Midlands Area Small Hall Scene Thread

[Counter-puncher]

[quote="ste1983"]Bit of a debate on twitter going on at the moment with Eddie Hearn saying that Birmingham is probably the worst city for ticket sales via the box office (did say that is one of the best for sales through fighters).quote]


lol, anyone would think he's bothered his stubhub hookup doesn't pay off if the ticket sales are all through fighters

[Anzi]

Bit of a debate on twitter going on at the moment with Eddie Hearn saying that Birmingham is probably the worst city for ticket sales via the box office (did say that is one of the best for sales through fighters). He said he thought of bringing Quigg/Frampton to Brum at one point but didn't feel it (shame would have saved me on hotel etc).

I'd argue Hearn/Matchroom didn't exactly help themselves the first show here was one of the worst I've ever been too (and that includes 3 fight dinner cards) the other 2 were decent (but nothing special, Gavin pulling out of the Eggington fight didn't help).

Seems to suggest there are still a decent amount of people in and around the Midlands happy to follow their mates/specific fighters but not so many general boxing fans. I'd tend to agree with that the feel I get from shows both small hall and bigger are that most people are their to watch one specific fighter rather than being boxing fans in general.

Whats everyone's thoughts? Is there the demand for big arena shows in the Midlands? Frank puts on shows in and around the area but tends to stick to small scale shows at places like the Civic. Eddie has put a 3 arena shows on now (4th due in October) but all 3 have had reduced capacity's (half hall upper tiers curtained off etc).

The reason Birmingham does not have lot of big Arena shows is down to two main things ? Crowd trouble and not enough big name fighters coming through in the area and if any do come through, they move to other cities or go abroad as Mathew Macklin did.

[ste1983]

Bit of a debate on twitter going on at the moment with Eddie Hearn saying that Birmingham is probably the worst city for ticket sales via the box office (did say that is one of the best for sales through fighters). He said he thought of bringing Quigg/Frampton to Brum at one point but didn't feel it (shame would have saved me on hotel etc).

I'd argue Hearn/Matchroom didn't exactly help themselves the first show here was one of the worst I've ever been too (and that includes 3 fight dinner cards) the other 2 were decent (but nothing special, Gavin pulling out of the Eggington fight didn't help).

Seems to suggest there are still a decent amount of people in and around the Midlands happy to follow their mates/specific fighters but not so many general boxing fans. I'd tend to agree with that the feel I get from shows both small hall and bigger are that most people are their to watch one specific fighter rather than being boxing fans in general.

Whats everyone's thoughts? Is there the demand for big arena shows in the Midlands? Frank puts on shows in and around the area but tends to stick to small scale shows at places like the Civic. Eddie has put a 3 arena shows on now (4th due in October) but all 3 have had reduced capacity's (half hall upper tiers curtained off etc).

The reason Birmingham does not have lot of big Arena shows is down to two main things ? Crowd trouble and not enough big name fighters coming through in the area and if any do come through, they move to other cities or go abroad as Mathew Macklin did.

Kal Yafai? Hopefully they get the world title fight on the October show.

Not so sure with the crowd trouble know there was that trouble with Blues and Salford lads but that was back in the 90's. I've been to the last few arena shows in Brum and can't remember seeing one bit of trouble. Liverpool and Manchester get plenty of big shows and there's been trouble at both those arenas on numerous occasions (granted nothing on a large scale).

[Anzi]

Bit of a debate on twitter going on at the moment with Eddie Hearn saying that Birmingham is probably the worst city for ticket sales via the box office (did say that is one of the best for sales through fighters). He said he thought of bringing Quigg/Frampton to Brum at one point but didn't feel it (shame would have saved me on hotel etc).

I'd argue Hearn/Matchroom didn't exactly help themselves the first show here was one of the worst I've ever been too (and that includes 3 fight dinner cards) the other 2 were decent (but nothing special, Gavin pulling out of the Eggington fight didn't help).

Seems to suggest there are still a decent amount of people in and around the Midlands happy to follow their mates/specific fighters but not so many general boxing fans. I'd tend to agree with that the feel I get from shows both small hall and bigger are that most people are their to watch one specific fighter rather than being boxing fans in general.

Whats everyone's thoughts? Is there the demand for big arena shows in the Midlands? Frank puts on shows in and around the area but tends to stick to small scale shows at places like the Civic. Eddie has put a 3 arena shows on now (4th due in October) but all 3 have had reduced capacity's (half hall upper tiers curtained off etc).

The reason Birmingham does not have lot of big Arena shows is down to two main things ? Crowd trouble and not enough big name fighters coming through in the area and if any do come through, they move to other cities or go abroad as Mathew Macklin did.

Kal Yafai? Hopefully they get the world title fight on the October show.

Not so sure with the crowd trouble know there was that trouble with Blues and Salford lads but that was back in the 90's. I've been to the last few arena shows in Brum and can't remember seeing one bit of trouble. Liverpool and Manchester get plenty of big shows and there's been trouble at both those arenas on numerous occasions (granted nothing on a large scale).

In London, Manchester and Liverpool, they have more high level fighters then Birmingham to make a top class show and Kal is a superfly, not an attractive division, like the heavier weight divisions. allegedly's last big show was in Birmingham in September 2010, the Cleverley v Murat fight, there was trouble between Birmingham fans and welsh fans, after that show, Warren said he would not do a big show there again. Though Matchroom have been coming to Birmingham, a lot depends on the Yafai's and Sam Eggington. It would be great if we get a world title in Birmingham, instead of it being on the undercard of Joshua in London.

[ste1983]

Wolverhampton 2-0 welterweight Sid Bowater has signed with Kellie Maloney.

I know Maloney also looks after (or did) Tony Jones from Telford, possibility of Maloney putting on shows in the Midlands? I'd expect for now to see him/her continue working with Tommy Owens though as has done previously.

[maley1984]

Wolverhampton 2-0 welterweight Sid Bowater has signed with Kellie Maloney.

I know Maloney also looks after (or did) Tony Jones from Telford, possibility of Maloney putting on shows in the Midlands? I'd expect for now to see him/her continue working with Tommy Owens though as has done previously.

Saw that myself. Seen both his fights wasn't overly impressed. His brother looked better. Also both seem to have been scheduled to box a few times but have pulled out. From memory he sold a fair few tickets.

[ste1983]

Wolverhampton 2-0 welterweight Sid Bowater has signed with Kellie Maloney.

I know Maloney also looks after (or did) Tony Jones from Telford, possibility of Maloney putting on shows in the Midlands? I'd expect for now to see him/her continue working with Tommy Owens though as has done previously.

Saw that myself. Seen both his fights wasn't overly impressed. His brother looked better. Also both seem to have been scheduled to box a few times but have pulled out. From memory he sold a fair few tickets.

Yeah a lot of lads I know from over his way went to the last one (I couldn't make that one) who wouldn't usually go to boxing. I've only seen his debut hard to judge on that. Yeah I know his brother has been pulled off a few bills had injury problems amongst other things.

[maley1984]

Wolverhampton 2-0 welterweight Sid Bowater has signed with Kellie Maloney.

I know Maloney also looks after (or did) Tony Jones from Telford, possibility of Maloney putting on shows in the Midlands? I'd expect for now to see him/her continue working with Tommy Owens though as has done previously.

Saw that myself. Seen both his fights wasn't overly impressed. His brother looked better. Also both seem to have been scheduled to box a few times but have pulled out. From memory he sold a fair few tickets.

Yeah a lot of lads I know from over his way went to the last one (I couldn't make that one) who wouldn't usually go to boxing. I've only seen his debut hard to judge on that. Yeah I know his brother has been pulled off a few bills had injury problems amongst other things.

Just looked at 2 walsall bills no opponents announced on one and 2 on the other and 1 being top of the bill. Poor

[ste1983]

Saw that myself. Seen both his fights wasn't overly impressed. His brother looked better. Also both seem to have been scheduled to box a few times but have pulled out. From memory he sold a fair few tickets.

Yeah a lot of lads I know from over his way went to the last one (I couldn't make that one) who wouldn't usually go to boxing. I've only seen his debut hard to judge on that. Yeah I know his brother has been pulled off a few bills had injury problems amongst other things.

Just looked at 2 walsall bills no opponents announced on one and 2 on the other and 1 being top of the bill. Poor

Yeah I've just asked on facebook re opponents for the 2nd September show (think you've just liked it ha). Read the article and Clarke seems to be talking about the fight as a keep busy type fight so with that top of the bill doesn't look like it'll be a great card.

[maley1984]

Yeah a lot of lads I know from over his way went to the last one (I couldn't make that one) who wouldn't usually go to boxing. I've only seen his debut hard to judge on that. Yeah I know his brother has been pulled off a few bills had injury problems amongst other things.

Just looked at 2 walsall bills no opponents announced on one and 2 on the other and 1 being top of the bill. Poor

Yeah I've just asked on facebook re opponents for the 2nd September show (think you've just liked it ha). Read the article and Clarke seems to be talking about the fight as a keep busy type fight so with that top of the bill doesn't look like it'll be a great card.

Yeah i did. Keep seeing this articles and as a local fan it frustrating. He sud have stepped up 2-3fights ago. It certainly sudnt b top of the bill. Errol has put some cracking nights over the years but last 12 months not many of his shows have appealed to me.

[ste1983]

Just looked at 2 walsall bills no opponents announced on one and 2 on the other and 1 being top of the bill. Poor

Yeah I've just asked on facebook re opponents for the 2nd September show (think you've just liked it ha). Read the article and Clarke seems to be talking about the fight as a keep busy type fight so with that top of the bill doesn't look like it'll be a great card.

Yeah i did. Keep seeing this articles and as a local fan it frustrating. He sud have stepped up 2-3fights ago. It certainly sudnt b top of the bill. Errol has put some cracking nights over the years but last 12 months not many of his shows have appealed to me.

Nah agree, really good trainer and boxing man but since he started promoting seperatly (not with PJ) think the shows more often than not are poor prospect v TBA affairs.

[maley1984]

Yeah I've just asked on facebook re opponents for the 2nd September show (think you've just liked it ha). Read the article and Clarke seems to be talking about the fight as a keep busy type fight so with that top of the bill doesn't look like it'll be a great card.

Yeah i did. Keep seeing this articles and as a local fan it frustrating. He sud have stepped up 2-3fights ago. It certainly sudnt b top of the bill. Errol has put some cracking nights over the years but last 12 months not many of his shows have appealed to me.

Nah agree, really good trainer and boxing man but since he started promoting seperatly (not with PJ) think the shows more often than not are poor prospect v TBA affairs.

Spot on mate. Him and pj put some great shows on. Crunch time at lunchtime shows at civic. Where normally 2 evenly matched fights with the prospects on .

[ste1983]

Yeah i did. Keep seeing this articles and as a local fan it frustrating. He sud have stepped up 2-3fights ago. It certainly sudnt b top of the bill. Errol has put some cracking nights over the years but last 12 months not many of his shows have appealed to me.

Nah agree, really good trainer and boxing man but since he started promoting seperatly (not with PJ) think the shows more often than not are poor prospect v TBA affairs.

Spot on mate. Him and pj put some great shows on. Crunch time at lunchtime shows at civic. Where normally 2 evenly matched fights with the prospects on .

Crunchtime at Lunchtime, them Sunday afternoon shows were quality! Saville/Carey & Harrison/Lawler etc

[maley1984]

Nah agree, really good trainer and boxing man but since he started promoting seperatly (not with PJ) think the shows more often than not are poor prospect v TBA affairs.

Spot on mate. Him and pj put some great shows on. Crunch time at lunchtime shows at civic. Where normally 2 evenly matched fights with the prospects on .

Crunchtime at Lunchtime, them Sunday afternoon shows were quality! Saville/Carey & Harrison/Lawler etc

Yeah quality our kid boxed on them. Topping one. 3 masters title fights Chris v Richards( both unbeaten) Gordon v ghent downing v gggrrhhh a Coventry lad Sean something.

Saville v Carey was awesome fight.

Looking at Fb looks like Manny Zaber v Byfield won't b happening

[ste1983]

Hatton show in Stoke 8th Oct looks a good one!

Nathan Gorman v David Howe (Central Area title) and Craig Morris v Nathan McIntosh (Midlands Area title)

[maley1984]

Hatton show in Stoke 8th Oct looks a good one!

Nathan Gorman v David Howe (Central Area title) and Craig Morris v Nathan McIntosh (Midlands Area title)

Also a challenge title fight as well Chris addaway v kieron macclearn.

Good depth the card like we were discussing earlier

[The Insider]

Hatton show in Stoke 8th Oct looks a good one!

Nathan Gorman v David Howe (Central Area title) and Craig Morris v Nathan McIntosh (Midlands Area title)

It's on the 1st mate. In conjunction with Black Country Boxing I believe.

[ste1983]

Hatton show in Stoke 8th Oct looks a good one!

Nathan Gorman v David Howe (Central Area title) and Craig Morris v Nathan McIntosh (Midlands Area title)

It's on the 1st mate. In conjunction with Black Country Boxing I believe.

sorry yeah its the 1st (edited) I quite fancy going up to that.

[ste1983]

Hatton show in Stoke 8th Oct looks a good one!

Nathan Gorman v David Howe (Central Area title) and Craig Morris v Nathan McIntosh (Midlands Area title)

Also a challenge title fight as well Chris addaway v kieron macclearn.

Good depth the card like we were discussing earlier

Yeah agree deep card, its a shame they couldn't have put the Morris/Mcintosh fight on the Bescot show (both Hatton/Black Country Boxing shows). Closer for both sets of fans than Stoke so wouldn't have effected ticket sales.

[Cazelo]

Yeah looks a good show run by Hatton. Interesting to see him branch in to the Midlands. Crazy to think that many of hearns top boys were signed to Hatton at one point.

The Midlands is a sleeping giant in boxing terms. I think it's about to pick up again. some local Notingham managers seem to be signing a fair few talents

[maley1984]

Yeah looks a good show run by Hatton. Interesting to see him branch in to the Midlands. Crazy to think that many of hearns top boys were signed to Hatton at one point.

The Midlands is a sleeping giant in boxing terms. I think it's about to pick up again. some local Notingham managers seem to be signing a fair few talents

Hatton has been co promoting with Errol Johnson for quite a while. Shows r normally walsall footy ground or town hall.

[ste1983]

few shows in the region this coming weekend

Simon Barclay returns to action (after his first career loss) in Northampton on Friday night. Show also features Razza Hamza.

Paul Holt and Louis fielding clash for the Midlands Area Super Featherweight title at Walsall Town Hall on Saturday night.

There's MGM Birmingham's second show in Solihull on Saturday night. Although it looks another poor 5 fight v TBA card.

[maley1984]

few shows in the region this coming weekend

Simon Barclay returns to action (after his first career loss) in Northampton on Friday night. Show also features Razza Hamza.

Paul Holt and Louis fielding clash for the Midlands Area Super Featherweight title at Walsall Town Hall on Saturday night.

There's MGM Birmingham's second show in Solihull on Saturday night. Although it looks another poor 5 fight v TBA card.

Not very appealing all the shows u mention. Only 2 opponents listed on walsall show and one is top the bill

[ste1983]

few shows in the region this coming weekend

Simon Barclay returns to action (after his first career loss) in Northampton on Friday night. Show also features Razza Hamza.

Paul Holt and Louis fielding clash for the Midlands Area Super Featherweight title at Walsall Town Hall on Saturday night.

There's MGM Birmingham's second show in Solihull on Saturday night. Although it looks another poor 5 fight v TBA card.

Not very appealing all the shows u mention. Only 2 opponents listed on walsall show and one is top the bill

Yeah not the best is it was thinking of doing Walsall but to be honest think I'd rather stay in and watch Crolla/Linares Ovil/Huck on the telly.

I'd have probably gone to the Walsall show if it was the Friday instead but none of the others interest me.

[maley1984]

few shows in the region this coming weekend

Simon Barclay returns to action (after his first career loss) in Northampton on Friday night. Show also features Razza Hamza.

Paul Holt and Louis fielding clash for the Midlands Area Super Featherweight title at Walsall Town Hall on Saturday night.

There's MGM Birmingham's second show in Solihull on Saturday night. Although it looks another poor 5 fight v TBA card.

Not very appealing all the shows u mention. Only 2 opponents listed on walsall show and one is top the bill

Yeah not the best is it was thinking of doing Walsall but to be honest think I'd rather stay in and watch Crolla/Linares Ovil/Huck on the telly.

I'd have probably gone to the Walsall show if it was the Friday instead but none of the others interest me.

Exactly what I was thinking. U going eggington v gavin