Mick Conlan speaks out

[Supremo]

Just watched the fight. I think this has been blown out of proportion. Thought it was going to be a far bigger robbery than it was. Thought Conlan won the first clearly and dictated the pace and distance. Thought the second was close as was the 3rd by which time Conlan had started fighting the Russians fight.
Throughout the fight Conlan was hitting gloves a lot.

Seen worse decisions.

[coneye]

Basicly , A scoring punch is a EFFECTIVE punch landed on the scoring sites , , an EFFECTIVE punch , being a punch landed withe the KNUCKLE part of the glove and the weighgt of the shoulder behind it ,, a flurry landed on arms with the inside or palm of the glove is NOT a EFFECTIVE or SCORING punch ...

Bearing that in mind , watch it again with the sound off .. I watched it again and had it real close .. So i called in a proffesional , Missis know it all, MY WIFE , i asked her for an opinion she said ,, A DRAW ,, but forced to choose probably Conlan . .

[Redback Rasta]

It is little consolation for Conlan, but the AIBA top dog has since been removed >>>

http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2016-08-18/ ... ntroversy/?

The head of Olympic boxing's governing body, AIBA, has been "reassigned with immediate effect" in the wake of judging controversy which has blighted the Rio Games.

AIBA confirmed its executive director would move to a new role within the organisation.

The decision follows the expulsion of a number of judges, believed to total six, from the Games in light of a series of officiating issues, chiefly involving defeats for Kazakhstan heavyweight Vassiliy Levit and Ireland's Michael Conlan.

One of those officials who is believed to have been sent home is another Algerian, Kheira Sidi Yakoub, who both refereed the Conlan fight and scored the heavyweight final in favour of Russia's Evgeny Tishchenko.

[Supremo]

Anybody got a link for the tischenko fight?

[TerribleTerry]

Anybody got a link for the tischenko fight?

Can't find it online but watched it live and again from my TV hard drive and it's an absolutely stinking decision.

If anyone gets an online link please share as I would like to get other people's views on how bad it was.

It was 3-0 Levit for me - the worst robbery I have seen this Olympics and the fact that it came in a gold medal bout makes it all the more sickening

[manno]

The term 'robbery' is used far too much in boxing. I thought conlan was unlucky but it was competative.. and in a 3 rd fight if all the rds are hard fought then the judging becomes contious and subjective. Like I said conlan was unlucky but he knows bad decisions are part of boxing from ten yr old til you retire. To be honest he was prob goin pro afterwards woteva but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

[Londonirish]

To be honest he was prob goin pro afterwards

I know what you saying but he would of got a better Deal coming back with a medal..

but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

[Anzi]

The Russian after being given two ridiculous decisions to get through, might not be fit to fight against the American Shakur Stevenson due to cuts he received against Conlan ironically, what now AIBA ?

I think the Russian was cut by the Thai prior to facing Conlan....at least the big gash along the side of his head. Incidentally, watching both fights again I think the Thai was robbed about as badly.

Apparently Russia were guaranteed Medals, two bad decisions given to the same fighter, stinks.

[Anzi]

Remember this ? Got to be one of the worst. http://deadspin.com/5931226/was-this-di ... atch-fixed

That was truly embarrassing

more so, after the large donation in return for gold medals.

[bripez]

but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

His behaviour was not good - I can't see how his behaviour will help him to negotiate pro deals / sponsorship etc. - whether we like it or not the reality is that a loose cannon type who swears on live tv and acts in that way might find that companies are not queuing up for him to be associated with their brand

- not to mention tweeting a certain Russian gentleman was not a smart move .....

[Londonirish]

but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

His behaviour was not good - I can't see how his behaviour will help him to negotiate pro deals / sponsorship etc. - whether we like it or not the reality is that a loose cannon type who swears on live tv and acts in that way might find that companies are not queuing up for him to be associated with their brand

I agree But at the time that would be the last thing on his mind i would of lost the plot too and done exactly the same. Have been Robbed in a fight Bripez?

- not to mention tweeting a certain Russian gentleman was not a smart move .....

Did he?

[manno]

To be honest he was prob goin pro afterwards

I know what you saying but he would of got a better Deal coming back with a medal..

but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

To answer your question Martin I had 43 am(w34)... Robbed once, unlucky on a couple, never got to finals cos I wasn't good enuf. Had 17 (w9 L7 D1) was the home fighter 3times ...got robbed and also lost some close ones...also other kid was just too good.i have been coaching and matching kids who won't probably box to national champs and England boxersI never reached your or conlans heights but believe me I know that emptiness when you can't do no more and you've tanned the kid and they still give it him. I am an admirer of your posts Martin cos you generally have the fighters back but for me conlan was out of order rippin his vest off and gesticulating. Bad decisions are the absolute scourge of any fighter but they will always be I'm afraid

[Londonirish]

To be honest he was prob goin pro afterwards

I know what you saying but he would of got a better Deal coming back with a medal..

but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

To answer your question Martin I had 43 am(w34)... Robbed once, unlucky on a couple, never got to finals cos I wasn't good enuf. Had 17 (w9 L7 D1) was the home fighter 3times ...got robbed and also lost some close ones...also other kid was just too good.i have been coaching and matching kids who won't probably box to national champs and England boxersI never reached your or conlans heights but believe me I know that emptiness when you can't do no more and you've tanned the kid and they still give it him. I am an admirer of your posts Martin cos you generally have the fighters back but for me conlan was out of order rippin his vest off and gesticulating. Bad decisions are the absolute scourge of any fighter but they will always be I'm afraid

You had to do it the hard way Only being the home fighter a few times it's bad enough being robbed in a normal fight worse in a national fight but to be robbed in the Olympics is another stroy, the higher the Stake the bigger the more emotions there is imo he won the fight and no way could I have it to the Russian, I still stand by him and think if that's what he wanted to say he's done the right thing..

[jamesmcdonnell]

The term 'robbery' is used far too much in boxing. I thought conlan was unlucky but it was competative.. and in a 3 rd fight if all the rds are hard fought then the judging becomes contious and subjective. Like I said conlan was unlucky but he knows bad decisions are part of boxing from ten yr old til you retire. To be honest he was prob goin pro afterwards woteva but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

Yes, his frustration is understandable, but I think he got a wee bit carried away in the heat of the moment. Tweeting putin probably not a great idea.

I think he'll turn pro in quick order, reckon his card would be well and truly marked now as an amateur.

[manno]

Yeah your right, also no doubt his dad n coachs will have been drilling him about havin "to make sure' against the russian prior to the bout and I bet they are privy to alot more shenanigans then us watchin on tv.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Yeah your right, also no doubt his dad n coachs will have been drilling him about havin "to make sure' against the russian prior to the bout and I bet they are privy to alot more shenanigans then us watchin on tv.

Well, in one sense, if he's smart, and his promoters are, they'll use it to his advantage, "the man robbed of a golden opportunity" when he turns pro, every cloud has a single lining and all that.

[Supremo]

To be honest he was prob goin pro afterwards

I know what you saying but he would of got a better Deal coming back with a medal..

but I founf his behaviour after unsavoury just for the fact of how many schoolboys or young boxers might think its acceptable to show off like that

To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

To answer your question Martin I had 43 am(w34)... Robbed once, unlucky on a couple, never got to finals cos I wasn't good enuf. Had 17 (w9 L7 D1) was the home fighter 3times ...got robbed and also lost some close ones...also other kid was just too good.i have been coaching and matching kids who won't probably box to national champs and England boxersI never reached your or conlans heights but believe me I know that emptiness when you can't do no more and you've tanned the kid and they still give it him. I am an admirer of your posts Martin cos you generally have the fighters back but for me conlan was out of order rippin his vest off and gesticulating. Bad decisions are the absolute scourge of any fighter but they will always be I'm afraid

Every defeat I ever had (and there were many) were robberies .... Even the twice I got stopped!

[jamesmcdonnell]

I know what you saying but he would of got a better Deal coming back with a medal..




To reach the Olympics is amazing but to go out like that his dreams has been shattered...
Can I ask how many fights you've had? How many times you got robbed?

To answer your question Martin I had 43 am(w34)... Robbed once, unlucky on a couple, never got to finals cos I wasn't good enuf. Had 17 (w9 L7 D1) was the home fighter 3times ...got robbed and also lost some close ones...also other kid was just too good.i have been coaching and matching kids who won't probably box to national champs and England boxersI never reached your or conlans heights but believe me I know that emptiness when you can't do no more and you've tanned the kid and they still give it him. I am an admirer of your posts Martin cos you generally have the fighters back but for me conlan was out of order rippin his vest off and gesticulating. Bad decisions are the absolute scourge of any fighter but they will always be I'm afraid

Every defeat I ever had (and there were many) were robberies .... Even the twice I got stopped!

The worst kind, KO robberies!

[Supremo]

To answer your question Martin I had 43 am(w34)... Robbed once, unlucky on a couple, never got to finals cos I wasn't good enuf. Had 17 (w9 L7 D1) was the home fighter 3times ...got robbed and also lost some close ones...also other kid was just too good.i have been coaching and matching kids who won't probably box to national champs and England boxersI never reached your or conlans heights but believe me I know that emptiness when you can't do no more and you've tanned the kid and they still give it him. I am an admirer of your posts Martin cos you generally have the fighters back but for me conlan was out of order rippin his vest off and gesticulating. Bad decisions are the absolute scourge of any fighter but they will always be I'm afraid

Every defeat I ever had (and there were many) were robberies .... Even the twice I got stopped!

The worst kind, KO robberies!

If I'd been a Matchroom fighter they'd have let me continue!

[jamesmcdonnell]

Every defeat I ever had (and there were many) were robberies .... Even the twice I got stopped!

The worst kind, KO robberies!

If I'd been a Matchroom fighter they'd have let me continue!

They'd have counted your opponent out on his feet whilst you lay there comatose.

[Anzi]

It is little consolation for Conlan, but the AIBA top dog has since been removed >>>

http://www.itv.com/news/utv/2016-08-18/ ... ntroversy/?

The head of Olympic boxing's governing body, AIBA, has been "reassigned with immediate effect" in the wake of judging controversy which has blighted the Rio Games.

AIBA confirmed its executive director would move to a new role within the organisation.

The decision follows the expulsion of a number of judges, believed to total six, from the Games in light of a series of officiating issues, chiefly involving defeats for Kazakhstan heavyweight Vassiliy Levit and Ireland's Michael Conlan.

One of those officials who is believed to have been sent home is another Algerian, Kheira Sidi Yakoub, who both refereed the Conlan fight and scored the heavyweight final in favour of Russia's Evgeny Tishchenko.

I don't think the AIBA would send officials home, if they were close decisions or if was a case of a normal mistake, more to it then that.

[Anzi]

Teddy Atlas " AIBA is the most corrupt organisation in the world" https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 9880,d.d2s

[Anzi]

https://youtu.be/Pdox0hZajBI

[Redback Rasta]

Teddy Atlas " AIBA is the most corrupt organisation in the world" https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 9880,d.d2s

Hard to argue. But they do have a host of competitors for that title.

[Anzi]

Teddy Atlas " AIBA is the most corrupt organisation in the world" https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 9880,d.d2s

Hard to argue. But they do have a host of competitors for that title.

Every governing body has corruption within it's ranks, the UN and Nato are at the top of the tree, but the AIBA and FIFA are climbing up the list fast.