Anthony Mundine says he's deep in negotiations over a rematch with Danny Green

[DA GOOSE]

Can bring up a 100 fighters in the last 100 years ,who gave away weight it does;nt alter the fact that this is a nonsence retirement fight for 2 aging boxers ,, I would love to see Mundine smash him , Mundine put his balls on the line many a time .. Green well he's spent his whole carreer fighting mismatches and danny weight

I give Green his dues for his career pre first retirement Lucas,Beyer 1, and come on mate Mundine fought Lester Ellis. It's only since he won the IBO CW title that the Dannyweight rubbish started. He promised his fans Hopkins,Adamek,Haye and delivered rubbish. I would like to see Mundine beat him too(Mundine is the lesser of 2 Richard heads ) but I doubt it.

Delivered rubbish you say?

Antonio Tarver and Krzysztof Wlodarczyk in particular, were, and remain, class opponents.

Wlodarczyk was 45-2-1 and the WBC champion when he met Green. He then made 3 more successful defences after Green. Before falling to Grigory Drozd, the best cruiserweight in the world. Wlodarczyk's record stands at an outstanding 51-3-1.

Antonio Tarver has quite simply been an ATG of the sport. His record includes 2 wins against a very good version of Roy Jones just for starters. Tarver was 28-6 when he met Green, and those losses were to huge name opponents because the guy walked the walk and fought the very best. Tarver hasn't lost since fighting Green and most recently beat the 29-2-1 Johnathon Banks and drew Steve USS Cunningham.

These guys aren't rubbish. But your post certainly was

Tarver was semi retired(3 fights in 3 years lost 2 of those last KO 4 years previously at LHW) admittedly the 2losses were to Chad Dawson and Wlod was coming off a gift decision and suicide attempt.
Suicide attempt.

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Palacios robbery.

http://www.BS.com/palacios-i-w ... zyk--37791

http://www.BS.com/photos-krzys ... and--37731

http://www.secondsout.com/headlines/mai ... go-in-2013

Serious question did you watch any of Wlods previous fights before he fought Green?

[Like a Boss]

I give Green his dues for his career pre first retirement Lucas,Beyer 1, and come on mate Mundine fought Lester Ellis. It's only since he won the IBO CW title that the Dannyweight rubbish started. He promised his fans Hopkins,Adamek,Haye and delivered rubbish. I would like to see Mundine beat him too(Mundine is the lesser of 2 Richard heads ) but I doubt it.

Delivered rubbish you say?

Antonio Tarver and Krzysztof Wlodarczyk in particular, were, and remain, class opponents.

Wlodarczyk was 45-2-1 and the WBC champion when he met Green. He then made 3 more successful defences after Green. Before falling to Grigory Drozd, the best cruiserweight in the world. Wlodarczyk's record stands at an outstanding 51-3-1.

Antonio Tarver has quite simply been an ATG of the sport. His record includes 2 wins against a very good version of Roy Jones just for starters. Tarver was 28-6 when he met Green, and those losses were to huge name opponents because the guy walked the walk and fought the very best. Tarver hasn't lost since fighting Green and most recently beat the 29-2-1 Johnathon Banks and drew Steve USS Cunningham.

These guys aren't rubbish. But your post certainly was

Tarver was semi retired(3 fights in 3 years lost 2 of those last KO 4 years previously at LHW) admittedly the 2losses were to Chad Dawson and Wlod was coming off a gift decision and suicide attempt.
Suicide attempt.

https://translate.google.com.au/transla ... rev=search

Palacios robbery.

http://www.BS.com/palacios-i-w ... zyk--37791

http://www.BS.com/photos-krzys ... and--37731

Serious question did you watch any of Wlods previous fights before he fought Green?

Boxers over the years have had all manner of problems outside the ring. Some of the highest ring achievers in history were hit-men, murderers, wife-beaters, common criminals or had suicidal tendencies. Some champions ultimately did manage to kill themselves.

More common is the fighter who becomes inactive for whatever reason, or the fighter who retires and then comes back. Some made successful comebacks. Many others didn't.

But the measure of a fighter is what he does in the ring, and Tarver and Wlodarczyk's records speak for themselves.

As previously stated, both Antonio Tarver and Krzysztof Wlodarczyk were class boxers and both have fine records. Anyone who follows boxing knows that. It simply isn't in dispute.

The southpaw Tarver was just plain too classy for Green, as he has proven to be for many fighters way better than Green over the years. The guy is still a very formidable opponent, as his recent performances against Johnathon Banks and Steve USS Cunningham show.

The Wlodarczyk-Green fight was a great contest and highly entertaining. Wlod's career record of 51-3-1 speaks for itself.

Both proved too good for Green. Enough said.

[Like a Boss]

The subject of the thread is a Mundine vs Green rematch. Not a smear campaign of them or their previous opponents.

Let's try and discuss the potential rematch. Not revisit the same old regurgitated crud that has clogged threads for years and years, and everyone is so sick and tired of hearing

[bogan whisperer]

At the risk of posting on topic, I think this fight will happen and probably in January next year.

Why? Because there is simply too much money to be made for it not to happen, and the quotes coming out of both camps now seem to be confirming the fight will happen. Even the weight limit seems to have been agreed on.

In business there is a saying, "follow the money trail', and the money trail leads straight to a rematch.

So regardless of all the perceived hurdles, I think the camps will come to agreement sometime soon and in late January, whether people like it or not, amid much trash talking from both camps, there will be a rematch.

[AntonS]

There are rules regarding weight difference.

Is there.........................who enforce it the weight rule.

Each Commission/Authority e.g. view Victoria's 4. Weigh-in Item 4.5 http://sport.vic.gov.au/sites/default/f ... pdated.pdf

[Like a Boss]

There are rules regarding weight difference.

Is there.........................who enforce it the weight rule.

Each Commission/Authority e.g. view Victoria's 4. Weigh-in Item 4.5 http://sport.vic.gov.au/sites/default/f ... pdated.pdf

Nice work

First observation is they are Victorian rules for contests held in Victoria.

If the Green vs Mundine rematch were to be held in Victoria they would apply. But I'm guessing, in true boxing form the rules elsewhere are probably different. Please tell me I am wrong.

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Applying what is written in the Professional Boxing and Combat Sports Board of Victoria's "Rules For Proper Conduct" to likely weights that might apply in a Mundine vs Green rematch I come up with the following :

If the agreed maximum weight was 83kg and Green came in at 83kg, Mundine could come in no less than 77kg.
That is because the maximum difference between their weights with Mundine less than 79.38kg, is 6 kilograms.

Alternatively, if Mundine came in above 79.38kg, Green could weigh up to a maximum 8 kilograms higher than him.
So with Mundine at 79.38kg for instance, Green could weigh up to 87.38kg.

[AntonS]

Applying what is written in the Professional Boxing and Combat Sports Board of Victoria's "Rules For Proper Conduct" to likely weights that might apply in a Mundine vs Green rematch I come up with the following :

If the agreed maximum weight was 83kg and Green came in at 83kg, Mundine could come in no less than 77kg.
That is because the maximum difference between their weights with Mundine less than 79.38kg, is 6 kilograms.

Alternatively, if Mundine came in above 79.38kg, Green could weigh up to a maximum 8 kilograms higher than him.
So with Mundine at 79.38kg for instance, Green could weigh up to 87.38kg.

Correct

[Like a Boss]

Applying what is written in the Professional Boxing and Combat Sports Board of Victoria's "Rules For Proper Conduct" to likely weights that might apply in a Mundine vs Green rematch I come up with the following :

If the agreed maximum weight was 83kg and Green came in at 83kg, Mundine could come in no less than 77kg.
That is because the maximum difference between their weights with Mundine less than 79.38kg, is 6 kilograms.

Alternatively, if Mundine came in above 79.38kg, Green could weigh up to a maximum 8 kilograms higher than him.
So with Mundine at 79.38kg for instance, Green could weigh up to 87.38kg.

Correct

What about the validity and consistency of the rules state-to-state???

As soon as I read : "The scales for weigh ins are to be provided by the Board" I could straight away see these Victorian rules varied to Queensland's.

That is on the assumption Queensland actually have rules of course, and perhaps that in itself is assuming too much

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Those rules, assuming the fight is held in Victoria or somewhere with similar rules, put pay to any idea there will be more than 10kg between Green and Mundine on the scales.

The maximum difference between them on the scales will likely be 6kg maximum.

I can't see weight getting in the way of the fight happening though. They will find a way to make this thing happen.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Boxing commissions were set up to protect fighter's from them self and to regulate people like Team Danny Green

Correct , It just does'nt happen enough , and especielly in Aust , where they will let anything slip for a couple of 3 tickets and a few hundred bucks for a nights work

[DA GOOSE]

But there was a much bigger weight difference between RJJ and Ruiz than that can't they just fight at whatever they want if both parties agree with it?

[ClivePatrickLyons]

There are rules regarding weight difference.

Is there.........................who enforce it the weight rule.

Each Commission/Authority e.g. view Victoria's 4. Weigh-in Item 4.5 http://sport.vic.gov.au/sites/default/f ... pdated.pdf

Mundine has said he will come in at about 78 kg's so that means Green cannot come in any heavier than 84 kg's if the fight is in Victoria does Team Mundine realise this because they keep mentioning 10 kg's difference it might not sound like much but 4 kilo's could make or break

[ClivePatrickLyons]

But there was a much bigger weight difference between RJJ and Ruiz than that can't they just fight at whatever they want if both parties agree with it?

Ok as long as the winner gets Billy Dib

[Like a Boss]

Is there.........................who enforce it the weight rule.

Each Commission/Authority e.g. view Victoria's 4. Weigh-in Item 4.5 http://sport.vic.gov.au/sites/default/f ... pdated.pdf

Mundine has said he will come in at about 78 kg's so that means Green cannot come in any heavier than 84 kg's if the fight is in Victoria does Team Mundine realise this because they keep mentioning 10 kg's difference it might not sound like much but 4 kilo's could make or break

The talk in the media is that an 83kg limit has been agreed to.

So if Green comes in at 83kg, Mundine could come in anywhere between 77kg and 83kg.

So under the Victorian rules at least, the maximum difference between their weights on the scales could be 6kg.

The 10kg talk is just bluff and bravado from the Mundine camp. We'll get plenty of that in the months to come.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Each Commission/Authority e.g. view Victoria's 4. Weigh-in Item 4.5 http://sport.vic.gov.au/sites/default/f ... pdated.pdf

Mundine has said he will come in at about 78 kg's so that means Green cannot come in any heavier than 84 kg's if the fight is in Victoria does Team Mundine realise this because they keep mentioning 10 kg's difference it might not sound like much but 4 kilo's could make or break

The talk in the media is that an 83kg limit has been agreed to.

So if Green comes in at 83kg, Mundine could come in anywhere between 77kg and 83kg.

So the maximum difference between their weights on the scales would be 6kg.

The 10kg talk is just bluff and bravado from the Mundine camp. We'll get plenty of that in the months to come.

And whats the BIG boy Greeny gonna be doing in the month's to come.

[Like a Boss]

Mundine has said he will come in at about 78 kg's so that means Green cannot come in any heavier than 84 kg's if the fight is in Victoria does Team Mundine realise this because they keep mentioning 10 kg's difference it might not sound like much but 4 kilo's could make or break

The talk in the media is that an 83kg limit has been agreed to.

So if Green comes in at 83kg, Mundine could come in anywhere between 77kg and 83kg.

So the maximum difference between their weights on the scales would be 6kg.

The 10kg talk is just bluff and bravado from the Mundine camp. We'll get plenty of that in the months to come.

And whats the BIG boy Greeny gonna be doing in the month's to come.

The propaganda machines of teams Green and Mundine will be operating overtime no doubt.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

The talk in the media is that an 83kg limit has been agreed to.

So if Green comes in at 83kg, Mundine could come in anywhere between 77kg and 83kg.

So the maximum difference between their weights on the scales would be 6kg.

The 10kg talk is just bluff and bravado from the Mundine camp. We'll get plenty of that in the months to come.

And whats the BIG boy Greeny gonna be doing in the month's to come.

The propaganda machines of teams Green and Mundine will be operating overtime no doubt.

God help us

[Like a Boss]

And whats the BIG boy Greeny gonna be doing in the month's to come.

The propaganda machines of teams Green and Mundine will be operating overtime no doubt.

God help us

Perhaps the best result for our ongoing sanity would be a Kane Watts win. That might put pay to the 'big dance'

[bogan whisperer]

But there was a much bigger weight difference between RJJ and Ruiz than that can't they just fight at whatever they want if both parties agree with it?

Those are Victorian rules and obviously don't apply in the US and besides that Jones and Ruiz fought at heavyweight which is open weight limit.

In response to your second question. What would be the point of having rules if people could just choose to ignore them?

[DA GOOSE]

But there was a much bigger weight difference between RJJ and Ruiz than that can't they just fight at whatever they want if both parties agree with it?

Those are Victorian rules and obviously don't apply in the US and besides that Jones and Ruiz fought at heavyweight which is open weight limit.

In response to your second question. What would be the point of having rules if people could just choose to ignore them?

Fair enough.

[Like a Boss]

Green says Melbourne is the frontrunner for a rematch with Mundine :

http://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/dann ... ac574185c2

“I would say that Melbourne would definitely be a frontrunner. If I wasn’t so established in Perth and my family and friends are there, I would be living here in this city.”

“The rematch is not just my itch, mate, the public wants it scratched, too,” Green said after putting himself through another torrid session at Doherty’s Gym in Flinders Street this week.

“It is getting very, very close now.

“When you are a prizefighter, you get paid for the biggest prize. And this is the biggest prize by far.”

“I don’t know whether 10 years makes it bigger or smaller, but not a day goes by without someone asking me about a rematch — it happens every single day.”

[GhostBoxing15]

Green says Melbourne is the frontrunner for a rematch with Mundine :

http://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/dann ... ac574185c2

“I would say that Melbourne would definitely be a frontrunner. If I wasn’t so established in Perth and my family and friends are there, I would be living here in this city.”

“The rematch is not just my itch, mate, the public wants it scratched, too,” Green said after putting himself through another torrid session at Doherty’s Gym in Flinders Street this week.

“It is getting very, very close now.

“When you are a prizefighter, you get paid for the biggest prize. And this is the biggest prize by far.
“I don’t know whether 10 years makes it bigger or smaller, but not a day goes by without someone asking me about a rematch — it happens every single day.”

Green is a dribbler, The fight will be under Mundines promoter Big Time Boxing, that determines it will be in Melbourne, not Green

[Like a Boss]

Green says Melbourne is the frontrunner for a rematch with Mundine :

http://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/dann ... ac574185c2

“I would say that Melbourne would definitely be a frontrunner. If I wasn’t so established in Perth and my family and friends are there, I would be living here in this city.”

“The rematch is not just my itch, mate, the public wants it scratched, too,” Green said after putting himself through another torrid session at Doherty’s Gym in Flinders Street this week.

“It is getting very, very close now.

“When you are a prizefighter, you get paid for the biggest prize. And this is the biggest prize by far.
“I don’t know whether 10 years makes it bigger or smaller, but not a day goes by without someone asking me about a rematch — it happens every single day.”

Green is a dribbler, The fight will be under Mundines promoter Big Time Boxing, that determines it will be in Melbourne, not Green

Green is one half of the biggest $$$ fight in Australian boxing history. His fight with Roy Jones Jnr was also a top four $$$ fight in Australian boxing history. Green will also be one half of another huge $$$ earner when, as seems likely, he fights Mundine again early next year.

Green is the one doing the negotiating. Not you. So pardon me if I'll believe his dribble over yours.

[Like a Boss]

Green says Melbourne is the frontrunner. Mundine says Uluru.

You don't even need to follow boxing to know which one sounds more like dribble