Hattons online meltdown

[J]

mrs can never dink again fella.

same boat she cant understand how I can have a couple of ciders and leave it in the fridge.

she would just HAVE to drink the house dry.

awful disease is alcoholism.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Yeah, for some people, it's just a no-no.

[magwitch]

This thread’s giving me a thirst to be honest

[Rexob]

Personaly ,A starving child in Angola with a malnutritioned belly gets my vote of sympathy ,, A blind , one legged pensioner who can't hobble to the pub for a beer even if he could see it , so sits in a bedsit listening to coronation st , gets my sympathy ,, A woman with 8 kids living in a slum area and a abusive horrible druggie partner gets my sympathy .

But a a boxer with millions in the bank Thousands of arse licking fans , and a familly who care about him . Who goes on booze and drug binges because he's bored and got nothing to do with to much money to do it , well he does'nt Oh wo betied me , says poor Ricky ,, Its a shame for me , because i lost my world title and did'nt recover i've got nothing left ,, Its not fair ,
Get fucked Hatton ,, suck it up Princess he needs to take a teespoon of cement and harden the fook up ,, Take a look around , he's got adoring fans , he's got kids , he's got money , alls he needs to do is GET A FOOKING HOBBY , AND STOP FEELING SORRY FOR HIMSELF COS HE LOST A COUPLE OF FIGHTS , ,, guys a plonker , if he's bored and thats all it is buy a 4 wheel drive and take his kids across the sahara ,, whgat makes it worse is NO ONE seems to want to tell him , they all want to help him , and the first step to being helped is recognise the pronblem , and the problem is his ego ,

Yep his big EGO his boredom and his ability to spend when he wants too ,, alongside that are the arse lickers who will tell him its alright Ricky because he's paying

Hatton needs to get a life and toughen up ,

Post of the year, absolutely agree

[BrackaBarclay]

Personaly ,A starving child in Angola with a malnutritioned belly gets my vote of sympathy ,, A blind , one legged pensioner who can't hobble to the pub for a beer even if he could see it , so sits in a bedsit listening to coronation st , gets my sympathy ,, A woman with 8 kids living in a slum area and a abusive horrible druggie partner gets my sympathy .

But a a boxer with millions in the bank Thousands of arse licking fans , and a familly who care about him . Who goes on booze and drug binges because he's bored and got nothing to do with to much money to do it , well he does'nt Oh wo betied me , says poor Ricky ,, Its a shame for me , because i lost my world title and did'nt recover i've got nothing left ,, Its not fair ,
Get fucked Hatton ,, suck it up Princess he needs to take a teespoon of cement and harden the fook up ,, Take a look around , he's got adoring fans , he's got kids , he's got money , alls he needs to do is GET A FOOKING HOBBY , AND STOP FEELING SORRY FOR HIMSELF COS HE LOST A COUPLE OF FIGHTS , ,, guys a plonker , if he's bored and thats all it is buy a 4 wheel drive and take his kids across the sahara ,, whgat makes it worse is NO ONE seems to want to tell him , they all want to help him , and the first step to being helped is recognise the pronblem , and the problem is his ego ,

Yep his big EGO his boredom and his ability to spend when he wants too ,, alongside that are the arse lickers who will tell him its alright Ricky because he's paying

Hatton needs to get a life and toughen up ,

Post of the year, absolutely agree

I understand - but that's not the way the mind works. There are loads of super talented, rich, good looking people that top themselves.... Funnily enough in 'developing' countries the suicide rate is extremely low.... Complexity of life can fornicate up someone's head - environment oddly hasn't necessarily got much to do with severe depression.

Ps not to be a deliberate pedant; but I'm not sure there's a famine in Angola (correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Boxerbeetle]

If and you say IF James , Well IF he suffers from depresion and i mean real depresion then i have missed the point .But i suspect Hattons notoriety has being a hard drinking coko taking Jack the lad , has a lot to do with it , I retired early i was a party animal before i retired , but work was the main focus , running my buisness was my life it had took over , completly ,, I was up early on the tools ,(building ) in the morning ,, checking jobs in the afternoon , quotes at night , and still found time , god knows how to get on the piss , buisness lunches galore .. Strip clubs with the clients and building supervisors , I had a very very hetic life ..

Then i retired , and the lunches stopped , the phone calls died off , i found myself looking at the phone thinking why does'nt it ring , It was very hard to let go ,,, I got to the stage where the wife was worried the kids were worried about me ,, i'd get up at the normal time and sit round the house all day not even bothering to get dressed ,, just hanging around ,, when i did get dressed i would go to the pub and get pissed , i found plenty of new freinds there who were more than willing to come out on benders when the mood took me , only thing is they would run out of money half way through the night , guess who would pick up the tab .. and it would be slaps on the back and see you tomoro all round . I was Hatton, busy life , to no life , money in my pocket , and people willing to help me spend it ..

Wife spoke to our doctor , he wanted to see me and said i was depressed , here he said take these , some shite , I took them and they made me worse , My youngest lad came around he had a go at me , He said face it dad your not depressed your fooking bored . Anyway I took a good long hard look at myself and said HE'S RIGHT ,, I lived such a busy hectic life , normal life was horrible , so i went to the gym with him 3 nights a week , his brothers asked me to come and help them with work . it got me busy again , now i don't go to work with them, i enjoy being retired and doing nothing , i find i often wonder how the hell did i find the time to work , I still drink but no where near the same amount ,

I have since , took note of a few , in fact more than a few people i know, who are on medication for depresion , it interested me , and a couple i suppose really are, and theres something about them , like there almost suicidal , but most i think are just playing the game making excuses , and like me there helped along by doctors and welfare workers who are creating there own industry .. I fully support organizations that deal in depresion, because the black dog is a killer , but i just think its an excuse for a lot , and i was one of them , i was'nt depressed i was bored with to much time and to much money .. Hatton i suspect is just bored and misses the adulation and the cheers , He loves being the man of the people and the jack the lad, and will put that before his wife and kids , he's a pillock .

If he really has depresion , gheres help available ,, but he seeks help on fooking twitter . PRATT

Coneye, your posts are getting better and better. You rubbed me up the wrong way when you were first on here but I have to say you genuinely contribute positively to this forum. Feel like I owe you an apology. Cant really disagree with your point. Whilst depression is a serious, nasty business, it seems to be a "go to" diagnosis nowadays.

Yes this post is spot on (apart from the grammar ). There is an absolutely huge industry behind anti-depressants, and doctors/therapists are more than happy to support it. And whilst clinical depression is a terrible thing, I think a lot of the social stigma comes from the fact that lots of people claim to have it when they quite obviously don't (and there's no real way of disproving it), which trivialises the issue for the genuine cases.

[rpms]

This thread’s giving me a thirst to be honest

[magwitch]

If and you say IF James , Well IF he suffers from depresion and i mean real depresion then i have missed the point .But i suspect Hattons notoriety has being a hard drinking coko taking Jack the lad , has a lot to do with it , I retired early i was a party animal before i retired , but work was the main focus , running my buisness was my life it had took over , completly ,, I was up early on the tools ,(building ) in the morning ,, checking jobs in the afternoon , quotes at night , and still found time , god knows how to get on the piss , buisness lunches galore .. Strip clubs with the clients and building supervisors , I had a very very hetic life ..

Then i retired , and the lunches stopped , the phone calls died off , i found myself looking at the phone thinking why does'nt it ring , It was very hard to let go ,,, I got to the stage where the wife was worried the kids were worried about me ,, i'd get up at the normal time and sit round the house all day not even bothering to get dressed ,, just hanging around ,, when i did get dressed i would go to the pub and get pissed , i found plenty of new freinds there who were more than willing to come out on benders when the mood took me , only thing is they would run out of money half way through the night , guess who would pick up the tab .. and it would be slaps on the back and see you tomoro all round . I was Hatton, busy life , to no life , money in my pocket , and people willing to help me spend it ..

Wife spoke to our doctor , he wanted to see me and said i was depressed , here he said take these , some shite , I took them and they made me worse , My youngest lad came around he had a go at me , He said face it dad your not depressed your fooking bored . Anyway I took a good long hard look at myself and said HE'S RIGHT ,, I lived such a busy hectic life , normal life was horrible , so i went to the gym with him 3 nights a week , his brothers asked me to come and help them with work . it got me busy again , now i don't go to work with them, i enjoy being retired and doing nothing , i find i often wonder how the hell did i find the time to work , I still drink but no where near the same amount ,

I have since , took note of a few , in fact more than a few people i know, who are on medication for depresion , it interested me , and a couple i suppose really are, and theres something about them , like there almost suicidal , but most i think are just playing the game making excuses , and like me there helped along by doctors and welfare workers who are creating there own industry .. I fully support organizations that deal in depresion, because the black dog is a killer , but i just think its an excuse for a lot , and i was one of them , i was'nt depressed i was bored with to much time and to much money .. Hatton i suspect is just bored and misses the adulation and the cheers , He loves being the man of the people and the jack the lad, and will put that before his wife and kids , he's a pillock .

If he really has depresion , gheres help available ,, but he seeks help on fooking twitter . PRATT

Coneye, your posts are getting better and better. You rubbed me up the wrong way when you were first on here but I have to say you genuinely contribute positively to this forum. Feel like I owe you an apology. Cant really disagree with your point. Whilst depression is a serious, nasty business, it seems to be a "go to" diagnosis nowadays.

Yes this post is spot on (apart from the grammar ). There is an absolutely huge industry behind anti-depressants, and doctors/therapists are more than happy to support it. And whilst clinical depression is a terrible thing, I think a lot of the social stigma comes from the fact that lots of people claim to have it when they quite obviously don't (and there's no real way of disproving it), which trivialises the issue for the genuine cases.

Is it posible that the severity of the depression is linked to the effect it has on an individual? i.e. one person might cry over spilt milk whilst if another one gets blinded in one eye, at least they have another one?

What about experience of the illness and lifestage of the sufferer? As James McDonnell points out (I have found this to be the case also) when you have been depressed, you can sort of see the b*stard for what it is. Whereas if it launches an unexpected attack on an 18yr old....or a 14yr old....bloody hell. That’s an impact.

I know a single Dad who does not have a lot of access to his daughter. Mother sounds like a crackpot. Daughter is not even a teenager and is on pills for it. He believes any tablet meds will probably perjudicate her future wellbeing. I happen to agree and these drugs are new enough that you just know full fine well that the medical “professionals” are taking punts on it. It needs looking in to.

[mickey1975]

I've never been depressed, but been terrible with drink. Hope they're all ok!

[SteveDow]

I think the use of the tag alcoholic is a problem one; I can say hand on heart I'm a terrible pisshead - that doesn't mean I drink every day, but it does mean that If I have a drink, you can guarantee I'll end up totally effing spanked, no matter what I tell myself beforehand, I'll always be the last man standing, and will continue to drink till there's nothing left, and then probably head out to get more - and I'll end up on the bugle too, guaranteed in 95% of cases, the history is there to prove it.

Does that make me an alcoholic, possibly, does it matter what you call it, probably not - what is certain is that alcohol is something I need to be very careful of. Just because the wheels haven't totally fallen off my life, doesn't mean it's not a problem, there's certainly been phases where it's come very close, and in most cases alcohol was implicated.

Anyway, enough about me; my point is that none of us can say for certain whether Ricky is a full blown alcoholic (whatever that definition means) - but certainly he's got a poor relationship with alcohol and is in a very bad place. Sure, maybe it was just a daft tweet when pissed, but then again, maybe not, or maybe indicative of a man in a very bad place right now.

This has just described my exact relationship with alcohol. I can't go out and have a few. If I go out and get on it, then after 3 pints I'm ON it. there is no middle ground, no just having a few, especially with certain mates. Therefore for the most part I just avoid it.

It's not an 'alcoholic' but I would say it's probably a 'problem with alcohol' as a closer to the truth description.

Same with me guys. It's all or nothing for me most times and it has led to some silly decisions although not anything particularly catastrophic. I am better now though than I was when I was younger. I have to be with my job really. I tend to slope off when I'm getting to the stage where I've had too much nowadays as I never fully trust myself when I'm too drunk.

[coneye]

The thing with booze is you have to learn to live with the after shock ,Like when you go out and end up a babbling mess , waking up the next day and cringing , thinking what the fack have i done . Only to be told you made a complete pratt off yourself , tried to sniff some old boilers knickers , while your mates egged you on , followed with getting your head and eybrows shaved , and looking in the mirror to find that your mates have painted you like a clown putting some slappers lipstick on you . ..

Well when you can analize this situation , and say to yourself ,, On one hand the missis things i'm a pratt , a drunkard and a waste of space , but on the other hand me mates say , we had a real good night , and even though you can't remember you believe them .. So when you can analize it , think long and hard about it and say fornicate it , i'm going again .. without feeling guilty ..

Then and only then can you look in the mirror and say ,, your not a alcaholic , Your a det set party animal , a machine , a credit to the male species , , bring it on , and go out and get off your head again the following week .

And when her indoors moans , do what i do , tell her you married me cos i was a yob , and a nice tee total , bookworm would bore you .

[jamesmcdonnell]

Perhaps we need a new section on the forum "boxrec self help group."

[TheCobra]

Perhaps we need a new section on the forum "boxrec self help group."

We do indeed. Or maybe a meetup... over a few quiet pints... what could go wrong?

[jamesmcdonnell]

Well. We do have a former regular member of the forum returning to blighty soon.

[Emmseegee]

I have sympathy for anyone who has troubled times and fully agree that money doesnt guaruntee happiness. A great book I read a while back about how someone managed to change their life around was by Duff McKagen of Guns & Roses. I would recommend it to anyone who likes a good bit of reading, anyone with an interest in music and fitness will enjoy his book. He recovered near death experiences which were caused by drink and drugs to become a fitness fanatic. He had money, fame and adoring fans, If he could change his life for the better after all his troubles then so can anyone.

Just an edit incase anyone does follow up in that book. The one im referring to is called 'its so easy and other lies' as I just noticed he has another couple out. One earlier and one more recent that I cant vouch for.

[BrackaBarclay]

mrs can never dink again fella.

same boat she cant understand how I can have a couple of ciders and leave it in the fridge.

she would just HAVE to drink the house dry.

awful disease is alcoholism.

Alcoholism is not a disease. That is a myth peddled by the weirdoes of AA, based on some religious nonsense by a 1930s cult that does more damage than good.

Alcoholism is partly genetic, partly environmental, and largely psychological. We are learning more and more about alcoholism and its psychological and physiological causes.

And dealing with addiction has nothing, nothing to do with a higher power.

[jamesmcdonnell]

mrs can never dink again fella.

same boat she cant understand how I can have a couple of ciders and leave it in the fridge.

she would just HAVE to drink the house dry.

awful disease is alcoholism.

Alcoholism is not a disease. That is a myth peddled by the weirdoes of AA, based on some religious nonsense by a 1930s cult that does more damage than good.

Alcoholism is partly genetic, partly environmental, and largely psychological. We are learning more and more about alcoholism and its psychological and physiological causes.

And dealing with addiction has nothing, nothing to do with a higher power.

Yes, completely agree. I went to an AA meeting once, at the time I was going well off the rails with booze, getting pissed 4-5 nights a week, and I mean blotto, barely holding down a job - I went to one meeting, and that was enough for me.

It's a pseudoreligion, with no basis in any kind of science or empirical evidence. a lot of the people there were seriously bloody weird.

As you say, there are now some proper scientific studies, and behavioural therapies for Alcoholism, my own problems with booze I think stem from the fact that I'm a naturally anxious and hyperactive person, and booze takes off the edge for me. If I hit the gym a lot, it takes away some of my energy and I tend to steer away from booze and other nasties.

[Eddy]

Personaly ,A starving child in Angola with a malnutritioned belly gets my vote of sympathy ,, A blind , one legged pensioner who can't hobble to the pub for a beer even if he could see it , so sits in a bedsit listening to coronation st , gets my sympathy ,, A woman with 8 kids living in a slum area and a abusive horrible druggie partner gets my sympathy .

But a a boxer with millions in the bank Thousands of arse licking fans , and a familly who care about him . Who goes on booze and drug binges because he's bored and got nothing to do with to much money to do it , well he does'nt Oh wo betied me , says poor Ricky ,, Its a shame for me , because i lost my world title and did'nt recover i've got nothing left ,, Its not fair ,
Get fucked Hatton ,, suck it up Princess he needs to take a teespoon of cement and harden the fook up ,, Take a look around , he's got adoring fans , he's got kids , he's got money , alls he needs to do is GET A FOOKING HOBBY , AND STOP FEELING SORRY FOR HIMSELF COS HE LOST A COUPLE OF FIGHTS , ,, guys a plonker , if he's bored and thats all it is buy a 4 wheel drive and take his kids across the sahara ,, whgat makes it worse is NO ONE seems to want to tell him , they all want to help him , and the first step to being helped is recognise the pronblem , and the problem is his ego ,

Yep his big EGO his boredom and his ability to spend when he wants too ,, alongside that are the arse lickers who will tell him its alright Ricky because he's paying

Hatton needs to get a life and toughen up ,

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'm not one to sit in judgement, I wish him the best.

[magwitch]

Well. We do have a former regular member of the forum returning to blighty soon.

Let’s get on it. We could have it to coincide with the boxing cards. For every knock down we all do a shot. Each time Carl Froch uses the word “warrior” you’ve to see off the contents of your glass. Who else is in?

[Noxy]

I'm not one to sit in judgement, I wish him the best.

Hear hear, best of luck to him.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Well. We do have a former regular member of the forum returning to blighty soon.

Let’s get on it. We could have it to coincide with the boxing cards. For every knock down we all do a shot. Each time Carl Froch uses the word “warrior” you’ve to see off the contents of your glass. Who else is in?

What if he mentions beating George groves in front of 80,000 at Wembley - what do we do then?

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Depression is a bastard, I've had several lengthy and crippling bouts of it over the years myself. Ricky's going to have these moments hopefully they will pass. Sounds like he needs to get himself clean though, booze and drugs and depression do not make good bedfellows.

that's true mate

[J]

mrs can never dink again fella.

same boat she cant understand how I can have a couple of ciders and leave it in the fridge.

she would just HAVE to drink the house dry.

awful disease is alcoholism.

Alcoholism is not a disease. That is a myth peddled by the weirdoes of AA, based on some religious nonsense by a 1930s cult that does more damage than good.

Alcoholism is partly genetic, partly environmental, and largely psychological. We are learning more and more about alcoholism and its psychological and physiological causes.

And dealing with addiction has nothing, nothing to do with a higher power.

dude while I appreciate your right to an opinion, I don't appreciate your condemnation of my point, like most counseling you take what is useful and discard what isnt to assist you, my wife is not a weirdo and without rehab would be dead and my children motherless, that is more fucked up than believing in a higher deity. Each to their own. If it keeps her sober than great, please don't sit in judgement cos the alternatives are much worse than and severe than her reading a book or praying from time to time.

I don't believe btw but I can respect how it can help an individual. open your mind a bit mate life isn't as simple as right and wrong, black and white.

[Stevieb8006]

mrs can never dink again fella.

same boat she cant understand how I can have a couple of ciders and leave it in the fridge.

she would just HAVE to drink the house dry.

awful disease is alcoholism.

Alcoholism is not a disease. That is a myth peddled by the weirdoes of AA, based on some religious nonsense by a 1930s cult that does more damage than good.

Alcoholism is partly genetic, partly environmental, and largely psychological. We are learning more and more about alcoholism and its psychological and physiological causes.

And dealing with addiction has nothing, nothing to do with a higher power.

dude while I appreciate your right to an opinion, I don't appreciate your condemnation of my point, like most counseling you take what is useful and discard what isnt to assist you, my wife is not a weirdo and without rehab would be dead and my children motherless, that is more fucked up than believing in a higher deity. Each to their own. If it keeps her sober than great, please don't sit in judgement cos the alternatives are much worse than and severe than her reading a book or praying from time to time.

I don't believe btw but I can respect how it can help an individual. open your mind a bit mate life isn't as simple as right and wrong, black and white.