So will it be Skelton or Williams?

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 24 Feb 2006, 10:02

silkov wrote:Stupid not to have the British title up for grabs in this fight... just when it looks like we have a decent British heavyweight title fight the board in their wisdom decide on this course of action!... no wonder British boxing is in such a mess!... :x

who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title? It´s as unimportant like the German or the German International title though there are much better heavyweights like actually in Britain. It´s like the WBF- or the WBU-title. worth a shit.

Williams is over the hill. a loss against him is ridiculuos for a contender. the whole world would laugh about Skelton like Harrison. If Skelton should win he could come over and fight Sam to show how good he really is.

J · Post by J » 24 Feb 2006, 11:55

BubiScholz wrote:
silkov wrote:Stupid not to have the British title up for grabs in this fight... just when it looks like we have a decent British heavyweight title fight the board in their wisdom decide on this course of action!... no wonder British boxing is in such a mess!... :x
who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title? It´s as unimportant like the German or the German International title though there are much better heavyweights like actually in Britain. It´s like the WBF- or the WBU-title. worth a shit.

Williams is over the hill. a loss against him is ridiculuos for a contender. the whole world would laugh about Skelton like Harrison. If Skelton should win he could come over and fight Sam to show how good he really is.

excuse me? I dont mind your opinions but one suggests in a british forum DISCUSSING AN ALL BRITISH FIGHT that we do guive a fornicate about the british and commonweaLth title.

Thats a comment Id expect to see on the current scene hang your head in shame.

Stupid post.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 24 Feb 2006, 12:00

I'll be quite honest, the commonwealth title is a load of old bollocks, the British title is a matter of honour, but the commonwealth title is pretty meaningless.

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 24 Feb 2006, 15:17

As things go, it's a good match-up. The mecurial talent of Danny Williams versus the overnight sensation Matt Skelton. This will finally decide who the best in the UK is. We've wanted an answer now for some time about just how good Matt Skelton is. Tomorrow night we will definately find out.
Skelton's rapid rise through the British heavyweight ranks has caught everyone's eye. Stoppage wins over Michael Sprott and Keith Long are good results, and the Long win is better, as Danny didn't stop him.
Danny has mixed in better class, the Tyson win in July 2004 was a great win, but a fearsome beating by Vitali Klitschko in December of the same year seemed to show where Danny was in the scheme of things.
This is what's so interesting about Danny - Klitschko was the best of the bunch, and I'd be hard-pressed to find another heavyweight that would beat him, apart, maybe, from Hasim Rahman and, of course, Lennox Lewis. Thus, I still have a feeling that Danny has something left to offer in world-class, but as most of you probably feel, it's hard to see after the Harrison debacle. His mental state is a huge question mark as well - which DW will turn up?
Skelton is simply in the position of being unproven at top level. Can he handle a strong boxer like DW at his best?

Danny early or Matt late.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 24 Feb 2006, 16:23

BubiScholz wrote:
silkov wrote:Stupid not to have the British title up for grabs in this fight... just when it looks like we have a decent British heavyweight title fight the board in their wisdom decide on this course of action!... no wonder British boxing is in such a mess!... :x
who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title? It´s as unimportant like the German or the German International title though there are much better heavyweights like actually in Britain. It´s like the WBF- or the WBU-title. worth a shit.

Williams is over the hill. a loss against him is ridiculuos for a contender. the whole world would laugh about Skelton like Harrison. If Skelton should win he could come over and fight Sam to show how good he really is.

Just because you're German title isn't worth a smeg don't try and lump in the British title in the same way!... the British title has a long and honourable history in boxing, it is in mant ways second only to a true world championship.... if I was you I'd read up a bit on boxing history before you start comparing the British title with the tripe that passes for titles in Germany... who won the war anyway!!... 8)

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 24 Feb 2006, 16:26

who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title?

The fighters who spend years training and then win one?

The British Title is still very highly respected by UK fighters and fans alike.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 24 Feb 2006, 16:39

Hail thy British title.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 24 Feb 2006, 17:05

KOJOE90 wrote:
who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title?
The fighters who spend years training and then win one?

The British Title is still very highly respected by UK fighters and fans alike.

Its just ludicrous to compare the British and Commonwealth titles to any of the International or WBU etc titles...

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 24 Feb 2006, 17:09

Skelton wins.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 24 Feb 2006, 17:38

glahn wrote:Skelton wins.

I agree.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 25 Feb 2006, 14:24

Unless Matt walks onto one of Williams early Hail Marys, and he might, then it's Skelton for me.

Skelton TKO 10

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 25 Feb 2006, 14:37

Skelton TKO8

I see Danny having a good first round, but looking more and more plodding as the fight goes on, Skelton will be pressurising the whole fight, alot of wrestling and mauling, all the time Danny tiring from it and around the eighth Danny hitting the canvas a couple of times for the referee to intervene, maybe more from exhaustion than the power of the punches. He just doesn't seem fit at that weight, which is obvious to everyone except him.

Whatever it will be ugly, that i'm sure of.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 25 Feb 2006, 15:03

Just ran the bout on the Title Bout boxing simulator and according to that Skelton will have Williams down in the 1st and KO him in the second. Needless to say I won't be betting by this sim.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 25 Feb 2006, 15:40

Cannibal wrote:Just ran the bout on the Title Bout boxing simulator and according to that Skelton will have Williams down in the 1st and KO him in the second. Needless to say I won't be betting by this sim.

What is this Title Bout simulator??...

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 25 Feb 2006, 15:56

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/tb/

It's a computer program/game that list a lot of active and inactive fighters and lets you edit their attributes if you feel they are inaccurate and face them off against each other.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 25 Feb 2006, 17:49

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BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 27 Feb 2006, 05:22

J wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
silkov wrote:Stupid not to have the British title up for grabs in this fight... just when it looks like we have a decent British heavyweight title fight the board in their wisdom decide on this course of action!... no wonder British boxing is in such a mess!... :x
who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title? It´s as unimportant like the German or the German International title though there are much better heavyweights like actually in Britain. It´s like the WBF- or the WBU-title. worth a shit.

Williams is over the hill. a loss against him is ridiculuos for a contender. the whole world would laugh about Skelton like Harrison. If Skelton should win he could come over and fight Sam to show how good he really is.

excuse me? I dont mind your opinions but one suggests in a british forum DISCUSSING AN ALL BRITISH FIGHT that we do guive a smeg about the british and commonweaLth title.

Thats a comment Id expect to see on the current scene hang your head in shame.

Stupid post.

sorry, I didn´t want to offend any of you british guys. but actually these titles are meaningless in the rest of the world. not more, not less

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 27 Feb 2006, 05:24

silkov wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
silkov wrote:Stupid not to have the British title up for grabs in this fight... just when it looks like we have a decent British heavyweight title fight the board in their wisdom decide on this course of action!... no wonder British boxing is in such a mess!... :x
who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title? It´s as unimportant like the German or the German International title though there are much better heavyweights like actually in Britain. It´s like the WBF- or the WBU-title. worth a shit.

Williams is over the hill. a loss against him is ridiculuos for a contender. the whole world would laugh about Skelton like Harrison. If Skelton should win he could come over and fight Sam to show how good he really is.
Just because you're German title isn't worth a smeg don't try and lump in the British title in the same way!... the British title has a long and honourable history in boxing, it is in mant ways second only to a true world championship.... if I was you I'd read up a bit on boxing history before you start comparing the British title with the tripe that passes for titles in Germany... who won the war anyway!!... 8)

I don´t live in the past.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Feb 2006, 06:12

Just as well mate, you'd probably be on the Russian front right now freezing to death....

J · Post by J » 27 Feb 2006, 07:30

BubiScholz wrote:
J wrote:
BubiScholz wrote: who cares about the British and/or the Commonwealth heavyweight title? It´s as unimportant like the German or the German International title though there are much better heavyweights like actually in Britain. It´s like the WBF- or the WBU-title. worth a shit.

Williams is over the hill. a loss against him is ridiculuos for a contender. the whole world would laugh about Skelton like Harrison. If Skelton should win he could come over and fight Sam to show how good he really is.

excuse me? I dont mind your opinions but one suggests in a british forum DISCUSSING AN ALL BRITISH FIGHT that we do guive a smeg about the british and commonweaLth title.

Thats a comment Id expect to see on the current scene hang your head in shame.

Stupid post.
sorry, I didn´t want to offend any of you british guys. but actually these titles are meaningless in the rest of the world. not more, not less

NO WORRIES DUDE THOUGHT IT WAS A BIT UNLIKE YOU.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 27 Feb 2006, 07:48

J, it´s just a fact that actually the Biritish heavyweight scene is beyond the rest of Europe. It is hard for you guys to realise after the best british heavy generation (Lewis,Hide,Bruno) retired.......

J · Post by J » 27 Feb 2006, 07:59

No it isnt lost on us at all any fool can see the present crop arent in the same class as lewis, but to say we dont care aobut our own title in the blue riband weight of boxing is bollocks.

It wouldnt matter if it was two builders contesting it, most british boxing fans would tune in to see who wins.

Williams an skelton are fringe Euro level contenders on the face of it, but they are the best we have at the moment and rewarded us with a techinically low level contest but one with blood guts and action.

I thoroughly enjoyed it.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 27 Feb 2006, 08:11

Of course some british boxing fans care about a Williams-Skelton-fight for the British title. but the rest of the world doesn´t care. this title has no international meaning.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Feb 2006, 08:11

As J said, we are painfully aware of the dearth of talent in our heavyweight division, which is at possibly the lowest ebb In my living memory. Williams, Skelton and Sprott are hardly the most inspiring triumverate of leading heavyweights. Frank Bruno would have battered all three on the same night let alone Lennox.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 27 Feb 2006, 08:46

So what if it has no international meaning? this is a british board talking about a british title

Skelton and Williams aren't world class I think everyone realises this. Good close fight though, the ref should have def. been firmer with Skelton for his tactics but in his own out of shape way, Williams dealt with it well and kept his cool, rarely resorting to the same tactics to get Matt back.

For me Williams cleaner work along with the clear final round just about nicked it for him