Watched many of Joshua's fights.

[BoxBuzz]

I'm impressed, I agree with Kalan that he has the most potential of any HW in the field at this time. If he's got a chin, he just may deliver some good times to the HW division. My questions for the moment would be, has he felt what it's like to be in trouble? I couldn't find a time where he had to dig deep. That's going to be what decides his future.


I'll be interested to see how the Klitschko, Fury, Wilder Joshua round robins play out. He's not the tallest fella in the mix.
But I would say he's poised and confident thus far. Doesn't lose his cool and focuses on the task at hand. His fundamentals are impressive as well.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Whyte hurt him in the second round. I doubt Fury would last that long with him.

[Rob3_142]

Yeah but this isn't something which hasn't already been alluded to.

He's still only 18 fights into his pro career, so he's still fighting the right kind of guys. However because of his progress he's definitely going to be meeting the guys like Haye and Wilder sooner rather than later. The jury is still out if Fury will fight ever again, let alone against Joshua. I think Parker will be his first proper fight where there's potential for it to either go the distance or even be beaten.

He's still yet to be nobbled by someone on the chin, so it'll just be a case of when that happens. Against the likes of Haye and Wilder, it will happen, and then we'll find out a lot about our man.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He got drilled by Whyte. Came through it strong.

[Rob3_142]

One punch in 18 fights. Tells us absolutely nothing. Breazeale got drilled a whole bunch of times v Joshua but was still in there. Joshua has to be under severe pressure to justify any chin.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

One punch in 18 fights. Tells us absolutely nothing. Breazeale got drilled a whole bunch of times v Joshua but was still in there. Joshua has to be under severe pressure to justify any chin.

You said he was never caught flush on the chin, you were wrong.

[hhaehre]

One punch in 18 fights. Tells us absolutely nothing. Breazeale got drilled a whole bunch of times v Joshua but was still in there. Joshua has to be under severe pressure to justify any chin.

I think Whyte caught him with several good punches in that round, rattled him a little and Joshua looked tired too. Joshua did however regroup between rounds and finished strong.

[Kalan]

I'm impressed, I agree with Kalan that he has the most potential of any HW in the field at this time. If he's got a chin, he just may deliver some good times to the HW division. My questions for the moment would be, has he felt what it's like to be in trouble? I couldn't find a time where he had to dig deep. That's going to be what decides his future.


I'll be interested to see how the Klitschko, Fury, Wilder Joshua round robins play out. He's not the tallest fella in the mix.
But I would say he's poised and confident thus far. Doesn't lose his cool and focuses on the task at hand. His fundamentals are impressive as well.

If you're a Heavyweight Champion and never had to dig deep??? ... More power to your... AJ was digging pretty hard in the 7th round versus Whyte.. He stayed on him like glue and got the KO win in brutal fashion.. Not exactly your Ali-Evangelista, Lewis-Mavrovic, or Klitschko-Povetkin fights.

[Kalan]

To say nothing about Tyson-Tucker... Did you watch that all the way through??? ... Gee whiz, nothing dynamite landing in those fights.

[hhaehre]

I'm impressed, I agree with Kalan that he has the most potential of any HW in the field at this time. If he's got a chin, he just may deliver some good times to the HW division. My questions for the moment would be, has he felt what it's like to be in trouble? I couldn't find a time where he had to dig deep. That's going to be what decides his future.


I'll be interested to see how the Klitschko, Fury, Wilder Joshua round robins play out. He's not the tallest fella in the mix.
But I would say he's poised and confident thus far. Doesn't lose his cool and focuses on the task at hand. His fundamentals are impressive as well.

If you're a Heavyweight Champion and never had to dig deep??? ... More power to your... AJ was digging pretty hard in the 7th round versus Whyte.. He stayed on him like glue and got the KO win in brutal fashion.. Not exactly your Ali-Evangelista, Lewis-Mavrovic, or Klitschko-Povetkin fights.

Not exactly Ali-Frazier or Holyfield-Bowe either was it? When the "epic" Whyte fight is all you have I suggest you come back at a later stage when (or if) Joshua have taken part in a memorable fight.

[Kalan]

Actually it was a lot better... Ali and Frazier lacked defensive finesse and got hit with everything.. It was an interesting brawl, but not a display of skills.

Holyfield was a better defender than Ali or Frazier.. but he still got caught with a lot of winging shots from a very sloppy punching Bowe.

Joshua has a more precision style.. He beat Whyte up without being tagged by a lot of incoming.. Then he iced the braggart.. Whyte took on the undefeated Dave Allen this last weekend and won every round going away -- so he's 18-1 with the Joshua fight being his only loss.

[BitPlayer]

Actually it was a lot better... Ali and Frazier lacked defensive finesse and got hit with everything.. It was an interesting brawl, but not a display of skills.

Holyfield was a better defender than Ali or Frazier.. but he still got caught with a lot of winging shots from a very sloppy punching Bowe.

Joshua has a more precision style.. He beat Whyte up without being tagged by a lot of incoming.. Then he iced the braggart.. Whyte took on the undefeated Dave Allen this last weekend and won every round going away -- so he's 18-1 with the Joshua fight being his only loss.

Is Whyte comparible to Bowe now?

[Kalan]

Who do you think would do better versus Andrew Golota---a very hittable Heavyweight who a lot of Heavies knocked out very quickly---Whyte or Bowe?

Answer with some thought please, and not a kneejerk response.

[Rob3_142]

Actually it was a lot better... Ali and Frazier lacked defensive finesse and got hit with everything.. It was an interesting brawl, but not a display of skills.

Holyfield was a better defender than Ali or Frazier.. but he still got caught with a lot of winging shots from a very sloppy punching Bowe.

Joshua has a more precision style.. He beat Whyte up without being tagged by a lot of incoming.. Then he iced the braggart.. Whyte took on the undefeated Dave Allen this last weekend and won every round going away -- so he's 18-1 with the Joshua fight being his only loss.

I think comparing Joshua's current performances to Ali and Frazier is a completely pointless exercise. Joshua has so far fought only under par opposition, and the fight against Whyte was a brawl. We still don't know how good Whyte is, and until either of them actually fight some world contenders, we don't know how good they are too.

Joshua has looked tidy against his opposition, and only been landed on properly once by Whyte, but these were against guys who were offensively limited, in my opinion.

[Kalan]

Actually it was a lot better... Ali and Frazier lacked defensive finesse and got hit with everything.. It was an interesting brawl, but not a display of skills.

Holyfield was a better defender than Ali or Frazier.. but he still got caught with a lot of winging shots from a very sloppy punching Bowe.

Joshua has a more precision style.. He beat Whyte up without being tagged by a lot of incoming.. Then he iced the braggart.. Whyte took on the undefeated Dave Allen this last weekend and won every round going away -- so he's 18-1 with the Joshua fight being his only loss.

I think comparing Joshua's current performances to Ali and Frazier is a completely pointless exercise. Joshua has so far fought only under par opposition, and the fight against Whyte was a brawl. We still don't know how good Whyte is, and until either of them actually fight some world contenders, we don't know how good they are too.

Joshua has looked tidy against his opposition, and only been landed on properly once by Whyte, but these were against guys who were offensively limited, in my opinion.

Joshua is tidy, you're correct... Foreman, Frazier, Ali, Lewis, Tyson, and Holyfield all had some sloppy outings where they got tagged up like crazy.

[Seamus]

Biggest flaw I've noticed with Joshua so far is that he has a tendency to occasionally drop his hands. That along with the fact that he fights pretty flat footed and doesn't show alot of head movement tells me his chin is going to get tested sooner or later.

[BitPlayer]

Who do you think would do better versus Andrew Golota---a very hittable Heavyweight who a lot of Heavies knocked out very quickly---Whyte or Bowe?

Answer with some thought please, and not a kneejerk response.

Lots knocked out quickly? No Lewis did, Grant knocked him out, but took 10 rounds, Brewster knocked him out but that was eight and a half years later, then he got knocked out in rounds 5 and 6, when he was in his 40's well over a decade later.

[littlepug]

as joshua hasnt fought anyone of note yet its hard to judge him, but if i had to bet my house on it i would say he will fall short of being a "great" heavyweight champ, theres just not enough fluidity in his work, also his lack of upper body and head movement along with flattish feet will let him down badly against a "natural" boxer with a bit of pop in his punches, but hey what do i know ? maybe Kalans right and josh is the second coming....

[Bodyshot3]

I'll be interested to see how the Klitschko, Fury, Wilder Joshua round robins play out. He's not the tallest fella in the mix.
But I would say he's poised and confident thus far. Doesn't lose his cool and focuses on the task at hand. His fundamentals are impressive as well.

It will be good to see this all unfold, notably if Wlad somehow finds a way to beat Fury or Tyson (sadly) finds a way to beat himself.
That would really shakes things up.

If Wlad surprises us by winning some belts again and is back on the block as an old, massively experienced champion who can still do the business I wonder how keen AJ and Wilder will be to fight him?

Especially as it would involve a trip to somewhere like Dortmund, Frankfurt or Hamburg and Wlad knows he can fight ugly in these places and has a notably reliable formula for getting results!

Watching Joshua go over to Germany and try to put in right on a rejuvinated Wlad - attempting to break the jab, hold, right hand routine - would be extremely interesting indeed and a proper test for AJ as well.

[Kalan]

Who do you think would do better versus Andrew Golota---a very hittable Heavyweight who a lot of Heavies knocked out very quickly---Whyte or Bowe?

Answer with some thought please, and not a kneejerk response.

Lots knocked out quickly? No Lewis did, Grant knocked him out, but took 10 rounds, Brewster knocked him out but that was eight and a half years later, then he got knocked out in rounds 5 and 6, when he was in his 40's well over a decade later.

Little Mike Tyson also blew Golota away...a 2 round blitz.. That's 3 heavyweights blowing AG away.. That's a lot cuz he fought very few good ones

[Seamus]

To paraphrase Ward Bond in his role as John L Sullivan in "Gentleman Jim", Joshua has had his chin tested by Dillian Whyte himself.

[Kalan]

Biggest flaw I've noticed with Joshua so far is that he has a tendency to occasionally drop his hands. That along with the fact that he fights pretty flat footed and doesn't show alot of head movement tells me his chin is going to get tested sooner or later.

Almost all top fighters dropped their hands -- Ali, Holmes, Lewis, Fury, Klitschko's etc.. AJ is NOT Flat footed. He has very quick feet and precise footwork.. People often describe aggressive, great punchers as slow footed and runners like Amir Khan as fleet footed.. If you're controlling the center of the ring and making your opponent run around the perimeter of the ring, it doesn’t mean you’re slower — unless you’re getting out-punched.. If you’re doing the majority of the scoring it means you’re faster, more efficient, more effective, and you’re setting the pace.

AJ gets under punches very well.. He has better head movement than Ali, Lewis, Wladimir, Louis, Patterson, Dempsey, Wilder -- and on a par with Haye, Tunney, Ortiz, Holmes, Johnson, Fury and the better boxing Heavyweights... and of course, he punches harder than any of those guys.

[Tuan_Jim]

Whyte better than Riddick Bowe now? You've got to be fcking kidding me.

Buzz, mods... do you want this to be an enjoyable forum? Or do you want it to be a place where every single thread is hijacked by our resident blathering braindead retard? There's never going to be reason, facts or perspective from him. Only relentless efforts at being annoying. The joke's over.

[littlepug]

Whyte better than Riddick Bowe now? You've got to be fcking kidding me.

Buzz, mods... do you want this to be an enjoyable forum? Or do you want it to be a place where every single thread is hijacked by our resident blathering braindead retard? There's never going to be reason, facts or perspective from him. Only relentless efforts at being annoying. The joke's over.

leave him alone, he is obviously a resident of a secure hospital somewhere and coming on here winding everyone up is probably part of his rehabilitation!!

[Kalan]

Whyte better than Riddick Bowe now? You've got to be fcking kidding me.

Buzz, mods... do you want this to be an enjoyable forum? Or do you want it to be a place where every single thread is hijacked by our resident blathering braindead retard? There's never going to be reason, facts or perspective from him. Only relentless efforts at being annoying. The joke's over.

Many of people thought Frazier was going to murder Foreman because he hadn't fought a top fighter... The folks who thought Foreman was going to crush him weren't residents of any facility that holds folks like you... You'll never see Dillian Whyte getting knocked down or punched around by somebody as slow and inept as Andrew Golota... That's GUARANTEED!!!