Yeah, this fight won't happen this year from whatever reason. GGG would probably face one of his mandatory challengers.What makes it kind of ironic is that Jacobs is one of GGG's mandatories beside Heiland and Tureano.Enlightened-One wrote:What we’ll probably end up seeing, are reports in the media, probably originally sourced by Dan Rafael, quoting “substantial” offers submitted by K2 to Daniel Jacobs, “rumoured” to be around the $4m mark.
For some “strange” reason, K2’s “substantial” offer will swiftly be rejected, with Daniel Jacobs or his representatives claiming that the sum of money being offered to them was insufficient – around the $1.5m mark (or even less).
GGG’s fans will automatically believe K2’s version of events (without paying attention to the Kazakh’s typical paydays) and the “everyone is scared” or “everyone is ducking” Golovkin myth will continue to be perpetuated.
We’ll then continue hearing the “it’s not GGG’s fault” chants ringing in our ears as the automatic defence mechanism employed by Golovkin’s fans to address the flaws in his resume.
To be honest, the IBF ordered Golovkin to face Wade and Haymon allowed his charge to face GGG on HBO. However, Jacobs is a bigger name, so Haymon may not allow Jacobs to fight on HBO – as the big name guys from the Haymon stable very rarely compete on HBO.
We also know that Jacobs has recently claimed that he wants the interest in this contest to simmer and grow, claiming he’ll face him in 18 months’ time when the fight is worth much more money, because he refuses to fight for “chump change”. Whatever happens, he’ll almost certainly want to command much more for the GGG fight than the $1.5m paid to Lemieux.
Jacobs is a big middleweight - 1.5" taller than GGG with 3" longer reach and likely a few lb heavier in the ring - and a skilled operator to boot. That said, I don't think he hits as hard as Lemieux and GGG was able to handle his punch - though Jacobs would likely land more frequently than Lemieux did. The biggest issue here is Jacobs' chin - I see this fight being an early to mid rounds KO win to GGG.caldo2025 wrote:Admittedly, i'm a GGG guy and think that he's the best that i've ever seen. But this is the matchup that i've been thinking could be the toughest fight out there for GGG. Jacobs is a true Middleweight with the reach and power that i think could hang with GGG. For some reason, I find this fight to be intriguing. I hope that they can work out the speed bumps and make it happen.
Exactly. He is Quillin's twin brother.Marlo Stanfield wrote:Jacobs won't dare set foot in the ring with Golovkin
You are probably correct. GGG is a monster, no doubt. Lemieux has excellent power but he just had no shot of landing anything against GGG due to his size and lack of reach. Jacobs will be hitting down at his target with GGG and thus generating more of a descending blow which makes me think that he's got a better shot to land something that we've not seen landed on GGG. Physically, Jacobs has a better chance at success than anyone else before him so that's why i think that he's the best available option for a competitive fight. But i'd definitely not bet against your opinion as you are probably right.jezzamundo wrote:Jacobs is a big middleweight - 1.5" taller than GGG with 3" longer reach and likely a few lb heavier in the ring - and a skilled operator to boot. That said, I don't think he hits as hard as Lemieux and GGG was able to handle his punch - though Jacobs would likely land more frequently than Lemieux did. The biggest issue here is Jacobs' chin - I see this fight being an early to mid rounds KO win to GGG.caldo2025 wrote:Admittedly, i'm a GGG guy and think that he's the best that i've ever seen. But this is the matchup that i've been thinking could be the toughest fight out there for GGG. Jacobs is a true Middleweight with the reach and power that i think could hang with GGG. For some reason, I find this fight to be intriguing. I hope that they can work out the speed bumps and make it happen.
Jacobs didn't land anything to hurt Pirog ...caldo2025 wrote:You are probably correct. GGG is a monster, no doubt. Lemieux has excellent power but he just had no shot of landing anything against GGG due to his size and lack of reach. Jacobs will be hitting down at his target with GGG and thus generating more of a descending blow which makes me think that he's got a better shot to land something that we've not seen landed on GGG. Physically, Jacobs has a better chance at success than anyone else before him so that's why i think that he's the best available option for a competitive fight. But i'd definitely not bet against your opinion as you are probably right.jezzamundo wrote:Jacobs is a big middleweight - 1.5" taller than GGG with 3" longer reach and likely a few lb heavier in the ring - and a skilled operator to boot. That said, I don't think he hits as hard as Lemieux and GGG was able to handle his punch - though Jacobs would likely land more frequently than Lemieux did. The biggest issue here is Jacobs' chin - I see this fight being an early to mid rounds KO win to GGG.caldo2025 wrote:Admittedly, i'm a GGG guy and think that he's the best that i've ever seen. But this is the matchup that i've been thinking could be the toughest fight out there for GGG. Jacobs is a true Middleweight with the reach and power that i think could hang with GGG. For some reason, I find this fight to be intriguing. I hope that they can work out the speed bumps and make it happen.
He never fought anybody close to that level again.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
Where do you guys come from?boxing_rocks wrote:He never fought anybody close to that level again.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
You mean Pirog? True, he never did.boxing_rocks wrote:He never fought anybody close to that level again.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
Who tested Jacobs ' chin though? Are there examples of him taking clean shots from solid hitters without being fazed? PQ is the only big puncher he faced, but he never got hit with anything serious.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
DJ has the size speed and skill to make a damn good fight with GGG, and has a recent win that dwarfs any win Golovkin has, and he did it in a single round. The chin factor is huge though, that is the biggest disparity between them. Because GGG's is iron, not many can compare to that. DJ certainly doesn't have a glass jaw or it'd have surfaced by now. That flash knockdown when he thought he had Mora hurt? hands down wide open, that was a mental mistake nothing more. He got up fine and beat the guy's ass. Unfortunately an injury robbed him of the knockout. The knockout we'll see soon when they fight again.
Jacobs would be the best opponent GGG has faced, and though I think Golovkin would win it'd be a competitive fight with a lot of action. It's a better match up than Brook, Wade, Monroe, Rubio, or whatever else we've been fed.
I think that you are likely correct. However, if Jacobs comes out to kill or be killed in round 1, he has an outside chance.crusader wrote:Who tested Jacobs ' chin though? Are there examples of him taking clean shots from solid hitters without being fazed? PQ is the only big puncher he faced, but he never got hit with anything serious.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
DJ has the size speed and skill to make a damn good fight with GGG, and has a recent win that dwarfs any win Golovkin has, and he did it in a single round. The chin factor is huge though, that is the biggest disparity between them. Because GGG's is iron, not many can compare to that. DJ certainly doesn't have a glass jaw or it'd have surfaced by now. That flash knockdown when he thought he had Mora hurt? hands down wide open, that was a mental mistake nothing more. He got up fine and beat the guy's ass. Unfortunately an injury robbed him of the knockout. The knockout we'll see soon when they fight again.
Jacobs would be the best opponent GGG has faced, and though I think Golovkin would win it'd be a competitive fight with a lot of action. It's a better match up than Brook, Wade, Monroe, Rubio, or whatever else we've been fed.
Aside from being flattened by average hitting Pirog, dropped by light hitting Mora, and rocked twice by blown up Smith, DJ was hurt/dropped several times in the amateurs. Hes improved and is one of the best out there at 160, but he's shown signs of a questionable chin for years and I think he'd get stopped quickly and heavily once GGG started landing.
If you follow the sport and can remember what you had for breakfast, then you would know that Pirog was ready to face GGG in 2012 on HBO.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
DJ has the size speed and skill to make a damn good fight with GGG, and has a recent win that dwarfs any win Golovkin has, and he did it in a single round. The chin factor is huge though, that is the biggest disparity between them. Because GGG's is iron, not many can compare to that. DJ certainly doesn't have a glass jaw or it'd have surfaced by now. That flash knockdown when he thought he had Mora hurt? hands down wide open, that was a mental mistake nothing more. He got up fine and beat the guy's ass. Unfortunately an injury robbed him of the knockout. The knockout we'll see soon when they fight again.
Jacobs would be the best opponent GGG has faced, and though I think Golovkin would win it'd be a competitive fight with a lot of action. It's a better match up than Brook, Wade, Monroe, Rubio, or whatever else we've been fed.
Quillin is NOT close to Pirog's level. He is somewhere between Rosado and Lee levels. His best win is N'Dam -- the one who was just humiliated in Olympics.BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Where do you guys come from?boxing_rocks wrote:He never fought anybody close to that level again.SFW wrote:Are we still dredging the basement with this Pirog nonsense? One perfectly placed shot can finish just about anyone, it's hardly a damning event. Jacobs had a bad night all around, and it cost him. Never came close to happening again, and he's clearly an improved fighter since. Pirog lol how eager was he to face Golovkin oh yeah not at all.
The type of guy who think Peter Quillin isn't close to Pirog's level?
Maybe from Gelendzhik.