Joshua v Hughie in November?

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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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Killer Blow wrote:Pulev fair enough but definitely not Parker.
Parker has a better record.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Taansend wrote:
BitPlayer wrote: Stivern.
Oh cheers :TU:

Stiverne isn't shot. He's as good as he ever was :lol:
Not much of an achievement.
He got knocked down in his last fight, by a guy Audley Harrison TKO'd.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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daviddee wrote:
J-C wrote:
daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills
What makes you sure Hughie is a better boxer than Savon?
Its just my opinion both are really really good... Savon seems to switch off for periods. Hughie concentrates for full rounds.. I believe Kassi and Rudenko better than anyone Joshua has fought
I agree that slick/awkward fighters are likely to be Joshua's weakness. Don't really feel like I've seen Hughie out of first or second gear yet so we'll have to wait and see. I hope they make the fight.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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hughie will outbox joshua to a points win all night long :TU:

stick n move :box:
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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BitPlayer wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Oh cheers :TU:

Stiverne isn't shot. He's as good as he ever was :lol:
Not much of an achievement.
He got knocked down in his last fight, by a guy Audley Harrison TKO'd.
THE Audley Harrison, or another one?
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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I assume this is trolling?

No one with an ounce of boxing education would think Fury would have less than a 10 per cent chance against Joshua. He's only got a work rate against back foot fighters. He's clumsy, and very crude.

Comparing how AJ did against Savon in the AMS 4 years ago is utterly simplistic.

Suppose if I'm wrong, all the chatterers will be piling on to Hughie at the inevitable 12-1 he'd be.
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Loynesy wrote:I assume this is trolling?

No one with an ounce of boxing education would think Fury would have less than a 10 per cent chance against Joshua. He's only got a work rate against back foot fighters. He's clumsy, and very crude.

Comparing how AJ did against Savon in the AMS 4 years ago is utterly simplistic.

Suppose if I'm wrong, all the chatterers will be piling on to Hughie at the inevitable 12-1 he'd be.
How about how he struggled to his Breazeale for 7 rounds, who isn't as skilled as ill Hughie.
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Loynesy wrote:I assume this is trolling?

No one with an ounce of boxing education would think Fury would have less than a 10 per cent chance against Joshua. He's only got a work rate against back foot fighters. He's clumsy, and very crude.

Comparing how AJ did against Savon in the AMS 4 years ago is utterly simplistic.

Suppose if I'm wrong, all the chatterers will be piling on to Hughie at the inevitable 12-1 he'd be.
Isn't Rudenko a come forward banger, who many thought beat Lucas Browne?

Hughie was 20 and won every round against him.
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I am going to opt out of further comments on this thread. I'm no AJ devotee, but I can't really see any case for Hughie having much of a chance.
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Loynesy wrote:I am going to opt out of further comments on this thread. I'm no AJ devotee, but I can't really see any case for Hughie having much of a chance.
Oh no, people disagree with Loynesy. What is the world coming to?
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BitPlayer wrote:
Loynesy wrote:I assume this is trolling?

No one with an ounce of boxing education would think Fury would have less than a 10 per cent chance against Joshua. He's only got a work rate against back foot fighters. He's clumsy, and very crude.

Comparing how AJ did against Savon in the AMS 4 years ago is utterly simplistic.

Suppose if I'm wrong, all the chatterers will be piling on to Hughie at the inevitable 12-1 he'd be.
How about how he struggled to his Breazeale for 7 rounds, who isn't as skilled as ill Hughie.
Struggled? How? I'm no Riddick level AJ fan boy by any stretch but he won every one of those 7 rounds before the stoppage and pretty much beat the absolute shit out of Breazeale. Bar getting an earlier stoppage, how did he struggle in that fight?
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lefty wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
Loynesy wrote:I assume this is trolling?

No one with an ounce of boxing education would think Fury would have less than a 10 per cent chance against Joshua. He's only got a work rate against back foot fighters. He's clumsy, and very crude.

Comparing how AJ did against Savon in the AMS 4 years ago is utterly simplistic.

Suppose if I'm wrong, all the chatterers will be piling on to Hughie at the inevitable 12-1 he'd be.
How about how he struggled to his Breazeale for 7 rounds, who isn't as skilled as ill Hughie.
Struggled? How? I'm no Riddick level AJ fan boy by any stretch but he won every one of those 7 rounds before the stoppage and pretty much beat the absolute poo out of Breazeale. Bar getting an earlier stoppage, how did he struggle in that fight?
Typo, Breazeale couldn't land, but did make him miss a fair ammount.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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lefty wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
Loynesy wrote:I assume this is trolling?

No one with an ounce of boxing education would think Fury would have less than a 10 per cent chance against Joshua. He's only got a work rate against back foot fighters. He's clumsy, and very crude.

Comparing how AJ did against Savon in the AMS 4 years ago is utterly simplistic.

Suppose if I'm wrong, all the chatterers will be piling on to Hughie at the inevitable 12-1 he'd be.
How about how he struggled to his Breazeale for 7 rounds, who isn't as skilled as ill Hughie.
Struggled? How? I'm no Riddick level AJ fan boy by any stretch but he won every one of those 7 rounds before the stoppage and pretty much beat the absolute poo out of Breazeale. Bar getting an earlier stoppage, how did he struggle in that fight?
Breazeale is f*cking shite, Lefty. Tough but shite. I saw him against Mansour & thought "What the f*ck".

Anyway, I would have Joshua a hefty favourite over Hughie right now but if Hughie is still there & not f*cked up by the halfway stage I'd give him a fair chance of winning. We KNOW that Anthony has a massive punch & decent skills. We don't know how good/bad Hughie is. He was a very good amateur and obviously has skills and, to my knowledge, hasn't been hurt yet as a pro.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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Putting aside opinion of how good Hughie Fury potentially is, how can a fighter who's not beaten a top 30 (?) HW become a #1 contender?

I'm not as big a AJ fan as many, but on evidence of what I've seen he's operated at a much higher level than Hughie, and defeated better fighters more impressively
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daviddee wrote:Hughie would make Joshua look silly.. Go watch Joshua v Savon at the Olympics... Hughie is bigger and a better boxer than Savon... Yes Joshua has a punchers chance but he has to hit Hughie.. Hughie has faster hands better feet and better ring craft.. Also I hear he has a better chin... Peter knows thats why he wants it.. Hughie is boring compared to Tyson takes no risks reminds me of Wlad with better skills
Hughie is excellent at the defensive end, but Savon is way better offensively, not to mention he hits much, much harder than Hughie ever dreamed of.
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The Fury's trying to rush Hughie into the fight before the drugs ban?
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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Marlo Stanfield wrote:The Fury's trying to rush Hughie into the fight before the drugs ban?
Maybe.

Hearn is saying it might not happen now.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... ddie-hearn
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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I'm no Joshua fanboy, but he'd obliterate Hughie I think. Sheer power alone combined with Hughie's defintiely not drug induced skin problems causing him to mark up badly, I don't think it would go past five rounds. Perhaps I haven't watched enough Hughie, but he seems quite slow and languid. Whilst the's got a decent defence, that will only last so long and I think it would be entirely one-way traffic.
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Stuffs wrote:I'm no Joshua fanboy, but he'd obliterate Hughie I think.
You think? :lol:

It's hardly a bold prediction is it? And I aint a fanboy either.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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ILikeBeer wrote:
Stuffs wrote:I'm no Joshua fanboy, but he'd obliterate Hughie I think.
You think? :lol:

It's hardly a bold prediction is it? And I aint a fanboy either.
Saying you think Joshua will win seems equal to "You want to gargle his no doubt humble peen" on some internet outlets, so it's an important disclaimer.
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Ian1973 wrote:I don't think Hughie is mentally ready for this level yet. Yes, he has the technical ability but at the moment he's too fragile. Give him a couple of years and let him mature into himself. There is no rush, he's a kid.
Why do you suggest he is not mentally ready? How do you make him to fragile?

I'd suggest after 20+ pro fights albeit at domestic level that he is mentally sound and stable to be stepping up and fighting for titles. Its clear they have no interest in the British domestic scene and he is training daily with the heavyweight champ so who better to test himself against.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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Wales wrote:Putting aside opinion of how good Hughie Fury potentially is, how can a fighter who's not beaten a top 30 (?) HW become a #1 contender?

I'm not as big a AJ fan as many, but on evidence of what I've seen he's operated at a much higher level than Hughie, and defeated better fighters more impressively
Hughie beats everybody that AJ has beaten...
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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jaymitch81 wrote:
Wales wrote:Putting aside opinion of how good Hughie Fury potentially is, how can a fighter who's not beaten a top 30 (?) HW become a #1 contender?

I'm not as big a AJ fan as many, but on evidence of what I've seen he's operated at a much higher level than Hughie, and defeated better fighters more impressively
Hughie beats everybody that AJ has beaten...
Whyte would test him .
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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rd350lc wrote:
jaymitch81 wrote:
Wales wrote:Putting aside opinion of how good Hughie Fury potentially is, how can a fighter who's not beaten a top 30 (?) HW become a #1 contender?

I'm not as big a AJ fan as many, but on evidence of what I've seen he's operated at a much higher level than Hughie, and defeated better fighters more impressively
Hughie beats everybody that AJ has beaten...
Whyte would test him .
Yes no doubt but I still expect Hughie to outbox him convincingly. Shame we will never know really.
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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

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I cannot believe that anyone would give Hughie any chance of beating Joshua. He simply doesn't possess the power to knock Joshua out, and just do not see him eluding Joshua long enough to win on points (and even if he did - I still see Joshua outworking him).

I love how people think that fighters can just dodge Joshua for 12 rounds. Some weird suggestion that Joshua can't move. Joshua has excellent footwork and a decent work rate. He has extremely good punch accuracy and excellent overhand counters. If Hughie commits, he's going to be playing a dangerous game. Also as soon as Hughie gets rocked by a Joshua right, he'll go into survival mode. The only way I see Joshua being beaten is fighting fire with fire, and there is not many that can match Joshua for power (perhaps Wilder, Haye, Ortiz).

As far as any potential fight with Hughie, I find HIGHLY unlikely at this point. One because of this doping investigation hanging over his head (which is one of the reasons it's ludicrous that Tyson would be fighting Wlad any time soon), and secondly there seems to be a lot of references over his general health and fitness. Seems Hughie has a lot of work to do before he fights anyone - be it medically or legally.

Joshua to fight one of Stiverne, Parker or Pulev next. I think it'll be Stiverne next (Parker due to fight Dimitrenko in October). Although all 3 fighters will be a stark improvement on ANY body that Joshua has been in the ring with next.
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