Wilder

[lefty]

You expect a top 40 boxer to sit on his chair during the break and just give up the fight when he hears his opponend is injured? Like Arreola and his team did? TBH I even think even Wach would have won against Wilder if he was in the ring instead of Arreola.

Your irrational hatred of Wilder clouds your objectivity.

You think Wach would have given up? And just would have given the victory to Wilder?

Are you talking about the same Wach who in his last fight only just beat Nascimento? That Wach would have beaten Wilder?

[asdfjkl]

Your irrational hatred of Wilder clouds your objectivity.

You think Wach would have given up? And just would have given the victory to Wilder?

Are you talking about the same Wach who in his last fight only just beat Nascimento? That Wach would have beaten Wilder?

Yup, that Wach.

[lefty]

Exactly. Totally irrational when it comes to Wilder.

[Impractical Poster]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

[SFW]

I think Wilder's vulnerability and recklessness are part of his charm, guy is a top Heavyweight no matter what the riff raff say.

[crusader]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

You think he'll be put in with another soft opponent for his comeback fight next year? Maybe Travis Kauffman, the guy many had beating his last opponent? Could we at least get Bryant Jennings, who had an easier time with Szpilka than Deontay did, dropped him twice, and even knocked him out despite being a light hitter? Would faded Dereck Chisora, who knocked out Scott a few months before Wilder did, be too good?

[MachoTime]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

Real Deal Holyfield type???

[Mr Icaman]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

When he beats some one half good then we might think he is the "real deal".. Until he starts fighting guys who are considered worthy of title shot then he can be considered nothing more than a protected boxer...

[carpetman]

Tex Cobb would have murdered him in a fifteen rounder! Broken hands , arms, shoulders , everything would have been busted . He is a very fragile heavy weight , must be juisen.

[Impractical Poster]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

By now, you all should recognize that my guarantees are legitimate. It is all you need at this point. It will all unfold within the next couple years.

[boxing_rocks]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

By now, you all should recognize that my guarantees are legitimate. It is all you need at this point. It will all unfold within the next couple years.

Based on what? Beating a few B-/C level opponents and not even looking that well while doing that?

[Impractical Poster]

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

By now, you all should recognize that my guarantees are legitimate. It is all you need at this point. It will all unfold within the next couple years.

Based on what? Beating a few B-/C level opponents and not even looking that well while doing that?

No... based on my guarantees being guaranteed.

[boxing_rocks]

By now, you all should recognize that my guarantees are legitimate. It is all you need at this point. It will all unfold within the next couple years.

Based on what? Beating a few B-/C level opponents and not even looking that well while doing that?

No... based on my guarantees being guaranteed.

Can we have some monetary guarantees from you which we would keep after Wilder is destroyed by a top opponent?

[Larrylefthook]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

You think he'll be put in with another soft opponent for his comeback fight next year? Maybe Travis Kauffman, the guy many had beating his last opponent? Could we at least get Bryant Jennings, who had an easier time with Szpilka than Deontay did, dropped him twice, and even knocked him out despite being a light hitter? Would faded Dereck Chisora, who knocked out Scott a few months before Wilder did, be too good?

Seems like some of the people who shit on GGG's level of competition give Wilder a pass even though GGG has faced the better opposition, add to that Wilder has world class boxers desperate to fight him while GGG has elite boxers running from him, clear double standard's...

[Impractical Poster]

Wilder's the real deal. You all still gunna hate him once he unifies too.

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

You think he'll be put in with another soft opponent for his comeback fight next year? Maybe Travis Kauffman, the guy many had beating his last opponent? Could we at least get Bryant Jennings, who had an easier time with Szpilka than Deontay did, dropped him twice, and even knocked him out despite being a light hitter? Would faded Dereck Chisora, who knocked out Scott a few months before Wilder did, be too good?

Seems like some of the people who poo on GGG's level of competition give Wilder a pass even though GGG has faced the better opposition, add to that Wilder has world class boxers desperate to fight him while GGG has elite boxers running from him, clear double standard's...

Who's crapping on G's competition?

[boxing_rocks]

Well hopefully we get to see him unify, rather than you just making guarantees about what he'll accomplish.

You think he'll be put in with another soft opponent for his comeback fight next year? Maybe Travis Kauffman, the guy many had beating his last opponent? Could we at least get Bryant Jennings, who had an easier time with Szpilka than Deontay did, dropped him twice, and even knocked him out despite being a light hitter? Would faded Dereck Chisora, who knocked out Scott a few months before Wilder did, be too good?

Seems like some of the people who poo on GGG's level of competition give Wilder a pass even though GGG has faced the better opposition, add to that Wilder has world class boxers desperate to fight him while GGG has elite boxers running from him, clear double standard's...

Who's crapping on G's competition?

Demographic

[Like a Boss]

I think Wilder's vulnerability and recklessness are part of his charm, guy is a top Heavyweight no matter what the riff raff say.

[crusader]

I just want him to fight someone interesting. Not one top ten opponent since winning the title and his soft touches are starting to get boring to me now. Presumably he'll need another mediocre opponent for his 2017 comeback as well.

He's crude, but the power is there and he's got some pretty fast hands to go with it. Along with his reach, jab (which is good when he uses it), and ability to close strong deep into fights, I think he's very dangerous for everyone, so it's frustrating to see him fixed at a level of opposition where his best challenger is arguably someone who was outclassed, dropped twice, and stopped by relatively light hitting Bryant Jennings.

[Impractical Poster]

Well, he didn't make Povetkin fail a drug test. Dude was going to Russia to fight him FFS.

[crusader]

So what? Sure, the ordeal wasn't his fault, but he didn't fight Povetkin, and instead he fought a guy barely in the top 50.

Whatever the reasons for his matchmaking, his reign as champion has been boring and he's yet to face a legitimate top ten challenger, unless you want to really stretch and act like the guy who got clowned by Jennings a few bouts before was a meaningful opponent.

[Impractical Poster]

On a serious note, I think Wilder is a very talented tall athlete who is still learning. He has shown heart and a willingness to learn the fundamentals of his craft understanding that he needs improvement. That being said, it bothers me the way he leaned his head up in the air while backing straight back to avoid shots. He's been able to get away with it,for the most part so far, because his athleticism and length allow him so thus far. But against the likes of Fury and Joshua, this will lead to potential disaster. I'd like to see it rectified before this, but we'll see.

I honestly don't think Deontay is technically the best heavy in the division. But I do believe he has a real chance at unifying because of what he does bring to the table.

Wilder gets a bad rap by the majority on here and I feel it's unjust.

[Impractical Poster]

So what? Sure, the ordeal wasn't his fault, but he didn't fight Povetkin, and instead he fought a guy barely in the top 50.

Whatever the reasons for his matchmaking, his reign as champion has been boring and he's yet to face a legitimate top ten challenger, unless you want to really stretch and act like the guy who got clowned by Jennings a few bouts before was a meaningful opponent.

But, he was going to. People give him crap for not facing anyone. Then he tries to make a title defense against a top heavy in foreign territory, the fight gets scratched. Now he's still at fault. The fight was set. Who else was on the table for Deontay to fight on short notice? Sure, he could have just sat around til another viable contender became available... Or he could make bank against a well known heavy and stay active.

[crusader]

I'm not saying he's at fault for anything, just that his title reign has consisted of uninspiring matches with soft opponents who didn't deserve to be in the top 10, or in some cases the top 20 or 30 (despite all this talk about how much more exciting the HW division is now).

I'm assuming he's going to be matched with a soft comeback opponent too. Maybe the best we can hope for is Glazkov, since Deontay seems to have a thing for fighting challengers who got most of their limited credibility from beating old, faded Adamek. I suppose Glazkov may be a hard sell given what happened in his last fight, but then again Szpilka getting totally outclassed, beaten up, and stopped by Jennings didn't prevent him from getting a shot.

Hopefully the injuries heal, he shakes off any accumulated ring rust, and fights a top opponent soon after that. I'd give him a realistic shot of beating Fury and unifying, like you promise, but I'm not exactly confident that we'll see him up at that level in the near future. Keep in mind that he was mandated to take the Povetkin fight, and was getting offered an abnormally large purse for it.

[boxing_rocks]

I'm not saying he's at fault for anything, just that his title reign has consisted of uninspiring matches with soft opponents who didn't deserve to be in the top 10, or in some cases the top 20 or 30 (despite all this talk about how much more exciting the HW division is now).

Yeah, it is all Haymon's fault, and Wilder is just an innocent baby not having any say in who he fights.

[Kalan]

Arreola hasn't been a credible contender for a while, and he was honest enough to admit that he didn't deserve a title shot.

Last five fights: knocked out by Stiverne, life and death with a clubfighter, draw against a journeyman that most had him losing, dropped in a very close, disputed win (overturned due to drug use) over C level Travis Kauffman, one-sided stoppage loss to Wilder.

I'm not even sure if he's one of the best 50 fighters in the division anymore, but watch him somehow get another title shot for doing pretty much nothing.

Mexican WBC gave a payday to mexican boxer. Simple as that...

I doubt that Mexican boxing administrators give a rat's arse about giving paydays to Mexican boxers, any more than US boxing administrators care about US boxers. Boxing administrators of whatever nationality are only focused on giving paydays to themselves.

They're focused on relationships and financial quid pro quo... They kept the WBC Title away from Golovkin for 6 years... even though he was the mandatory for Martinez... Cotto... and Canyelo