Is Danny's win good for British boxing?

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:24

Regardless of his former unbeaten record, we all knew Skelton wasn't that good. But is Danny's win a good thing for British boxing? I mean regardless that he has now beaten the two other British hopefuls, he has already failed at both European and World level. So what now?!

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:28

The "undefeated" never gets old so I think it's bad. Fighters are much more marketable when they have 0 losses.

Valuev Vs D.Williams would be similar to his fight vs Klitschko. Obviously Vitali is the much better boxer compared to Valuev.

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:30

Exactly. I expect Valuev to beat Danny, but then where does that leave the British heavyweight scene? Even worse off than it was before tonight.

TheFightGame · Post by **TheFightGame** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:31

I can't see Danny doing any better at a second title shot to be honest; but if he's beat the other two Brits hes got to deserve it.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:32

It's been the same 4 for a while now. Skelton, Williams, Harrison and Sprott. We need some prospects!!

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:32

Danny Williams is bad for British boxing. Period.

dve3333 · Post by **dve3333** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:33

Well at least Valuev is pure shite and the easiest target to aim at. He has never been in with a puncher in his entire career and I would boldly say Danny would do him

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:34

spam wrote:I can't see Danny doing any better at a second title shot to be honest; but if he's beat the other two Brits hes got to deserve it.

Yeah, he deserves it on those merits. But it isnt very encouraging.

rod riddle · Post by **rod riddle** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:35

Danny is finished - he just can't work hard enough. I'm up for 5 minute rounds. It's too easyto spoil a fight and win technically at the moment. But Wiimas was better technically. Skelton would be facing a DQ if he got that far in a world bout.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:35

the fight itself was good for british heavyweight boxing. i think the result was probably right and danny is better technically than valuev.
i thought skelton wasnt that bad, his uppercut caused williams problems and its nice to see a british fighter with so much will to win.
i'd like to see skelton carry on and get a rematch.

i feel silly saying it but this was a very good contest

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:35

lvlarc_uk wrote:It's been the same 4 for a while now. Skelton, Williams, Harrison and Sprott. We need some prospects!!

Yep, you're right, this really isnt much of a surprise. I guess the prospect of Danny fighting for the world title (one of them!) just sounds even less inticing than the unbeaten Skelton.

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:36

Skelton even though it was ugly won that fight, pure bullshit the decision.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:37

Razor wrote:Skelton even though it was ugly won that fight, pure bullshit the decision.

So, I am not the only one who thinks so?

JimmyJamJerusalem · Post by **JimmyJamJerusalem** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:43

Razor wrote:Skelton even though it was ugly won that fight, pure bullshit the decision.

Damn right!!!!! O'Conner wants shagging up the arse after that display!! Every time Skelton went on the offensive O'Conner split them. Ok alot of the time Skelton was crude going in, but on at least a dozen occasions Williams just turned away from shots, and O'Conner split them up, for no other reason than Williams looked in trouble. Terry O'Conner had an agenda tonight, that much was obvious!!!!!!!!!!! Disgusting!!. Williams LOST THAT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Williams KO'd Tyson, therefore he is marketable on the international scene. Far more marketable than Skelton. The result was manufactured for Fwank Warren to make optimum money. Skelton Won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am embarassed. It was almost like a Sven Ottke win in Germany.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:48

Quite forward with your views arnt you Jimmy

I cant say I disagree with anything you said though

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:51

ILikeBeer wrote:
Razor wrote:Skelton even though it was ugly won that fight, pure bullshit the decision.
So, I am not the only one who thinks so?

I agree fella's, was a close one but i felt Skelton won, it hurts me to say it but i feel Williams won cos he was the bigger name, maybe a load of bollocks but i think Skelton was Screwed tonight.

rod riddle · Post by **rod riddle** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:52

Be fair JJJ, O'Conner could have docked apoint or two in the early going. If it was world title in USA the ref would have.

I had Skelton winning over 12, but in a fight to the finish, Williams woud have KO'd Matt, regrdless of ITV BS. Danny aint no world champ anyway.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 25 Feb 2006, 19:58

Wasn't a bullshit decision.

I had it a draw 114 - 114 and you could a little argue for Skelton but he should of been deducted some points for all those fouls anyway so no arguements that it went to Danny from me.

I loved that bomb he threw and that cut Skeltons head though!

Jimmyjamjerusalem that is bullcrap he was VERY generous to Skelton not deducting a single point!

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:03

JimmyJamJerusalem wrote:
Razor wrote:Skelton even though it was ugly won that fight, pure bullshit the decision.
Damn right!!!!! O'Conner wants shagging up the arse after that display!! Every time Skelton went on the offensive O'Conner split them. Ok alot of the time Skelton was crude going in, but on at least a dozen occasions Williams just turned away from shots, and O'Conner split them up, for no other reason than Williams looked in trouble. Terry O'Conner had an agenda tonight, that much was obvious!!!!!!!!!!! Disgusting!!. Williams LOST THAT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Williams KO'd Tyson, therefore he is marketable on the international scene. Far more marketable than Skelton. The result was manufactured for Fwank Warren to make optimum money. Skelton Won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am embarassed. It was almost like the Joe Calzaghe win agasint Reid

You got it, man!!

PS: Ottke was a fine champ, Calzahge isn't even half that and never will be. It's just not in him.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:04

jeej wrote:Exactly. I expect Valuev to beat Danny, but then where does that leave the British heavyweight scene? Even worse off than it was before tonight.

What scene?

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:05

Same old zzzzzZZZZZZzzz

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:07

Yeah I think it is if Warren makes a rematch and doesn't run away from it. These 2 aren't gettting any younger.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:11

WayoftheCass wrote:Yeah I think it is if Warren makes a rematch and doesn't run away from it. These 2 aren't gettting any younger.

And the winner could fight Audley...and I'm being serious when I say that.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:12

My T Sharp wrote:
WayoftheCass wrote:Yeah I think it is if Warren makes a rematch and doesn't run away from it. These 2 aren't gettting any younger.
And the winner could fight Audley...and I'm being serious when I say that.

Screw Audley!

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 25 Feb 2006, 20:14

Max Molyneux wrote:
My T Sharp wrote:
WayoftheCass wrote:Yeah I think it is if Warren makes a rematch and doesn't run away from it. These 2 aren't gettting any younger.
And the winner could fight Audley...and I'm being serious when I say that.
Screw Audley!

and poor old Scott Gammer with all this rematch talk...Gammer will get his British title shot in the year 2013 :(