot. GGG is out of his realm for this one!
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I'd consult with a local mental health practitioner if I were you. You need help.[/quotejamesmcdonnell wrote:bnovelist wrote:Brook will dance circles busting up GGG's face dont say I didn't warn you! This will be the last of this version of GGG you guys will be seeing I see
another Calzaghe/Jeff Lacy type of deal. Remember how Calzaghe was the underdog? Remember how Hatton was the underdog against Kosta?
I'm telling you man that ruckus crowd in London helps alot. GGG is out of his realm for this one!
to me it sounds like bnov gets a little more than a kick out of writing these silly things. disturbing. yes get help dude.
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..I'm pretty sure he's sitting in one of those pubs right now drinking beer at the expense of his buddies, having a good laugh reading the comments and bragging how easy it is to wind up the boxrec posters...right, bnov?Butterbean wrote: to me it sounds like bnov gets a little more than a kick out of writing these silly things. disturbing. yes get help dude.
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Badhusker wrote:You must be on your knees with/for one of the mods here to allow them to put up with with the pathetic trolling you do here. You are the most pathetic troll I have ever seen.bnovelist wrote:He will never be the same after that fight in london its going to be another Hatton/Tszu & Calzaghe/Lacy type of beating. Then Canelo will finish
him off in 2017
Bit harsh !
6.5/10 harmless satire for me. Not
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