Hattons online meltdown

[Stevieb8006]

I know its a bit gossip columny, but a lot of people on here care about the guy so I thought I would post it anyway.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tdown.html

[TheCobra]

Doesn't sound great does it. He's had a lot of problems with family and seems to be having the same with his missus as well the last few years. Shame but the drink and drugs really don't help him, he seems lost since he quit boxing. Hope he doesn't do anything daft one of these days.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Depression is a bastard, I've had several lengthy and crippling bouts of it over the years myself. Ricky's going to have these moments hopefully they will pass. Sounds like he needs to get himself clean though, booze and drugs and depression do not make good bedfellows.

[BrackaBarclay]

Depression is a bastard, I've had several lengthy and crippling bouts of it over the years myself. Ricky's going to have these moments hopefully they will pass. Sounds like he needs to get himself clean though, booze and drugs and depression do not make good bedfellows.

Yes. And living on a party island with loads of people offering you drinks and chang. With loads of money but nothing much to do. It's a bad mix.

To get out of it he needs a proper reason to get out of bed, instead of just hitting the beach bar. He's tried training but it hasn't really worked out.

[Stevieb8006]

Depression is a bastard, I've had several lengthy and crippling bouts of it over the years myself. Ricky's going to have these moments hopefully they will pass. Sounds like he needs to get himself clean though, booze and drugs and depression do not make good bedfellows.

Yes. And living on a party island with loads of people offering you drinks and chang. With loads of money but nothing much to do. It's a bad mix.

To get out of it he needs a proper reason to get out of bed, instead of just hitting the beach bar. He's tried training but it hasn't really worked out.

I always felt he was tormenting himself a bit when training the young kids. Maybe he should try and put the sport behind him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Depression is a bastard, I've had several lengthy and crippling bouts of it over the years myself. Ricky's going to have these moments hopefully they will pass. Sounds like he needs to get himself clean though, booze and drugs and depression do not make good bedfellows.

Yes. And living on a party island with loads of people offering you drinks and chang. With loads of money but nothing much to do. It's a bad mix.

To get out of it he needs a proper reason to get out of bed, instead of just hitting the beach bar. He's tried training but it hasn't really worked out.

I think it's also the classic problem that top level fighters face when they retire, there's never going to be anything else they do with their lives in most cases, that they will be anywhere near as good at as fighting, and nothing can really replace the buzz. Perhaps training isn't for him, he's certainly not a great cornerman from what I've seen, but he'd better find something to fill the void fast, because he'll drink and snort his way to an early grave otherwise, having all of that money and time, is a very dangerous mix.

[bripez]

I read the other week that his missues had left him - without knowing the details it wasn't a big surprise to be honest.

As others have said, having money, loads of time, an obsessive and addictive personalty etc. are not a good combo.

Hopefully he wont end up like Gazza but the signs aren't good.

[whiskey]

Let's hope he finds peace.

[magwitch]

I’ve never done cocaine but it sounds like a big bag of sh*t to me.
I doubt he’s an alcoholic. He wants to quit any drugs he’s on and it probably wouldn’t be the worst idea to consider a career change, as others have said.
It’s a strange one that success can mean you don’t have to work any more, but that’s only any good if you can handle that lifestyle.

[ILikeBeer]

I’ve never done cocaine but it sounds like a big bag of sh*t to me.
I doubt he’s an alcoholic. He wants to quit any drugs he’s on and it probably wouldn’t be the worst idea to consider a career change, as others have said.
It’s a strange one that success can mean you don’t have to work any more, but that’s only any good if you can handle that lifestyle.

To be fair, I know it's hard to have sympathy with somebody that's so rich they never have to work again, but I can see it happening.

I mean I've had loads of that sort of weekend. Saturday afternoon, nothing going on, nip out for a few beers, whoops it's closing time. It's easily done with a spare weekend.

Imagine having nothing to do with your life, but a bag of money to do it with. I can imagine it's easier than you think to be out boozing all the time.

Maybe Ricky should've spent more time with the missus. I mean, in my example of myself, at least I'm single. He'd got somebody who could look out for him. Do stuff with. Guide him away from being drunk all the time.

[MacTavish]

I’ve never done cocaine but it sounds like a big bag of sh*t to me.
I doubt he’s an alcoholic. He wants to quit any drugs he’s on and it probably wouldn’t be the worst idea to consider a career change, as others have said.
It’s a strange one that success can mean you don’t have to work any more, but that’s only any good if you can handle that lifestyle.

I think he has had serious booze problems and those don't dissapear easily.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Time for his true friends to stand up and be counted. I am sure they already are.

[rpms]

It`s a strange one isn`t it,and plenty of parallels to draw from.
On his way up he seemed to have it made,a lovely close family and great relationships with everybody close to him,loads of genuine friends too.
To manage to fall out with just about everyone along the way really takes some doing,behind closed doors he must be a very destructive personality.
Lets hope he finds a way back,and soon.

[BrackaBarclay]

He must be in a massive emotional whirlpool of self destruction. Couple that with family problems (his wife, I think he doesn't talk to his parents) and the urge to party and the money to do so. Sure when he's partying with hangers on and pissed and high; he feels good. But the reality comes back hard the next day. Especially on the comedown and feeling phylysically dreadful without a support system.... It's got to be a dichotomy of good times / hellish times. But the good times become less good and the hellish times become worse....

I don't know Ricky so it's difficult to advise, but a huge geographic move might be interesting. But with that has to come some work, some reason to get up, some drive.

Just going to rehab very rarely sorts anyone out. They may have good intentions but are basically snake oil salesman and based around 12 steps higher power nonsense - totally unscientificand Psychologically unproven, not to mention statistically.

Very few of these 'rehabs' prepare you correctly for the outside world. It's easy to stay sober in a 'clinic' with other people staying sober, living in a clean room, having nice concerned people around... But that isn't the real world. And it can cost up to £20,000 a month plus.

As we learn more about addiction from a biological perspective and psychological one we may find a solution. But at the moment a lot of 'treatment' is ridiculously based around amateurs following an outdated and religious prescription, put together by an uneducated religious pair seeking to convert people to a Christian pseudo religion.

[Nightmare Roy]

It must be hard, one minute your a superstar, fighting in front of millions and constantly on TV, then before you know it, it's over and nobody is interested in you anymore and your just alone wondering around a big house with nothing to do.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I’ve never done cocaine but it sounds like a big bag of sh*t to me.
I doubt he’s an alcoholic. He wants to quit any drugs he’s on and it probably wouldn’t be the worst idea to consider a career change, as others have said.
It’s a strange one that success can mean you don’t have to work any more, but that’s only any good if you can handle that lifestyle.

I'd say her certainly has serious problems with alcohol; I can tell you from personal experience, that most coke fiends are also alcoholics, it's the booze that starts the trigger to fancy the coke - almost nobody does coke in isolation. I remember meeting someone who was part of Hatton's set up years ago, before he fought Tszyu, and he said that Ricky was a total pisshead and that he was in danger of blowing everything, and that was way before retirement kicked in. Alcohol is the most destructive drug there is, it leads people to make all the other bad life choices that flow from it, and rob people of their time, energy and discernment.

[jamesmcdonnell]

He must be in a massive emotional whirlpool of self destruction. Couple that with family problems (his wife, I think he doesn't talk to his parents) and the urge to party and the money to do so. Sure when he's partying with hangers on and pissed and high; he feels good. But the reality comes back hard the next day. Especially on the comedown and feeling phylysically dreadful without a support system.... It's got to be a dichotomy of good times / hellish times. But the good times become less good and the hellish times become worse....

I don't know Ricky so it's difficult to advise, but a huge geographic move might be interesting. But with that has to come some work, some reason to get up, some drive.

Just going to rehab very rarely sorts anyone out. They may have good intentions but are basically snake oil salesman and based around 12 steps higher power nonsense - totally unscientificand Psychologically unproven, not to mention statistically.

Very few of these 'rehabs' prepare you correctly for the outside world. It's easy to stay sober in a 'clinic' with other people staying sober, living in a clean room, having nice concerned people around... But that isn't the real world. And it can cost up to £20,000 a month plus.

As we learn more about addiction from a biological perspective and psychological one we may find a solution. But at the moment a lot of 'treatment' is ridiculously based around amateurs following an outdated and religious prescription, put together by an uneducated religious pair seeking to convert people to a Christian pseudo religion.

Yes, rehab is hardly ever successful, but makes shed loads of money. There's no science behind their methods at all. In fact the 12 steps program, reinforces the idea that people are weak and powerless, which in the long term, is obviously not good.

[sweetscience]

Ideally he needs keep himself busy

should buy a none boxing & booze related business

or work for a charity full time

[jamesmcdonnell]

Ideally he needs keep himself busy

should buy a none boxing & booze related business

or work for a charity full time

Maybe he could volunteer behind the counter at one of those scope charity shops - I can just see him now folding second hand jumpers with old doris' - if that doesn't replace the thrill of boxing, I don't know what does.

[Boxerbeetle]

Ideally he needs keep himself busy

should buy a none boxing & booze related business

or work for a charity full time

Maybe he could volunteer behind the counter at one of those scope charity shops - I can just see him now folding second hand jumpers with old doris' - if that doesn't replace the thrill of boxing, I don't know what does.

Hatton could probably still sell out the MEN, even if he was just folding second hand jumpers in the ring. Hopefully he sorts himself out soon.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Ideally he needs keep himself busy

should buy a none boxing & booze related business

or work for a charity full time

Maybe he could volunteer behind the counter at one of those scope charity shops - I can just see him now folding second hand jumpers with old doris' - if that doesn't replace the thrill of boxing, I don't know what does.

Hatton could probably still sell out the MEN, even if he was just folding second hand jumpers in the ring. Hopefully he sorts himself out soon.

You're probably right, I used to say they'd turn up to watch him struggling to erect a deck chair when he was in his pomp.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Dick chair

[Nightmare Roy]

Ideally he needs keep himself busy

should buy a none boxing & booze related business

or work for a charity full time

Maybe he could volunteer behind the counter at one of those scope charity shops - I can just see him now folding second hand jumpers with old doris' - if that doesn't replace the thrill of boxing, I don't know what does.

[Stuarty]

My sympathies go out to him. As James mentioned in a previous post, depression is an awful condition. I can't deal with it at all if I've been drinking. It's very difficult but I can just about manage if my heads semi clear. It's an old cliché but drink/drugs only make things worse. I hope he gets some proper help.

[TheCobra]

Some good sense on this thread, hopefully someone can talk some sense into him from his circle of friends. He's basically right now doing the opposite of everything you would tell someone to do with his past and problems.

I know with depression issues myself, you take the beer to have a release, then as others said, you get the trigger for a coke binge, before you know it your stumbling out of a casino at 8am (I've kept going sometimes til 5pm the next day), then going home later and spending the next 24 hours rotting in bed.

He is becoming a Gazza-like figure and it's sad to see. He has to find something new to go for, a new challenge, stop living on his name and his past - it's gone now and he's only 37 so he's got years to do something else. Tis hard when he's clearly got the demons of drink and drugs in his mind all the time. Only when he stops that will he get his life better. There comes an age where that shit stops being enjoyable and it just becomes abuse - to yourself and your family.